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erpowers

(9,445 posts)
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 08:15 AM Sep 2023

CNN: Why Are Some QAnon Followers Obsessed WIth JFK?

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2023/09/14/qanon-jfk-michael-protzman-donie-osullivan-zw-orig-contd.cnn

This is a video, but I could not post the video. In the video a reporter discusses certain QAnon conspiracy theories with three QAnon supporters. The reporter also mentions previous incidents involving QAnon, John F. Kennedy Sr., and John F. Kennedy Jr.


CNN Video Description: Members of the far-right conspiracy theory QAnon believe that former president Donald Trump is a messianic figure who will save the world from a cabal of evil elites. But there is an offshoot of the conspiracy whose members also worship a different president — a famous Democrat.

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CNN: Why Are Some QAnon Followers Obsessed WIth JFK? (Original Post) erpowers Sep 2023 OP
because they're nuts now let's move on to important sh!t. Think. Again. Sep 2023 #1
Because Biden & Trump are too old, but a 105 year old zombie isn't. TheBlackAdder Sep 2023 #15
I clicked on the link you posted. The video worked just fine. Glorfindel Sep 2023 #2
Her son was an accused cult leader. She says he was a victim, too. Eugene Sep 2023 #3
Elvis told me that John Jr. stopped by the taco stand a couple of months ago. They talked about 3Hotdogs Sep 2023 #4
Where do I send a donation for your campaign (or lawyers, or porn stars, or whatever)????? Think. Again. Sep 2023 #5
I was going to go into politics. But there is more $$$ to be made as a mega-pastor. 3Hotdogs Sep 2023 #6
ooohhhh....where do I send my social security check for you to love me.....??? Think. Again. Sep 2023 #11
Some folks have never hear of a conspiracy that they did not like. Chainfire Sep 2023 #7
I think that must be it. yardwork Sep 2023 #22
They are narcissitic delusional time travelers who think they can alter history bucolic_frolic Sep 2023 #8
The more obviously absurd the idea and story line ... sanatanadharma Sep 2023 #9
Because Qanon is all about deflection and diversion of.attentions. magicarpet Sep 2023 #10
Because they're born suckers Johonny Sep 2023 #12
The thing I don't get is even if JFK Jr faked his death and re-emerged (I know, I know), tanyev Sep 2023 #13
Because they think all their idols would be on the same team. yardwork Sep 2023 #23
I have some Trumper inlaws who believe JFK Sr is still alive and is going to help Trump get elected liberal_mama Sep 2023 #14
Ever Ask Them Questions erpowers Sep 2023 #27
John Birchers reimagined yankee87 Sep 2023 #16
Hmmm. I think I know where this started. Baitball Blogger Sep 2023 #17
Because NowISeetheLight Sep 2023 #18
Didn't right-wingers dislike him when he was President? Polybius Sep 2023 #19
Right??? TSExile Sep 2023 #21
You give these people way too much credit. yardwork Sep 2023 #24
So Jesus BlueIdaho Sep 2023 #20
Jesus is too woke. yardwork Sep 2023 #25
No kidding! nt. BlueIdaho Sep 2023 #28
If "loneliness and isolation " are the root causes of this insanity we are in huge trouble. Boomerproud Sep 2023 #26

Glorfindel

(10,175 posts)
2. I clicked on the link you posted. The video worked just fine.
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 08:26 AM
Sep 2023

These QAnon believers are scarily stupid!

Eugene

(67,101 posts)
3. Her son was an accused cult leader. She says he was a victim, too.
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 08:27 AM
Sep 2023

Source: CNN

Her son was an accused cult leader. She says he was a victim, too.

By Donie O'Sullivan, CNN
Updated 10:58 AM EDT, Sat September 23, 2023

(CNN) — “Now the family tree goes like this,” the man on the tape extolled confidently. “John John and…Trump are cousins. And Trump’s uncle is JFK Sr., and Joe Kennedy, who is also not dead…. And Trump’s father is General George Patton, and his brother is Mussolini…”

Colleen Protzman listened on, despondent. The man talking on the tape was her son, Michael Protzman.

“And the thing is,” she said, “he believes that.”

Her son had become the leading figure in a QAnon off-shoot that believed John F. Kennedy Jr., who died in a plane crash off Martha’s Vineyard in 1999, was alive and secretly working with former President Donald Trump to save the United States from an evil cabal.

-snip-

Read more: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/23/us/qanon-trump-kennedy-protzman-cult-invs/index.html

3Hotdogs

(15,368 posts)
4. Elvis told me that John Jr. stopped by the taco stand a couple of months ago. They talked about
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 08:27 AM
Sep 2023

being in the White House. Elvis remembers it but was only there once. Jr. was too young when he lived there to remember much.

Elvis said he wished the guy a few years ago had found him and invited him to the W.H. Elvis heard they served lot's a cheeseburgers. Of course, Elvis has lost a lot of weight except when he goes on a taco binge once in a while and gains a few pounds back. But the beard helps from nobody recognizing him.

Like I posted before, I only made the connection at the taco stand when he was at the window, singing "In The Ghetto." He thought nobody was around and admitted it was him when I told him I wouldn't tell nobody.


If any of yiz want me to say hello to him for you, let me know. It's already getting cold here in Montana and I guess he will fold up the taco truck in a couple of months.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
5. Where do I send a donation for your campaign (or lawyers, or porn stars, or whatever)?????
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 08:39 AM
Sep 2023

3Hotdogs

(15,368 posts)
6. I was going to go into politics. But there is more $$$ to be made as a mega-pastor.
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 08:49 AM
Sep 2023

---too much stress in politics. But in a mega, sheeple buy me a helicopter, jet, house in Aspen and another in Aruba...

Fuck politics. But if your soul is troubled..... I can help you there. I have this set of playing cards with inspirational sayings. ... and the toilet paper... Did I tell you about the toilet paper with verses on each piece?

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
7. Some folks have never hear of a conspiracy that they did not like.
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 08:51 AM
Sep 2023

The Kennedy case remains juicy because it is about the big, bad government killing the President and covering it up so successfully. They are being told exactly what they want to hear.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
22. I think that must be it.
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 02:35 PM
Sep 2023

I remember the "black helicopter" conspiracy theories in the mid-90s. That was all about the "new world order" run by a cabal of globalists, Jewish naturally. People watched the X-Files and thought it was a documentary. They read the Da Vinci Code and believed every word. Why? Because they were already predisposed toward paranoia, anti-semitism, and xenophobia.

bucolic_frolic

(55,141 posts)
8. They are narcissitic delusional time travelers who think they can alter history
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 09:05 AM
Sep 2023
They internalize TV video and believe because they saw it, only they understand it, and they were there.

These Wackadoodles require serious psychoactive medications and residence in a drying out tank for months if not years.

sanatanadharma

(4,089 posts)
9. The more obviously absurd the idea and story line ...
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 09:18 AM
Sep 2023

The more obviously absurd the idea and story line, the more proof that they alone are brilliant in sussing out the hidden truths of unseen evidence and being among the truly elite 'unwoke'.

magicarpet

(18,512 posts)
10. Because Qanon is all about deflection and diversion of.attentions.
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 10:45 AM
Sep 2023

If they can get people to focus of mindless matters rather than issues like global warming, alternative green energies, conservation of limited resources, social justice, economic justice and the myriad of social and cultural issues,.. it is to their advantage. If they can get people to focus on and take action on inconsequential issues it is better because their ambitions for self enrichment does not come under scrutiny, or get disrupted or derailed.

Diverting your attentions elsewhere is the name of their game,... Look,.. look over here,... see this shiny new object,.. focus on this instead. While their agendas craftily remain free of any attention or scrutiny what so ever - so they can operate off the radar screen - without someone looking over their shoulder.

Mission accomplished.

Changing the direction of society to better serve your immediate and longer term interests of minimal oversight.

Johonny

(26,179 posts)
12. Because they're born suckers
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 12:58 PM
Sep 2023

And conspiracy theories thrive on born suckers. These are people that want to think they are smarter than the rest without doing any of that book learning or thinking.

tanyev

(49,297 posts)
13. The thing I don't get is even if JFK Jr faked his death and re-emerged (I know, I know),
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 01:04 PM
Sep 2023

WHYYYYYY do they think he would have anything to do with Donld Trump or the Qanon nuts?????

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
23. Because they think all their idols would be on the same team.
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 02:41 PM
Sep 2023

Conveniently unfettered by actual facts - which would confuse and bewilder them - they eagerly consume a fantasy narrative that touches on all their own core beliefs and emotions. The stories resonate with people who are paranoid, people who feel powerless and are comforted to learn that none of their failures and misfortunes are their own fault. Instead, it's the fault of "those people" - a powerful group of meanies who have teamed up to take over the world.

Sadly, they're not wrong. There are a powerful group of meanies trying to take over the world. They're the people these confused Q followers believe and idolize: Putin, Trump, the Saudis, random billionaires.

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
14. I have some Trumper inlaws who believe JFK Sr is still alive and is going to help Trump get elected
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 01:08 PM
Sep 2023

JFK Sr would be 106 years old now! They say that JFK Jr will be Trump's vice president. It's really bizarre. There are an awful lot of crazy people out there now.

erpowers

(9,445 posts)
27. Ever Ask Them Questions
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 03:09 PM
Sep 2023

Do you ever ask them why they believe these ideas? I wonder why people are willing to believe these ideas.

yankee87

(2,825 posts)
16. John Birchers reimagined
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 01:50 PM
Sep 2023

Showing my age, but these are the kids of the Birchers of the 70s. I mean, they know more than anyone.

Baitball Blogger

(52,346 posts)
17. Hmmm. I think I know where this started.
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 01:56 PM
Sep 2023

Ever since I was a little girl I heard rumors about JFK after he was shot. I heard people say he wasn't really dead and that he was convalescing and would be back to take over the presidency and lead again.

I'm guessing that this rumor has morphed to now include Trump, who is the chosen one among the right-wing nutcases. Much like how they co-opted Jesus Christ and his teachings.

Polybius

(21,901 posts)
19. Didn't right-wingers dislike him when he was President?
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 02:13 PM
Sep 2023

I wasn't born yet, but I'm assuming they didn't like him then.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
24. You give these people way too much credit.
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 02:44 PM
Sep 2023

Many Americans are really kind of hazy on the whole Democrat/Republican thing. How many people do you know who say "I vote for the person not the party!" This is stupid, but it's impossible to get them to see tgar.

Boomerproud

(9,292 posts)
26. If "loneliness and isolation " are the root causes of this insanity we are in huge trouble.
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 03:06 PM
Sep 2023

nt

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