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babylonsister

(172,756 posts)
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 10:03 AM Sep 2023

Trump Slams Charles Koch

https://politicalwire.com/2023/09/21/trump-slams-charles-koch/

Trump Slams Charles Koch
September 21, 2023 at 8:39 am EDT By Taegan Goddard


Donald Trump lashed out at billionaire donor Charles Koch, calling him a “very stupid, awkward, and highly overrated globalist.”

Koch has raised more than $70 million to oppose Trump in the Republican presidential primary.
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Trump Slams Charles Koch (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 2023 OP
Cat Fight! no_hypocrisy Sep 2023 #1
That's rich.. ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2023 #2
Well done!👏 Traildogbob Sep 2023 #19
That's a very stupid, awkward and highly overrated pot describing the kettle. tanyev Sep 2023 #3
Is there such a thing as popcorn futures trading? 'Cause I think we need to buy in ms liberty Sep 2023 #4
The scorpion biting the hand that feeds him RainCaster Sep 2023 #5
Just reinforcing my prediction DFW Sep 2023 #6
The big money folks don't want Trump ITAL Sep 2023 #9
The average GOP voters will do whatever their media tells them to do DFW Sep 2023 #20
I don't agree ITAL Sep 2023 #33
I doubt that IbogaProject Sep 2023 #36
Good analysis orangecrush Sep 2023 #27
Question is Why does Koch have to raise money? MagickMuffin Sep 2023 #7
Charles Koch Old Okie Sep 2023 #8
It's my sincere hope that this will be the last election for Chump and Koch FakeNoose Sep 2023 #10
Maybe e-loon can offer a guided tour to the sun in his e-bus erronis Sep 2023 #13
Shoot it out ReTHUGs malaise Sep 2023 #11
Yet if Trump is the nominee, Koch will roll over and spend millions to help get him elected. Lonestarblue Sep 2023 #12
You nailed it. gab13by13 Sep 2023 #18
Bag of rats! 2naSalit Sep 2023 #14
... roamer65 Sep 2023 #15
Koch just wants his own puppet CanonRay Sep 2023 #16
Koch SpamWyzer Sep 2023 #17
Agolf Twitler has projection down to an art form. KS Toronado Sep 2023 #21
Doctor Kochenstein wants the torch-wielding public to contain his monster. usonian Sep 2023 #22
Koch is slime, but Wednesdays Sep 2023 #23
The only thing i liked about Trump is that years ago he tossed one of them off his golf course. Koch Pepsidog Sep 2023 #24
I've always said I come from good stock... slightlv Sep 2023 #30
Your great-grandfather was right to rant against the Kochs. I suspect most people don't have any Pepsidog Sep 2023 #32
Tsk Tsk, donald, the pot calling the kettle black. republianmushroom Sep 2023 #25
Kick dalton99a Sep 2023 #26
Lock them in a small room with a box of hand grenades and not enough snacks struggle4progress Sep 2023 #28
White phosphorus grenades. Wonder Why Sep 2023 #31
Is Trump so stupid he doesn't realize Koch is behind the Supreme Court Justices he brags about ShazamIam Sep 2023 #29
I find myself agreeing with The Chump. Koch is an unrepentant Hitler loving fascist. Hassler Sep 2023 #34
even a broken clock is right twice a day Takket Sep 2023 #35
I see that Trump is back to using the alt-right dogwhistles, e.g. (((Globalist))). keep_left Sep 2023 #37

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,892 posts)
2. That's rich..
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 10:12 AM
Sep 2023

A FAKE Billionaire going after a REAL Billionaire who benefited from the FAKE one's tax cuts because the REAL Billionaire deems the FAKE one to be DANGEROUS 😳.

Somewhat ironic in a sense.

ms liberty

(11,230 posts)
4. Is there such a thing as popcorn futures trading? 'Cause I think we need to buy in
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 10:19 AM
Sep 2023

This is shaping up to be an epic sh*tshow. I plan to enjoy the hell out of it.

DFW

(60,170 posts)
6. Just reinforcing my prediction
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 10:23 AM
Sep 2023

Namely, that the Republican nominee next year will not be named Trump, Haley, Pence, Scott, or DeSantis. I think the only way any of them become the nominee is if serious Republican money cedes the election to Joe Biden. THAT is how any of those five get the nomination. As long as guys like Koch are still willing to throw dozens of millions into the race, it means they think they have a ghost of a chance of taking the White House away from Joe Biden, and that isn't going to happen with any of the above-named crowd.

ITAL

(1,321 posts)
9. The big money folks don't want Trump
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 10:30 AM
Sep 2023

But all the average GOP voters do. The lunatics took over the asylum several years ago, the bigwigs just haven't accepted it yet. There's noting folks like Koch can do, try as they might.

DFW

(60,170 posts)
20. The average GOP voters will do whatever their media tells them to do
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 11:10 AM
Sep 2023

If Fox and National Hate Radio say to drop Trump, it won't take long for most of them to do just that. They let their media think for them, so they won't have to.

ITAL

(1,321 posts)
33. I don't agree
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 06:08 PM
Sep 2023

Fox tried to drop him more than once, but when their viewers revolted, they took him back. Even before that, Fox was briefly onboard with immigration reform, until the Tea Party revolted and then Fox changed their tune. People make the mistake in thinking Fox molds GOP voters. Far more often they just give them what they want to hear.

IbogaProject

(5,904 posts)
36. I doubt that
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 08:29 PM
Sep 2023

His hardcore base is now out side of both reason and the typical national media. That support isn't enough by itself, but one thing both Traitor45 and the GOP know is keep the story simple. They are going to show migrant crime however rare in a 'Willie Horton' throwback, regardless of the GOP hobbling any way Biden could've mitigated the situation. I already heard a life long New Yorker claiming to me that there are migrants in every corner above 23rd Street ready to brandish a knife to rob and that isn't enough to stay in custody. This is not happening beyond the typical few muggings over a huge city. I live in this so called zone and that isn't happening, maybe one or two plants to create a fake story. So that narrative and any 'october surprise' next year are risks to us all.

MagickMuffin

(18,318 posts)
7. Question is Why does Koch have to raise money?
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 10:29 AM
Sep 2023



Too greedy to use his own money.

Oh yeah that’s one of their policies, using other people’s money


Old Okie

(221 posts)
8. Charles Koch
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 10:29 AM
Sep 2023

Since he has a net worth in excess of 50 Billion; 70 million is nothing to him although they hate to pay $1 dollar in taxes that might be used to help somebody else. Trump signed a tax bill that McConnell had ready before he was even elected which saved billionaires like the Koch a lot of tax money. After that they had no more use for him than he does for the suckers who send him their hard earned money.

FakeNoose

(41,599 posts)
10. It's my sincere hope that this will be the last election for Chump and Koch
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 10:32 AM
Sep 2023

... also for Rupert Murdoch.

May they all swiftly find their just reward, and get the hell off our planet.

erronis

(23,844 posts)
13. Maybe e-loon can offer a guided tour to the sun in his e-bus
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 10:46 AM
Sep 2023

I'm sure there's a catchy tune hiding in there.

Lonestarblue

(13,470 posts)
12. Yet if Trump is the nominee, Koch will roll over and spend millions to help get him elected.
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 10:38 AM
Sep 2023

All Koch cares about is a Republican in the WH and Republican control of Congress so he can get another tax cut present and make sure there are no regulations on the oil industry and no rollbacks in taxpayer subsidies.

CanonRay

(16,170 posts)
16. Koch just wants his own puppet
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 10:59 AM
Sep 2023

Every billionaire needs their own Presidential candidate, dontcha know.

 

SpamWyzer

(385 posts)
17. Koch
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 11:02 AM
Sep 2023

is scum, but he is not a “very stupid, awkward, and highly overrated globalist.” tRumpo wishes he had the power and actual wealth that Kochs built and now is being used to step on the twice impeached, indicted orangefaced cockroach Loser45. The guy with actual SHIT for brains. So glad to read that Koch and I have some common ground. MUCH more than any human has with Loser.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
21. Agolf Twitler has projection down to an art form.
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 11:10 AM
Sep 2023

“very stupid, awkward, and highly overrated globalist.”

usonian

(25,240 posts)
22. Doctor Kochenstein wants the torch-wielding public to contain his monster.
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 11:14 AM
Sep 2023


Hey, Charlie, contain him yourself.

Wednesdays

(22,582 posts)
23. Koch is slime, but
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 11:38 AM
Sep 2023

he at least is smart enough to know TFG is legally doomed, and is hedging his bets.

Pepsidog

(6,365 posts)
24. The only thing i liked about Trump is that years ago he tossed one of them off his golf course. Koch
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 11:38 AM
Sep 2023
family of douche bags get much of the credit for F’en up America with their concentration of helping to elect rwnjs to local and state government positions. I’m not sure which brother it was but the Dotard was jealous of a real billionaire playing on his course.

slightlv

(7,786 posts)
30. I've always said I come from good stock...
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 01:32 PM
Sep 2023

my great-grandfather had a hate affair with old man Koch. He ran a barber shop and didn't care if someone walked out during one of his "rants" again the Kochs. Grandma said he could have made more money if he'd kept his mouth shut, but not my great-grandpa! A follower of the Guthries, he railed up one side and down the other against the insanely rich in general, and the Kochs in particular.

I was quite pleased when my Mom told me all this. Finally, my intense sense of moral justice and my involvement in politics finally made sense. I was the only one in my generation to pick up his baton.

I guess I must have been listening in a corner during some of his rants (gryn).

Pepsidog

(6,365 posts)
32. Your great-grandfather was right to rant against the Kochs. I suspect most people don't have any
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 02:12 PM
Sep 2023

clue who the Koch family is and how they have adversely influenced our society. I just watched a 30 minute Youtube piece by Mehti Hassan (sp?) comparing the the fictional character of Logan Roy in Succession to Rupert Murdoch. Like the Kochs, Murdoch inherited a media business and turned it into a monstrous political propaganda organization responsible for causing some of the worst events in our lifetime. Murdoch, imo, has done more damage to the world than anyone alive today on multiple continents. Your great-grandpa was right, these merchants of hate, death, and division need to be called out, identified, and held responsible for all the damage they have caused our world.

dalton99a

(94,106 posts)
26. Kick
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 11:56 AM
Sep 2023


The Koch network includes groups such as Americans for Prosperity, Stand Together, i360, the American Legislative Exchange Council, the State Policy Network, the CATO Institute, Americans for Tax Reform, the Competitive Enterprise Institute, the Atlas Network, the Heritage Foundation, the Independent Women’s Forum, the Manhattan Institute, the Reason Foundation, the Texas Public Policy Foundation, and many more.

The organization’s LIBRE initiative even campaigns in favor of amnesty for illegal migrants.

The co-option of the Tea Party movement was spearheaded by the Kochs, who turned it from a citizen-led organization into a pro-corporate, libertarian shell, before dumping it when press attention became too inconvenient.

“The globalist Koch Brothers, who have become a total joke in real Republican circles, are against Strong Borders and Powerful Trade,” Trump tweeted in 2018. “I never sought their support because I don’t need their money or bad ideas.”

https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/06/29/globalist-koch-network-blows-70m-of-donor-cash-to-stop-trump/

ShazamIam

(3,128 posts)
29. Is Trump so stupid he doesn't realize Koch is behind the Supreme Court Justices he brags about
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 12:53 PM
Sep 2023

appointing or that Koch organizations support Jennie Thomas's help with the stop the steal movement, or that it is the Kochnetwork of internet trolls who are the MAGATS?

keep_left

(3,209 posts)
37. I see that Trump is back to using the alt-right dogwhistles, e.g. (((Globalist))).
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 08:47 PM
Sep 2023

He knows that they know. What an asshole.

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