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Nearly half of voters believe Biden broke law in regards to son Hunter: poll
Jacob Knutson
https://www.axios.com/2023/09/21/joe-biden-illegal-hunter-business
"SNIP....... ..
Nearly half of U.S. adults say they believe President Biden "definitely" or "probably" did something illegal in relation to his son, Hunter, according to a recent poll.
Why it matters: The results suggest Republicans' relentless messaging around the president's alleged corruption has broken through with a portion of voters, even as Democrats and some Republicans highlight the lack of evidence for the claims.
Driving the news: The Yahoo News/YouGov survey of 1,636 people found that the number of registered independents who said they believed the president had broken the law in regards to Hunter was even higher, at 54%.
* Among Republicans, the number was 85%.
.........SNIP"
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)JFC with this half the voters.
sinkingfeeling
(57,835 posts)of the 1636.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)...that's how propaganda works, makes people believe whatever the propagandist wants to make people believe.
It's also called 'marketing' in some professional circles.
The Unmitigated Gall
(4,710 posts)Walleye
(44,806 posts)applegrove
(132,212 posts)we should be aware of and include in our discussions and fight for the country.
Walleye
(44,806 posts)Nothing wrong with posting a poll, but what are we supposed to do about so many people believing such obvious lies?
applegrove
(132,212 posts)the propaganda. This is specific and easily to verify. Easy to explain. No evidence of crimes Biden committed. Don't believe me? What crimes exactly has he committed? Details.
Walleye
(44,806 posts)The Republicans have done a good job of false equivalence. Especially since Reagan and Gingrich
delisen
(7,366 posts)What influences voters is news. It also needs to be addressed if we intend to do everything possible to help Biden win re-election.
yardwork
(69,364 posts)Walleye
(44,806 posts)yardwork
(69,364 posts)It's like when the media roll out some outrageous lie and then say they're just asking questions.
There's zero evidence presented that this was a push poll.
Walleye
(44,806 posts)yardwork
(69,364 posts)A push poll is a fake poll, conducted in such a way that it is designed to influence the responders' opinions, rather than assess opinions. The wording of the questions is designed to "push" people's opinions.
Push polls ask survey participants leading questions, such as "Do you trust Joe Biden to tell the truth even though Democrats always lie?"
Push polls are fake. They aren't designed to gather information, but instead, to spread lies and propaganda. Republicans have used this strategy for decades.
Walleye
(44,806 posts)Ms. Toad
(38,638 posts)I didn't participate in this particular poll, so I can't speak to this specific question. But I regularly participate in their polls. I can't speak to whether they are properly adjusted to the population demographics, but their questions side reasonably well constructed, and not designed to push you to one outcome v. the other.
Walleye
(44,806 posts)VMA131Marine
(5,270 posts)It should be near 100%
Plus, I bet none of those who answered yes can actually quote a law they think the President might have broken.
sinkingfeeling
(57,835 posts)family is corrupt.
edhopper
(37,370 posts)has done it's job.
Celerity
(54,407 posts)Dave says
(5,425 posts)gab13by13
(32,321 posts)This poll is like asking the question, Have you stopped beating your wife?
Responding to a lie is a lose lose situation.
Walleye
(44,806 posts)Iggo
(49,927 posts)I feel like he probably did something wrong is not how we do business in this country.
yardwork
(69,364 posts)Johonny
(26,178 posts)Whitewater. Fox News makes you stupid.
rdchili96
(175 posts)Every time a poll is posted, an angel gets it's wings ripped off.
I hate the framing of "half the voters" that polls like this do. It makes it sound like more people than it really is.
Xavier Breath
(6,640 posts)of the overall cynicism Americans have about politician's conduct in general, as opposed to their beliefs regarding Joe's actual behavior. "They're all crooked" has wormed its way into the American psyche. Not everyone feels that way of course, and we exhibit as much here every day. But, politicians as a group have fallen in esteem so much over time, perhaps its natural to expect some people, Independents especially with no "team" to cheer for, to paint all politicians with the same broad brush regardless of who's in charge.
Walleye
(44,806 posts)Its dishonesty on the part of the politicians who know very well there are some very honest people in our government. Its also laziness on the part of the voters who really dont want to know facts. Actually thinking, its too much work for half of Americans I guess. You cant blame people for thinking the government is crooked when they have guys like Senator Kennedy, and Josh Hawley. But we also have guys like Chris Coons then josh Shapiro
tinrobot
(12,062 posts)They are sowing doubt in advance of the election - and it seems to be working.
The Benghazi BS probably took a few points off of Hilary's numbers in 2016. Yes, it was also BS, but they got just enough people to second guess themselves.
Maraya1969
(23,497 posts)And "Her emails"
Maybe the Dems should make something up about one of their own, (Not tfg because he is already charged)
Start an investigation into Mitch McConnell for stealing from the congress coffers? Or one of the candidates.
Maybe it's not a good idea and it is not what we Dems do but I believe in fighting fire with fire is the only way to win sometimes.
gab13by13
(32,321 posts)Hunter Biden has been investigated for 5 years, President Biden's emails have been turned over to Comer and Magats can find no link between Hunter and Joe and yet we are supposed to respond to a poll that is based on a lie?
How many people believe that Trump actually had bone spurs to get out of going to Vietnam would be a more realistic poll.
Takket
(23,715 posts)Id most likely chalk that up to a significant portion of the population just hating politicians in general and therefore just assuming any of them are criminals, rather than believing the people they polled actually have any sort of informed opinion on the subject.
maxsolomon
(38,727 posts)I doubt half could name what Hunter Biden did wrong without a prompt.
triron
(22,240 posts)JHB
(38,213 posts)Throw turdball after turdball, hoping something sticks, but even when it sloughs off it collects around the target's feet.
The rancid pile gives off a fogbank of steam, at which Republicans point with alarm and say "Where there's smoke..."
fredamoss3
(82 posts)Don't be a patsy for the media cunning.
NowISeetheLight
(4,002 posts)What do you think he did wrong? Any proof? You've got one so called whistleblower claiming something, but everyone he accused denies it. So basically you've got one MAGAT and nothing else.








