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global1

(26,507 posts)
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 05:22 PM Sep 2023

One Of The Talking Heads On MSNBC Just Posed This Question About Tr**p....

How do you deal with a person that lies so frequently and voluably and poses such a threat for democratic norms.

Here's what I suggest:
1) you expose his lies as much and as often as you can and provide reasons why what he said is a lie; and

2) you don't give him the stage where he can tell those lies and further nurture his lies through his continuous repetitive spewing of these same lies

Instead it seems that any chance they get - the media airs his lies. They don't fact check. They let him get away with continually repeating them

Also - every time they utter his name - they have to show a picture of his ugly mug. We all know what the guy looks like. Don't keep bombarding us with his image.

Don't give him a forum to lie and repeat his lies. And when you catch him lying - fact check and expose his lies.

Ignore the guy already. That will do more damage to him and his ego than anything.

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One Of The Talking Heads On MSNBC Just Posed This Question About Tr**p.... (Original Post) global1 Sep 2023 OP
And call them LIES. leftieNanner Sep 2023 #1
+++ agree. It took the MSM over 3 years to call trump's LIES, lies. They would iluvtennis Sep 2023 #5
Yes! Donald Trump is a pathological liar.. agingdem Sep 2023 #19
Agreed Evolve Dammit Sep 2023 #27
You don't describe his incoherent Truth Social rants as tanyev Sep 2023 #2
It's injecting unicorn DNA into a pig. jaxexpat Sep 2023 #15
Trumps ugly mug and uglier comments are featured daily right here!! Alexander Of Assyria Sep 2023 #3
We Here At DU Can Talk Tr**p As We Are Amongst LiKe Thinkers Here... global1 Sep 2023 #12
Everyone has his number! Why call the number all the time?? Silence is what kills the beast. Alexander Of Assyria Sep 2023 #43
We Here At DU Can Talk Tr**p As We Are Amongst LiKe Thinkers Here... global1 Sep 2023 #33
The Medias Touch guys said the exact same thing today: Rhiannon12866 Sep 2023 #37
Corporate "media" is shamefully on the gop side. Lunabell Sep 2023 #4
MSM shows his "nice mug" very seldom his "ugly mug" KS Toronado Sep 2023 #6
Follow the NFL Traildogbob Sep 2023 #7
NFL is serious stuff! Aussie105 Sep 2023 #13
Believe that! Traildogbob Sep 2023 #23
Nailed it malaise Sep 2023 #8
Much as you or I would like it, he will not be out of the media. ificandream Sep 2023 #9
They Don't Have To Devote A Great Amount Of Time To Cover Him As A Candidate Or global1 Sep 2023 #11
Yep Traildogbob Sep 2023 #25
I'd rather run a chyron underneath saying "LIE" or "LIAR" . . DinahMoeHum Sep 2023 #10
I don't believe that. They interviewer is given time to ask another question. The could do it Maraya1969 Sep 2023 #18
I don't believe that. They interviewer is given time to ask another question. exactify when Maraya1969 Sep 2023 #21
The repetition of his lies, fact-checked or not, is itself toxic. hay rick Sep 2023 #14
We should all cal the major news organizations and tell. Like "you keep posting his commets Maraya1969 Sep 2023 #16
and laugh out loud at him all the time samnsara Sep 2023 #17
They need a big red button TexasBushwhacker Sep 2023 #20
Last time they refused to shut up about him, elleng Sep 2023 #22
Just posted a note re: Katy Tur tiredtoo Sep 2023 #24
The media I watch fact checks and reports... Septua Sep 2023 #26
If only they would. Too much $$ from Agent Orange. Evolve Dammit Sep 2023 #28
I think we're going to need to amend election law to be able to start charging Warpy Sep 2023 #29
Shouldn't Biden demand equal time? Grins Sep 2023 #30
I saw "Talking Heads" I thought David Byrne was going off on Trump. Beartracks Sep 2023 #31
Tell that to CNN! BigmanPigman Sep 2023 #32
truth/facts no longer matter to the repulikkkans. pansypoo53219 Sep 2023 #34
It's Black and White. czarjak Sep 2023 #35
Tespectfully, I agree with everything you said, but telling us doesn't do anything, unless mahina Sep 2023 #36
Regarding showing his photo during news segments. Shipwack Sep 2023 #38
When ratings and ad revenue fall, he's toast. usonian Sep 2023 #39
His mug is ugly and so is his voice SouthernDem4ever Sep 2023 #40
Throw his ass in jail and let him lie to the prison guards! n/t HighFired49 Sep 2023 #41
Trump doesn't care if you dispute him or call him a liar. Only silence bothers him. Cassidy Hutchins IcyPeas Sep 2023 #42

iluvtennis

(21,509 posts)
5. +++ agree. It took the MSM over 3 years to call trump's LIES, lies. They would
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 06:25 PM
Sep 2023

say he mispoke, he misunderstood, he said untruth, he was in alternate reality, etc, etc, etc.

agingdem

(8,914 posts)
19. Yes! Donald Trump is a pathological liar..
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 07:08 PM
Sep 2023

Trump does not "misstate"/"embellish"/"mislead"/"exaggerate"..he is not "untruthful" nor does he tell "falsehoods"/...he does not "distort" the truth...Donald Trump lies...

the MSM has turn fact-checking Trump's every interview, speech, social media post into a cottage industry...how absolutely nauseating!...

tanyev

(49,407 posts)
2. You don't describe his incoherent Truth Social rants as
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 05:36 PM
Sep 2023

“President Trump released a statement expressing his concerns that there were many tabulation errors in the election results and called for a thorough investigation.”

Because that’s not just putting lipstick on the pig, that’s a full body spray tan, total makeover, manicure and pedicure.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
3. Trumps ugly mug and uglier comments are featured daily right here!!
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 06:05 PM
Sep 2023

Seems the ability to mock and be clever anonymously is irresistible to many…irrelevant and boring comments…but so profitable for the media.

So the media normalizes the cray and ignores the murderous intent…who is more evil? The fascist message or the willing corporate messenger of the message?

Wanted General Miley hung for treason!!?…put on ignore by very same media…carry on with the cray, anything over the line will be ignored.

NBC seems to be worst of the worst…their normalizing of the cray ability and ability to ignore the super cray, report only the facts they want to report is painfully obvious…the American corporate owned super rich mass media is not a friend of the people.

America, you have a massive mass media problem, fix it or lose your democracy…which is the plan…no more democracy for you!

global1

(26,507 posts)
12. We Here At DU Can Talk Tr**p As We Are Amongst LiKe Thinkers Here...
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 06:44 PM
Sep 2023

and we all know of his lies and BS.

We got his number here.

It's when the MSM speaks to the masses of all persuasions that can't sift through his BS.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
43. Everyone has his number! Why call the number all the time?? Silence is what kills the beast.
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 08:03 AM
Sep 2023

global1

(26,507 posts)
33. We Here At DU Can Talk Tr**p As We Are Amongst LiKe Thinkers Here...
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 12:01 AM
Sep 2023

and we all know of his lies and BS.

We got his number here.

It's when the MSM speaks to the masses of all persuasions that can't sift through his BS.

Rhiannon12866

(256,710 posts)
37. The Medias Touch guys said the exact same thing today:
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 05:14 AM
Sep 2023
PATHETIC Trump Issues Dangerous THREAT as Media MALPRACTICE Continues - Meidas Touch
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017865922

 

Lunabell

(7,309 posts)
4. Corporate "media" is shamefully on the gop side.
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 06:15 PM
Sep 2023

They're a corporation and beholding to ceos and shareholders.

KS Toronado

(23,730 posts)
6. MSM shows his "nice mug" very seldom his "ugly mug"
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 06:27 PM
Sep 2023


They should be using these, esp the ScareCrow, because he is scary.

Traildogbob

(13,071 posts)
7. Follow the NFL
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 06:28 PM
Sep 2023

When he lies, throw the challenge flag. Then check the replay booth. Show it in slow motion from multiple angles, over and over, after two challenges
Are proven lies, end the segment. Lose of downs.

Aussie105

(8,020 posts)
13. NFL is serious stuff!
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 06:49 PM
Sep 2023

You can't let lies and cheating get into the NFL!

Media is different, they see it is fair game to befuddle your mind so you can be easily manipulated into thinking the ads are good things.

The MP (Murdoch Poison) has spread far and wide in America, sad to say.

Traildogbob

(13,071 posts)
23. Believe that!
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 07:28 PM
Sep 2023

Picked up a local news print today, I rarely do. Mostly use it to shred for wood stove starter.
The write in forum had a half page of some fools spouting everyday GQP talking point. Trump is God, J6 was peaceful and justified and Antifa infiltrated to do harm. All the prosecutions are corrupt Dems going after hero’s. And Nancy refused to call in National Guard that trump demanded.
Not a word of refuting his stupid ass.
I can’t wake to shred that shit and burn it.
It was Titled “save democracy and restore law and order”.
You can’t make this shit up, not even the writers we all hope get back to work.

ificandream

(11,844 posts)
9. Much as you or I would like it, he will not be out of the media.
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 06:33 PM
Sep 2023

1. He's a former president.
2. He's a presidential candidate.
3. He's leading his party's candidates.

It's a reporter's job to report what is happening in the country. They can't exclude Trump. Yes, he says things. But yes, they do fact check. Every chance they get. They can't ignore him. Unfortunately.

If his polls drop, then yes, you'll see less of him. But then you'll see more of some other idiot like Vivek or Ron DaGoon.

The only way to fight this is to get everyone you know to vote Biden. Voting is the only answer.

global1

(26,507 posts)
11. They Don't Have To Devote A Great Amount Of Time To Cover Him As A Candidate Or
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 06:42 PM
Sep 2023

a former president. Just put in some lip service in covering him. Fact checking his lies. Performing the very least in coverage of him - by still giving his some coverage.

Just so we see and hear less about him.

Traildogbob

(13,071 posts)
25. Yep
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 07:32 PM
Sep 2023

And I just read pages of new voting ID requirements put into play here in North Carolina by GQP dominates here. Many people will not jump through these flaming hoops. I fucking hate the GQP worse than any enemy I faced while I served. Much worse.

DinahMoeHum

(23,639 posts)
10. I'd rather run a chyron underneath saying "LIE" or "LIAR" . .
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 06:35 PM
Sep 2023

. . .every time he opens his pie-hole.

Forget fact-checks. As former Capitol police officer Michael Fanone said it back in May during CNN's execrable "town hall":

"There’s no way to fact-check this guy in real time. He’s a volcano of bullshit.”


Maraya1969

(23,512 posts)
18. I don't believe that. They interviewer is given time to ask another question. The could do it
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 07:07 PM
Sep 2023

right then

Maraya1969

(23,512 posts)
21. I don't believe that. They interviewer is given time to ask another question. exactify when
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 07:13 PM
Sep 2023

they should point out the lies.

Maraya1969

(23,512 posts)
16. We should all cal the major news organizations and tell. Like "you keep posting his commets
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 07:05 PM
Sep 2023

but never point out his lies. Can you please do this for the American people?

TexasBushwhacker

(21,237 posts)
20. They need a big red button
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 07:11 PM
Sep 2023

Everytime he lies, they hit the button and BIG RED LETTERS say "LIE" and you hear an AHOOGA sound

elleng

(141,926 posts)
22. Last time they refused to shut up about him,
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 07:15 PM
Sep 2023

so there was a period of time I refused to watch.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
24. Just posted a note re: Katy Tur
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 07:31 PM
Sep 2023

Saying tfg is speaking to union workers in Michigan next Wednesday. The media is all owned by oligarchs and it shows at times like this.

Septua

(2,964 posts)
26. The media I watch fact checks and reports...
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 07:50 PM
Sep 2023

..the lies daily, all day long. They don't give him a stage, beyond reporting the lies, because he won't show up on a show like Deadline White House or The Last Word and face Nichole Wallace or Lawrence O'Donald.

I will agree, the interviews we've seen like the recent one with Kristen Welker, are good only for Trump and network ratings. So long as the interviewee is allowed to control the interview, it will always be in his best interests.

Warpy

(114,646 posts)
29. I think we're going to need to amend election law to be able to start charging
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 08:06 PM
Sep 2023

candidates who have speaking parts on the news the going rate for TV commercial time. It's probably going to come too late for the next election but honestly, this shit has got to stop.

His legal problems might be in the news, but he is not news. No one needs to show his piggy face and certainly no news show needs to offer him a microphone.

News media got this fat moster into the White House in 2016. Can they do it again, now that people know who and what he really is?

Jury's out, that's sad.

BigmanPigman

(55,301 posts)
32. Tell that to CNN!
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 10:34 PM
Sep 2023

Licht may be out but their "both sides" continues. I have boycotted them for years and every damn time I decide to be "opened minded" and tune in for even a few minutes my decision is confirmed. They suck!!!!!!! They are part of the problem of our dying democracy and they do not give a shit. As long as they get more $$$$ they will continue to contribute to our demise.

All they desire is getting $$$$$$ and more $$$$$$$. Nothing has changed in over 7 years. Fuck CNN!!!!!!! They are anti democracy, pro capitalism as long as they get even more $$$$$$$$. Bought and sold by the old, white, lying, rich men who know they are the minority. Nothing changes, everything stays the same. Corruption is the name of the game.

mahina

(20,678 posts)
36. Tespectfully, I agree with everything you said, but telling us doesn't do anything, unless
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 12:56 AM
Sep 2023

It’s starting a postcard campaign. Email, postcard, X, tweet, thread, toot, whatever. If we made a postcard campaign here every time we noticed how heinously and balance, the media coverages, I think we can make a difference. I really do.

Shipwack

(3,087 posts)
38. Regarding showing his photo during news segments.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 09:34 AM
Sep 2023

Is it too much to ask that they use an updated photo? The ones I see look about six or seven years old. He looks far worse in public nowadays.

I’m not suggesting using a “gotcha” photo that makes him look especially idiotic, just a more recent one that shows the jowls, thinning hair that can’t even do a proper combover anymore, etc.

Anything else is just propaganda about Dear Leader…

usonian

(25,837 posts)
39. When ratings and ad revenue fall, he's toast.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 11:39 AM
Sep 2023

Recall the movie "Network"

Billionaires who persist in losing revenue are IMO laundering money.

Putin's money laundering again, IMO, will be shown to be the cause of GOP and Mango Mussolini's treason of all times.

Because, to many, money is the only thing in life.

IcyPeas

(25,580 posts)
42. Trump doesn't care if you dispute him or call him a liar. Only silence bothers him. Cassidy Hutchins
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 03:41 PM
Sep 2023

Quote from Cassidy Hutchinson’s upcoming book: “Trump doesn’t care if you dispute him or call him a liar. Only silence bothers him. Being ignored drives him mad.”

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