UAW is not asking for a 40% raise!

[Johnny2X2X]

The media is reporting it like they want an immediate 40% raise. It’s 40% over 4 years, about 8% a year.

And the automakers aren’t offering a 20% raise immediately. It’s over 4-1/2 years, about 4% a year.

The media reporting the raise over time are doing the corporations’ bidding. It’s 8% vs 4%. The unions sacrificed a ton to save the auto industry, their current demands still put them way behind where they’d have been if they hadn’t have given up so much.

[senseandsensibility]

1. Thank you for pointing this out

I was a bit taken aback, but I listened carefully and realized that it as you say. Big difference. How many people just listen casually and think it's 40% all at once. Makes the union look greedy, which I believe most of the corporate media is fine with.

[Johnny2X2X]

3. It's everywhere.

The corporate media hates working people. The 40% number should have never been reported, it’s just what the automakers released to take control of the narrative.

[DENVERPOPS]

21. The U.S. Media

is 95+% owned and operated by the Uber Rich Republicans.........What do you expect them to report?????????

One of the first things Hitler did was take control of the German Press/Media.........

[hadEnuf]

27. Abso-fricken-lutely.

And we've sat there and watched it. The only attempt I remember was Air America and then it was sabotaged from within. After that attempt nothing was tried. And here we now are.

[elleng]

2. doing the corporations' bidding, and I'm TIRED of it.

[Diamond_Dog]

4. K and R

[Rebl2]

5. Very confused

Thought corporates offered 20% each year for next for years. Must not have listened carefully to news report.

[jimfields33]

7. They did offer 20 percent but was turned down.

I think even harder is the 32 hour weeks.

[MichMan]

9. 40 hours pay for a 32 week would be an immediate 20% raise by itself

Car companies would also lose 20% of production

[Rebl2]

14. Do you mean

32 hour week or four day work week?

[MichMan]

25. UAW wants 32 hour work week in 4 days

4 days at 8 hrs per day & still paid for 40 hours.

That would be an immediate 20% wage increase. I believe the 40% number would be on top of that

[Johnny2X2X]

15. Productivity would increase

This is a great idea and would benefit everyone.

Right now UAW workers are working 50-60 hours to make ends meet. 4 day work week is long overdue and increases productivity significantly.

[MichMan]

26. Assembly lines can make more cars in 4 days than they can in 5?

Line speed remains the same. Doesn't seem possible. Can't see the company ever agreeing to that.

[Johnny2X2X]

8. Nope

They’re offering 20% over 4-1/2 years. It’s 4% a year barely over current inflation.

[marble falls]

6. With inflation since their last raise, they'll be back to where they were last contract ...

The CEO's wages increased something like 300%.

[Johnny2X2X]

10. Yes!

People don’t even realize how much the UAW gave up to save the auto industry 15 years ago. All while execs saw massive raises.

The UAW is asking for less than they gave up back. I support them! Workers deserve a fair share of the wealth their labor creates. Autoworkers set the standard for the middle class that Biden is trying to rebuild.

[70sEraVet]

16. I appreciate the info!

In the company i retired from (non-union), we took hard pay cuts when the company was going through tough times. Years later, the company was doing well -- we NEVER regained our previous wages!

[leighbythesea2]

23. Few weeks ago, excellent video explanation on DU

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017857221

From Texastowelie

[Emile]

11. K&R

[JohnnyRingo]

12. The press exaggerates how much they earn as well.

I'm a union retiree, and every contract year the press always added our health care benefits into the hourly wage. None of us were earning $45 an hour.

[Johnny2X2X]

13. Exactly!

Notice that too. No one else’s has their salaries reported as total compensation value.

How come no one mentions the 400% increase in productivity?

[JohnnyRingo]

18. When they state how much a CEO is getting paid....

....the don't add in the limo service, the company jet he uses, or the townhouse where he entertains Thai hookers.

[Midnight Writer]

17. How about pegging the worker's pay to the pay of the top executives?

If the CEO and top brass get a 10% increase, the workers get a 10% increase, or a percentage increase contractually agreed upon.

[Emile]

19. I never liked % raises. Very unfair.

[moondust]

20. Swiss had a referendum on a version of that in 2013.

Swiss 1:12 Initiative: Top pay in a company limited to no more than 12 times that of bottom pay. Would keep top pay and bottom pay connected no matter the size of the company and would remove the incentive to reward shareholders at the expense of workers. If enacted decades ago it would have reined in massive inequality.

Swiss referendum failed I suspect because executives threatened to move their companies, jobs, and taxes elsewhere.

Switzerland votes against cap on executive pay

[DENVERPOPS]

22. the same media

that published the UPS drivers made 170K.............Total Bullshit............

[moniss]

24. Bad corporate behavior is routinely protected by the major media

and we only have to look at the recent sudden shutdown and bankruptcy of Yellow as an example. Now we find out that they brass paid themselves millions in "bonuses" right before the end. Since the Feds had a big stake in Yellow you would think that doing the equivalent of walking into the Treasury with a baseball bat and walking out with millions would actually get substantial coverage but instead it is a whisper because they think it's more important that somebody may have lied on a form for buying a gun.

[Johnny2X2X]

29. A reminder

63% of the households in the US would not be able to come up with $400 cash for an amergency. The reason for that is they've pitted the working class against one another. Working people are trained to support a race to the bottom now rather than support union workers setting the standard that raises pay across the board.