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DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 10:17 AM Sep 2023

Student tragically dies after eating leftover pasta

A 20-year-old student from Belgium sadly lost his life after eating leftover pasta – and social media users are only just learning about the horrifying incident.

In 2008, a man only known as AJ, was poisoned after eating spaghetti he left on the counter for five days at room temperature. He added fresh tomato sauce to the pasta before reheating and eating it.

The Journal of Clinical Microbiology reported that the student became sick around 30 minutes after consuming the dish when he suffered from headaches, abdominal pain, and nausea.

When he arrived at the hospital, AJ was vomiting for several hours with bouts of diarrhoea. Sadly, he died the following day around 10 hours after eating the leftover pasta.

They later found that the pasta was contaminated with Bacillus cereus, a toxin caused by contaminated food.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/student-tragically-dies-after-eating-leftover-pasta/ar-AA1gFmvt

Who leaves pasta with sauce out for a week?
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Student tragically dies after eating leftover pasta (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2023 OP
"Hard to believe, Harry" PCIntern Sep 2023 #1
one of my favorite expressions. NoRethugFriends Sep 2023 #8
:) Reminds me that my husband, who somehow managed Hortensis Sep 2023 #16
There was another... 2naSalit Sep 2023 #2
I find pasta usually tastes better the next day JI7 Sep 2023 #10
I had leftover pesto pasta yesterday Sky Jewels Sep 2023 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Sep 2023 #14
I never eat any meat at all. Sky Jewels Sep 2023 #18
Lasagna is the exception. haele Sep 2023 #15
Was the issue there that he left it in the pan? ok_cpu Sep 2023 #23
From what I recall... 2naSalit Sep 2023 #28
I've eaten leftover spaghetti and casserole for several days. No problem. LiberalFighter Sep 2023 #24
Same here... 2naSalit Sep 2023 #29
I think it can happen with rice too Ritabert Sep 2023 #3
I read that rice shouldn't sit out at room temperature for more than an hour. madaboutharry Sep 2023 #5
What if they heat the rice before eating it ? JI7 Sep 2023 #7
That might kill some bacteria, but leaves most of the toxins they have already produced. eppur_se_muova Sep 2023 #21
If pasta is prologue, this will happen again. Beakybird Sep 2023 #4
Jokes are for non-serious matters BWdem4life Sep 2023 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Sep 2023 #6
+1 leftstreet Sep 2023 #9
I thought this one sounded familiar. BWdem4life Sep 2023 #13
I think that was the one... 2naSalit Sep 2023 #30
Someone who is anti-pasta. Sneederbunk Sep 2023 #17
Who leaves pasta with sauce out for a week? intheflow Sep 2023 #19
I know. That story made me want to hurl. The moral of the story ms liberty Sep 2023 #20
From the CDC: eppur_se_muova Sep 2023 #22
Left over and left out for 5 days. Jim__ Sep 2023 #25
sometimes the FSM reaches out his noodly appendage and brings a meatball home Blues Heron Sep 2023 #26
This sounds like a ChubbyEmu video Sympthsical Sep 2023 #27

PCIntern

(28,366 posts)
1. "Hard to believe, Harry"
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 10:21 AM
Sep 2023

(you have to be a Philadelphian to understand that expression. For decades, Richie Ashburn used to say that to Harry Kalas on Phillies games when something weird or unusual would happen during the game.)

Who would think that eating leftover food left for five days on the counter could possibly be bad for you?

just in case.

NoRethugFriends

(3,752 posts)
8. one of my favorite expressions.
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 10:54 AM
Sep 2023

From back when the Phillies had good TV announcers rather than the current clowns, Ruben amaro excepted.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. :) Reminds me that my husband, who somehow managed
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 11:27 AM
Sep 2023

to get through both HS and college without even one microscope class, at 83 somehow still doesn't really seem to believe -- in his gut -- that food bacteria are real even in our kitchen.

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
2. There was another...
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 10:21 AM
Sep 2023

A few years ago who ate pasta he made days prior and kept in the fridge. I think it's that they waited more than 24 hours. You should eat what you make in the initial serving or discard the rest. Leftover pasta is never a great thing after the next day. Sauce, sure, but not with the pasta or pasta by itself.

Response to Sky Jewels (Reply #11)

haele

(15,399 posts)
15. Lasagna is the exception.
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 11:25 AM
Sep 2023

Bake it the day before, put in the fridge overnight, reheat and serve the next day.

Actually, the problem with leftover pasta is in the sauce and fillings other than the pasta, especially any veggies that are in the fillings. If not thoroughly cooked up to the correct heat, bacteria forms very quickly on tomato sauce and any veggies - people typically are more concerned about getting meat to the correct temperature than they are squashes, tomatoes, or mushrooms.

Mac and Cheese or Butter Noodles in the fridge never seems to be a problem until a week passes.

As it is, I will freeze leftover pasta dishes if I don't think I'm going to eat it all the next day. Mom says that's what they taught in Home Ec. back in her day. Fridge for day 1, Freezer in foil after that.

Haele

ok_cpu

(2,242 posts)
23. Was the issue there that he left it in the pan?
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 12:29 PM
Sep 2023

Rather than transferring to another dish? My mom always told me not to store leftovers in the pan for that reason. Could have been an old myth.

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
28. From what I recall...
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 04:24 PM
Sep 2023

He stored it in a different dish and practiced food safety except for waiting to eat it.

Personally, I have let pasta dishes go two days in the fridge but it's food for the compost or disposal after that.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
24. I've eaten leftover spaghetti and casserole for several days. No problem.
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 12:35 PM
Sep 2023

But I also refrigerate and keep it covered.

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
29. Same here...
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 04:27 PM
Sep 2023

But I am more skeptical after the first 24hrs.

After taking mandatory food safety classes when I started working in commercial kitchens, I'm more diligent about some things, like short term storage, than I was. And I must admit I have experienced food poisoning a good half dozen times, once or twice I did it all by myself so I pay attention to that sort of thing. I'm too old for vomiting events anymore, they're really rough on me and take days to recover from afterwards.

Ritabert

(2,446 posts)
3. I think it can happen with rice too
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 10:24 AM
Sep 2023

Some guy died after eating rice that had been sitting out in the kitchen of a restaurant. I try to make just enough for one meal.

madaboutharry

(42,033 posts)
5. I read that rice shouldn't sit out at room temperature for more than an hour.
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 10:37 AM
Sep 2023

It can be kept warm in a rice cooker for a couple of hours or else must be refrigerated.

JI7

(93,616 posts)
7. What if they heat the rice before eating it ?
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 10:54 AM
Sep 2023

I think I have had rice like this many times. But it was made on the same day I ate it .

eppur_se_muova

(41,941 posts)
21. That might kill some bacteria, but leaves most of the toxins they have already produced.
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 12:25 PM
Sep 2023

That's what happened to the guy who suffered multiple amputations after eating leftovers that were refrigerated only after standing out on the counter for hours.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2022/02/22/leftover-food-disease-amputated-legs-fingers/6890754001/

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

BWdem4life

(3,003 posts)
13. I thought this one sounded familiar.
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 11:19 AM
Sep 2023

Didn't he try to save time by making himself a whole bunch of pre-made meals?

I do the same with pre-made snacks, but they are made of seeds and dried fruits - which do not spoil quickly.

I felt for him, even though at that age he should have probably known the food would go bad.

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
30. I think that was the one...
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 04:31 PM
Sep 2023

I had mentioned, he stored it properly but the time frame was too long. I think he was a student.

I didn't know that about pasta, I just knew that you didn't make more than you needed in a day, even in a restaurant. I wasn't clear on why.

intheflow

(30,179 posts)
19. Who leaves pasta with sauce out for a week?
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 11:50 AM
Sep 2023

20 year old in their first apartment after a parent did all the cooking and cleaning growing for him growing up.

ms liberty

(11,237 posts)
20. I know. That story made me want to hurl. The moral of the story
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 12:00 PM
Sep 2023

For the idiots in the cheap seats, is:
Container and refrigerate your food ASAP upon finishing your meal.
Only reheat what you're going to eat at that sitting, and leave the rest refrigerated.
Throw out remainder in a timely fashion. The number of days to keep something varies for different foods. I'm pretty picky, but I love leftovers, so I almost never have anything to throw out. I toss after 3 to 4 days.

Those are rules I've known practically my whole life. It seems impossible someone did not know any of these things. When I read that story, my first thought was how could someone chew and swallow that, it must have tasted horrible. Blech. Ugh. Ick.

eppur_se_muova

(41,941 posts)
22. From the CDC:
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 12:28 PM
Sep 2023
Prevention

If food is to be stored longer than two hours, keep hot foods hot (over 140°F) and cold foods cold (40°F or under)
Store cooked food in a wide, shallow container and refrigerate as soon as possible.

https://www.foodsafety.gov/food-poisoning/bacteria-and-viruses#bacillus-cereus

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
27. This sounds like a ChubbyEmu video
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 12:55 PM
Sep 2023

He does food ones sometimes, like the five day old sushi one.

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