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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm not an alarmist
But if you, like me, are a member of the semitic tribe of Jews do not take Motherfucker's 'words' spewed on Rosh Hashanah lightly. I'm going to say something inflammatory now.
This motherfucker would stick us in ovens if given the chance just like his idol, der Fuhrer
Arm yourselves; get trained; become tough Jews; go to indoor and outdoor ranges in groups and practice as if your lives and the lives of your loved ones depend on it; hit the fucking gym in groups or build a home one and invite others over.
When the knock on the door happens be prepared.
FalloutShelter
(14,466 posts)What is playing out in the US now has many echoes of Weimar Germany.
Wake up, America.
EYESORE 9001
(29,732 posts)If it comes down to it, I will fight alongside those being oppressed. I am old and would be more of a liability than an asset in battle, but if I take down just one nazi bastard, itd be worthwhile.
Attilatheblond
(8,878 posts)It's not like all of us have bright futures ahead of us. I know I am willing to go down fighting to defend the oppressed, including Jews or women who want to control their own bodies, should it come to the 'civil war' too many right wing pols keep mentioning in hopes of getting votes. Those political hacks, those hired hands of the Super Rich Exploiters Class, just don't realize how dangerous their rhetoric is to the civil order.
EYESORE 9001
(29,732 posts)Might as well go down swinging.
Attilatheblond
(8,878 posts)They have this illusion that liberals won't fight when needed. Lived in a small town where a few of the men would cross over to the other side of the street when I was about, after finding out that some liberals own firearms too.
Aviation Pro
(15,578 posts)Many former brothers-in-arms have gone to Motherfucker's side and brought their training with them. One of the images that I was screaming at during J6 was Calico Jack patches on their plate carriers.
I know what unit uses them and so do a lot of other vets here.
Attilatheblond
(8,878 posts)Some combat trained (and maybe even fit) veterans on the far right. But the blowhards who train at Dunkin Donuts & Mickey Ds don't know anything about the vets and others on the left.
The Whataburger Brigade actually think they can stand against the US military and are itching for an actual shootin war cuz 'own the libs'. Makes us aware of the need for mental health care.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,512 posts)Anybody can buy and wear those patches. Wearing that patch doesn't mean to them what it means to you.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Calico+Jack+patches&crid=1UP346QWF9ML9&sprefix=calico+jack+patches%2Caps%2C312&ref=nb_sb_noss
Joinfortmill
(21,165 posts)Aviation Pro
(15,578 posts)"Hope is never a method."
Delphinus
(12,522 posts)Just have to look at climate change to see where hope has gotten us.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)So alarmist seems about the right word.
Disaffected
(6,403 posts)bluestarone
(22,179 posts)I WILL be there as well!
magicarpet
(18,511 posts)... brought daily to the public square by the Orange Menace. He wants his mercenary militia goon squads to actively seek violence against those who refuse to blindly support the Mango tinted silent Coup d'etat.
yardwork
(69,364 posts)America is going through another populist upheaval and everybody who is perceived as different from white Christian Protestant straight cis males and their loyal wives are a target.
That means everybody else: Jews, Muslims, Hindus, probably Catholics, gays, Blacks, Hispanics (many of whom think they're safe but they're not really, I know how these mean white people think, I grew up among them), anybody who identifies anywhere on the LGBTQI continuum (and, message to my fellow gays and lesbians, no we won't be safe if we throw the Ts overboard, we'll just be morally contemptible and the Trumpsters will still hate us). Also: unmarried women, employed women, pregnant women, women on birth control, women with degrees - basically all women who aren't living as Trumpsters think they should are at risk. Definitely atheists. Pagans. Urban dwellers. Anybody who seems woke.
Don't believe it can happen? Read history.
Hotler
(13,747 posts)if the fascist take power. They're itching to openly kill Dems and Libs. I suggest stocking up on supplies also. If they take power the Constitution will be suspended, martial law will be issued. Grocery store shelves will empty fast.
https://theliberalgunclub.com/
Go here for training classes.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Good group of folks.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)Lady Freedom Returns
(14,198 posts)Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)...but there are chapters for every state. Membership also includes access to forums and a discord server to link up with other members.
70sEraVet
(5,482 posts)it would bring up his polling numbers!
housecat
(3,138 posts)his daughter converted, whatever that means. What also astounds me is a "Black republican" and even a SCOTUS member.
lees1975
(7,046 posts)may be Jewish, but he's a weak sycophantic, sissy tantrum thrower like his father in law, and equally as corrupt. Let's talk about whose father benefitted from a $2 billion business deal in Saudi Arabia.
housecat
(3,138 posts)farther from the truth. If I call myself a cat I doubt if anyone would believe me. Using words like Jewish or Christian don't make a person something they are not. Magats are not followers of Jesus, who by the way did not have blond hair and blue eyes. Trust me.
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LuckyCharms
(22,648 posts)judesedit
(4,592 posts)Hope all able bodied take heed. When push comes to shove, the cretins must be defeated.
arthritisR_US
(7,810 posts)wnylib
(26,014 posts)I am concerned enough that I've considered moving away from the MAGAs where I live.
I am a white female in my 70s. I live in a senior apartment complex of 3 multi-storied buildings. Most of my neighbors are ultra conservative RW Trump supporters. The businesses in the area (2 individually owned convenience stores, a novelty shop) are owned by RW gun carriers. They know that I am a Democrat who opposes Trump and that I go to a liberal church that supports inclusion and has sponsored refugees. I would be an isolated prime target if the fascists gain power.
I will stand with any group that fights fascists, but I cannot fight them alone when everyone around me supports them. So I have been recently checking out other places to move to.
1WorldHope
(2,054 posts)and it's a college town. A little oasis in a red state.
wnylib
(26,014 posts)trading NY for a red state.
I was thinking more along the lines of a different area in the same city, where people would be less familiar with my politics. It would make me less of a target and more able to act "underground," outside of MAGA awareness.
housecat
(3,138 posts)BonnieJW
(3,124 posts)My grandparents left Czarist Russia when the programs began in earnest. I have been researching countries to find the safest and most economical
JudyM
(29,785 posts)ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)I'm too old and knackered, and my health too banged up, to fight anymore. All I want is peace and quiet.
Mum owns a place in Mexico, with absolutely spectacular weather as a draw, but my (also liberal and increasingly fearful) stepsister has hinted recently that she wants company when she and her husband retire to Costa Rica, namely the company of my husband and me. They've lived there before, a definite plus for getting set properly, and their Spanish is way better than ours will ever be.
That's probably the best solution for all of us.
flashman13
(2,403 posts)Marthe48
(23,175 posts)Religion, culture, color, sex, orientation, wearing a mask for health, wearing cultural clothing, reading or listening to a book. Some dumb bullies are killing as many humans as they can.
Yes, by all means, the dumb bullies are coming to a place near you.
SpamWyzer
(385 posts)It is time to prepare. They cannot be trusted, he is insane and they are a bunch of nazis. Speak plain. Speak the truth. Maga wants to wage a genocidal campaign against ALL good Americans. I stand in solidarity with Jewish humans. Nazis are gonna get fucked up bad this time and it won't take a world war. Roll up your sleeves, let's finish this. Like the pogroms of the past, but against evil this time.
hay rick
(9,605 posts)BradBo
(1,012 posts)TygrBright
(21,362 posts)Anti-Semitism is one of the oldest and most destructive forms of racism. It predates European imperialism/colonialism, predates the exploitation, enslavement and genocide of African and American indigenous peoples - and, in large part, it ENABLED those horrors, by providing the ur-template of "it's okay to kill the different people."
Anti-Semitism is one of the deepest roots on the Tree of Hate.
It's also a uniquely powerful tool for potentiating other branches on that tree. Without anti-Semitism the toolbox for oppressing the various "others" is much smaller and the justifications lose some of their potency. Anti-Semitism prototyped the subtler varieties of genocide and filled the lexicon of rationalizations for oppressing based on difference.
And it's an incredibly supple tool for dividing the various oppressed peoples from one another. Get the >type< people to hate the Jewish people. Get the Jewish people to hate the >type< people because of their anti-Semitism. And so on, until each group of 'different' is isolated in its own perceptions of being the MOST oppressed, even by those other 'different' groups.
Oh, yeah, anti-Semitism is the real gift to those who would divide and rule.
So, yeah, I will have NO part of it, and anyone who tries it in my presence will get pushback. And any attempts to escalate it politically and culturally will get my pushback, up to and including heaving my aging body into the gears of the machine if necessary.
Because the world my grandchild will inherit doesn't need anti-Semitism and all the evils it has spawned.
wearily,
Bright
Delphinus
(12,522 posts)amen, Bright.
babylonsister
(172,759 posts)BradBo
(1,012 posts)He is a psycho murderer already.
LymphocyteLover
(9,847 posts)wnylib
(26,014 posts)intent to intimidate and put a bull's eye target on whom the MAGAs a should focus?
LymphocyteLover
(9,847 posts)I mean, WTF!!!
wnylib
(26,014 posts)They are active, willing participants.
So we need to communicate with and support each other without them, in spite of them.
LymphocyteLover
(9,847 posts)shrike3
(5,370 posts)getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)People in cities criminals.
Just about anyone not them heathens.
Ideas they don't like marxist/communist/fascist/evil.
The press as criminals.
Their rule would be a cross between the French revolution trials and the killing fields of Cambodia.
And most of it would be in secret.
Evolve Dammit
(21,777 posts)Delphinus
(12,522 posts)Are they in lockdown?
Was there Nazi graffiti? KKK?
And where are you located generally?
Evolve Dammit
(21,777 posts)Evolve Dammit
(21,777 posts)Just reported again in Freeport. Maine had a significant KKK "enrollment" in the 1920's, not unlike many states. Had a co-worker recall a cross burned on his family yard. Sure they are still active and growing. Buckle Up and arm up.
iluvtennis
(21,497 posts)enigmania
(457 posts)These miserable misanthropists tend to speak freely around me (old white guy in the south with ink, hair, and beard) and it's worse than you think.
Aviation Pro
(15,578 posts)Like me, shaved head, heavily muscled, wear 5.11s most of the time with a day ruck on my back.
scipan
(3,041 posts)moondust
(21,286 posts)how far he and his hateful, lawless mob would go to "punish" the targets of their delusional hate. Judging by some similarities to almost a century ago including scapegoating and militia-like activities, I'm not ruling out anything.
TeamProg
(6,630 posts)you had to become aggressive than defensive?
housecat
(3,138 posts)in the same house for thirty-three years. And we have guns. No plans to use them, because we both know we would have to shoot to kill any rabid magat breaking in or responding to that "knock on the door.". I'd probably have trouble finding the safety, but my husband has Rambo skills that he has never had to use. It's a terrible thing to have to think about. We're retired and living a peaceful life, but we would fight if it ever came to that. We've lived full lives without fear, and if our last days are fighting for our lives and the lives of others, so be it.
FakeNoose
(41,634 posts)I think Chump is unhinged in many ways, but I don't think he's anti-semitic. Yes he's a racist, and he also hates and fears most women. Especially the ones he can't control.
But Jewish people are a different story. Jewish people are his partners, his "friends," his supporters, his donors, even his own daughter and son-in-law. Chump knows a lot of Jews and I don't think he hates them or even dislikes them. His nasty tweets are happening because he recognizes that the MAGA minions - at least some of them - are anti-semitic and he plays to that when he blows his dogwhistle.

It's horrible behavior and I'm in no way excusing his rude and hateful tweets. It's all part of a pattern. It's how he herds his crazy deranged followers.
Ocelot II
(130,536 posts)https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-comments-american-jews-were-anti-semitic-white-house-2022-10-17/
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/12/07/electoral-logic-behind-trumps-antisemitism-00072661
https://www.cardin.senate.gov/press-releases/cardin-statement-on-president-trump-calling-jews-disloyal-for-supporting-democrats/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/04/01/trump-campaign-donations-indictment/11573596002/
"The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. Those are the kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else.
edisdead
(3,396 posts)Skittles
(171,715 posts)I have ZERO DOUBT that if the orange fascist could have his critics rounded up and put in camps and even executed, HE WOULD.....no doubt at all.
vercetti2021
(10,481 posts)And they've already exclaimed their desire to eradicate us. I'm up to 7 guns and I'm not gonna go out without a fight and take a few of these fascists to hell with me.
shrike3
(5,370 posts)Lady Freedom Returns
(14,198 posts)From what I gather from the comments is the orange slug said something. I must have missed it. What did he say?
BobTheSubgenius
(12,217 posts)Has there ever been a people so systematically and thoroughly persecuted, in almost every corner of the globe?
malaise
(296,111 posts)Take that to the bank