Let this sink in. In AMERICA, women are being denied health care. In America,

[Ferrets are Cool]

ONLY women can be sent to prison for acquiring health care. It truly boggles the mind that we live in a country that will incarcerate a person for being female and wanting health care.
And even worse, AMERICANS will continue to vote for those who enact these INSANE laws. GOTV people.




Yes, I know providers can be male and that they too can be jailed for providing health care. You get my point.

[bucolic_frolic]

1. I don't expect much from health care.

That way I have less disappointment. I always ask, are they right? Do they know what they're doing? As long as they dish standard care they can hardly be sued. You may have something that requires something different, or something they miss, but they're covered.

I get more useful information online with symptom search than from doctors.

[Blues Heron]

2. this is about abortion

[Sky Jewels]

25. You do realize that women can and do die from pregnancy

and lack of healthcare during pregnancy and the inability to procure an abortion?

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

33. Yeah, because your consultation with Web MD

Is gonna find that tumor in your lungs.

Some doctors are jerks who don't want to communicate with you. Been there, done that

But most of them will listen to what you're describing, and are willing to answer questions. Even though you believe otherwise, they definitely know more about medicine than you or WebMD ever will.

Really.

[Artcatt]

48. USA health care is a scam

[Lovie777]

3. And yet some vote against their own interest.................

[Pacifist Patriot]

4. Ijust started the movie "Call Jane" on Hulu this morning.

The early scene with the panel of men at the hospital denying a woman an abortion nearly had me throw something at my television screen. That's about where we are now. 50+ years later.

[flying_wahini]

45. That's an excellent show. I highly recommend it too.

[CousinIT]

5. It's a debate on whether women are people or livestock.

Last edited Tue Sep 19, 2023, 11:35 AM - Edit history (1)

It's that simple. Denying healthcare to livestock isn't so shocking. Denying healthcare to humans--well, that is rather heinous and unacceptable.

[SpamWyzer]

8. I see us

as allies in the new anti-slavery movement. Women are not 3/5ths human, they are 100% human and have rights that we all must defend, with blood if need be. this is about HUMAN RIGHTS! I will kill for my daughters rights and my granddaughters rights and the rights of 50% of our species. FUCK GQP!!! BTW, forced birth requires forced male sterilization as a response. I have had a vasectomy since my late youth and my departed wife always told me it was the nicest thing I ever did for us. I miss her and know she wants us all to fight for her sisters here on Earth.

[CousinIT]

23. +10000

THANK YOU.

[AllyCat]

39. This

[Irish_Dem]

6. And men are half the pregnancy equation and nothing happens to them at all.

In fact, while women are denied healthcare, and face forced birth, men can get as much viagra as they want.

Women still live in a patriarchy.

[TSExile]

14. Right???

It all comes back to the (Grand Old) Patriarchy. Women and girls are nothing more than breeder cows who need to be regulated. Their idea of a perfect world is a cross between Handmaid's Tale and the Stepford Wives.

[Irish_Dem]

15. In Afghanistan women are locked up in their homes.

Banned from public settings.

Even pets get taken out for walks.
Not women.

[TSExile]

17. Yup

That will be the next Republican platform. UGGGH.

I can't even express how much my heart broke over Afghanistan. Which was worse - never having any freedom for women before or having a brief 20-year window to have it all taken away??? 💔

[Irish_Dem]

19. Both are bad.

Never experiencing freedom or tasting it and having it taken away.

Yes the GOP is taking us back, way back.

When women are forced to have many children, they are stuck at home.
Can't go to school, hold down a well paying job, etc.
Stuck in bad marriages.

[TSExile]

20. Horrible

In this country, we can't even pass the Violence Against Women Act. In 2016, a candidate for the presidency was heard on a leaked tape bragging about grabbing women between the legs. In 2023, that same creature was found civilly liable of sexual abuse. That's the Grand Old Patriarchy in a nutshell. They did not rebuke or shun him. They hate women and girls! Full stop.

It was hard for me to really grasp any of this before 2015. That...creature descended down that escalator in June. In October of that year, I was sexually assaulted by a man who I had thought was my friend. Through it all, that creature was rising up the political ranks. I will never feel safe again.

[Irish_Dem]

26. It will take decades for this country to heal from the damage done by Trump.

And we don't yet fully understand everything he has done.
More will come out, some we will never know because it is classified.

But it will only get worse if the GOP continues on this dangerous path.

I am sorry about the SA by a "friend." A betrayal beyond words.
Hopefully have gotten some help to deal with it.

[TSExile]

51. Thank you so much...

I wouldn't be where I am now without the support I got from the local rape crisis center. Now I am doing my best to support them.

[Irish_Dem]

52. I am so glad to hear this.

That you got some excellent help which was beneficial.
So many women hide what happened and really suffer for a long time.

[electric_blue68]

55. Regarding the GOPatriarhy's opinion of women...

I've used the term "broodmares".

😬 😤

It's so infuriating!!!!!
Too many men still, as well as some women thinking this way.

Women wanting to be mother's whether by their own pregnancy, birth, or by adoption that's one (wonderful) thing. But forcing women?!

[Have been to 3 Choice Marches, Rallies in DC. Two (?3) of the Women's Marches here in NYC]

[appalachiablue]

22. + Ultra Patriarchy

[Irish_Dem]

27. Brutal, ruthless despotic patriarchy growing across the world.

[CousinIT]

41. +10000 n/t

[Lonestarblue]

7. I have been reading for months now that Republicans want to establish fetal personhood as law.

I did not realize until reading an article in The Guardian this morning that several states have already passed these laws, mostly the backward Southern states. These laws can be used against women for any miscarriage, natural or not, or taking drugs prescribed by a doctor, or even an accidental fall that causes a miscarriage. They have already been used to lock women away, and they’re used primarily against poor women who cannot afford attorneys and most likely black women given the states that have enacted such laws. Fetal personhood laws mean that the fetus takes precedence over the woman’s rights. She has none, the fetus has all.

I do not understand why US media is ignoring these laws. I find out more about what is happening in the US from a British publication than in US media. This whole article is well worth reading.

“Those laws are part of what’s known as “the fetal personhood movement”, a push to legally redefine fetuses as people, with all the rights and protections such a definition entails. The idea that fetuses are people is at the core of anti-abortion logic, but it also has the potential to rewrite wide swathes of US law. Georgia’s six-week abortion ban, for example, allows people to claim fetuses as dependents when they file their state taxes.

If fetuses count as people, then their rights can compete with or even outstrip those of women carrying them. At least 11 states have added fetal personhood into their state constitutions or laws, while another five states have added fetal personhood specifically into their criminal codes, the Pregnancy Justice report found. Thirty-eight states have “fetal homicide” laws on the books, which make it a separate crime to cause a pregnancy loss.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/19/steep-rise-criminalizing-pregnant-people-during-roe-report

[Irish_Dem]

42. This shows us that it is all just an excuse to subjugate and imprison women.

Something that doesn't even exist has rights over existing people.
Sure.

Most of these nut jobs spouting this nonsense couldn't care less about abortion.
It's women they want to control.

[TSExile]

54. AMEN

💯🎯

[Python boot]

9. Privacy

Justice Brandeis established that privacy is an unenumerated right because without privacy the other rights do not exist. This SCOTUS denies the right of privacy to women because they cant find the word privacy in the constitution. They are liars because they recognize unenumerated rights when it suits them to.

[edhopper]

10. Let this sink in

In America, millions of people have always been denied healthcare. in AMERICA!

[Ferrets are Cool]

30. You are correct, but for the ones you speak of, it's not because of their gender.

[edhopper]

37. It's because of Republicans

Same for why women are being denied now.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

34. And women get denied even more healthcare than men regardless of ability to pay

That's far different from what you're describing, but thanks for the false equivalency mansplaining.

[Python boot]

11. Ninth amendment

Ninth amendment recognizes unenumerated rights. Accepted unenumerated rights include right to travel, right to dignity, right to privacy. The liars on the court deny the basic right of privacy to women now. Lying liars who should be stripped of their appointments for tax evasion due to not reporting the largess bestowed upon them by Harlan Crow.

[Ferrets are Cool]

47. True. And welcome to DU.

[William769]

12. K&R.

[Snackshack]

13. This has been happening...

Since some idiot named Cain killed Able…because of religion women have always received the short end of… everything that has involved a male.

How it is that after 1000s of years they have not risen up wiped out the male species is something I am greatfrul for because they have every right to after all the shit they have had to put up with from the same type of assholes that make up the gop.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

35. It happened before Cain and Abel were born

It goes back to what got them tossed out of the garden.

Sheesh. I'm an atheist, and even I know where the concept of women needing to suffer over sex and original sin comes from.

[TeamProg]

16. It is truly insane. The GQP are power hungry authoritarians. The Poor are also lacking health

care, just like Jesus wanted, ahem.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

36. And poor women are lacking even more of it than poor men

Thanks for the false equivalence.

[TeamProg]

40. I bet you're a big hit with.. you know who.

[dlk]

18. American women are not full citizens

Women don’t have equal protection under the law.

[kimbutgar]

21. Highest mother infant mortality in the industrialized nations

I am so ashamed of the direction this country is going in on woman’s rights. I thought that was a fight that was over. But the religious right wing chauvinist pigs want to go back to their good old days where women need to be in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant.

[WhiteTara]

24. women born are considered the Sin

not a sinner, but the actual sin. Our bodies are forbidden and our brains are denied.

[LiberalLoner]

49. +1

[WhiteTara]

50. how are we to live?

I am so lost in this right now.

[LiberalLoner]

53. I know. It sucks. I'm sorry.

Me, I figure I will die of this cancer…my intuition is telling me that…so I don’t have to worry about the direction our world is going in except to feel sorry for those who will remain alive.

[Initech]

28. We literally spent 20 years fighting a war against religious extremist ideology.

Turns out the real terrorists are home grown.

[Ms. Toad]

29. Trans men can, and sometimes do, bear children.

Not to mention that gender affirming care for trans individuals (of all genders) is also being criminalized.

So it is not just women who can be sent to prison for acquiring health care, it is also gender minorities

[Ferrets are Cool]

31. I know Ms. Toad, but you get my larger point, right?

[Ms. Toad]

32. Yes, and I disagree with it.

Health care is not being criminalized "ONLY" fnor wome. It is also being criminalized for gender minorities.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

38. Thanks for saying this.

[Voltaire2]

43. Abortion providers and anyone assisting

can also be subject to criminal penalties. It’s a nightmare. In addition states are considering extending their reach to people traveling to legal states for abortion care.

Gender affirming care denial is affecting all sexes and genders.

They will be going after birth control, divorce, and of course trying to rollback gay rights.

[onecaliberal]

44. It's nothing new. It's exponentially worse, but not a new thing.

[Blue Owl]

46. K&R for visibility