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bigtree

(94,179 posts)
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 05:39 PM Sep 2023

Did Trump Commit a Felony at a SC Gun Shop Today?

MT:

The first question is, did he actually buy the gun? The reason why we have to ask this is that he has, on more than one occasion, loudly proclaimed that he was buying food for people only to have them later report that it was never actually paid for by Trump or his campaign.

Trump campaign guy who filmed the video of Trump saying he wanted to buy the gun quickly deleted it. Thankfully, the NRA screen recorded it for us.

Not to worry, because shortly thereafter Marge Greene and her boyfriend, Right Side Broadcasting's Brian Glenn, confirmed that they were present and he did purchase the gun. They were asserting this to gush over the fact that Trump was demonstrating what a strong supporter he was of gun rights.

The problem for Trump is, both he and the gun shop owner may have just committed federal felonies on camera since Trump is under multiple indictments.

18 U.S.C. 922(d)(1) makes it a crime for anyone to sell a firearm to a person under felony indictment:

Section 922(d)(1) makes it unlawful to sell or otherwise dispose of a firearm to a person who “is under indictment for, or has been convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year.”

18 U.S.C. 922(n) makes it a crime to for a person under indictment to either ship or transport a firearm from one place to another, or to receive any firearm which has been shipped in interestate commerce:

It shall be unlawful for any person who is under indictment for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year to ship or transport in interstate or foreign commerce any firearm or ammunition or receive any firearm or ammunition which has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce.


Perhaps what makes this even worse is that the Attorney General of South Carolina proudly posed with Trump as he was saying that he was buying the pistol.

https://www.meidastouch.com/news/did-trump-commit-a-felony-at-a-sc-gun-shop-today
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Did Trump Commit a Felony at a SC Gun Shop Today? (Original Post) bigtree Sep 2023 OP
Maybe he lied on his background questions. Midnight Writer Sep 2023 #1
Hunter Part Two? NowISeetheLight Sep 2023 #26
Well let's see if he faces any consequence for Beachnutt Sep 2023 #2
Right? 2naSalit Sep 2023 #3
Thank you for the info!❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Sep 2023 #4
If Trump shoots someone on 5th Avenue Mz Pip Sep 2023 #5
Given his modus operandi, he probably conned someone into buying it for him. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2023 #6
I'll wait and see where this goes. sheshe2 Sep 2023 #7
Possibly, but the statute is being reviewed for constitutionality by the 5th Circuit Ocelot II Sep 2023 #8
LOCK HIM UP!!!!!!!! FalloutShelter Sep 2023 #9
he mever actually does what he says he'll do at these evemts Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #10
There is no legal way for him to purchase a handgun in SC Zeitghost Sep 2023 #11
Trump is addicted to Adderal according to eyewitnesses. blm Sep 2023 #12
Whether or not he actually purchased it... TSExile Sep 2023 #13
Both Jack and Weiss should be interested in this. nt wiggs Sep 2023 #14
He didn't buy a gun. It is performance. All of it. Voltaire2 Sep 2023 #15
that performance should concern the court and prosecutors bigtree Sep 2023 #16
indeed. He is deliberately testing boundaries. Voltaire2 Sep 2023 #18
Well hopefully he will shoot himself somewhere... sdfernando Sep 2023 #17
lol bigtree Sep 2023 #19
One can hope! PortTack Sep 2023 #23
TFG broke the law and should be prosecuted LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2023 #20
He cant even buy the gun in SC, sorta thatdemguy Sep 2023 #21
And every fkg law enforcer will look the other way Fullduplexxx Sep 2023 #22
Weissmann says yes malaise Sep 2023 #24
Bottom Line. ancianita Sep 2023 #25
He's testing out his claim that no one is going to do anything, even if he murdered someone. lees1975 Sep 2023 #27

greatauntoftriplets

(178,945 posts)
6. Given his modus operandi, he probably conned someone into buying it for him.
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 05:47 PM
Sep 2023

Since he thinks he's above the law, he probably believes that it's AOK.

Ocelot II

(130,398 posts)
8. Possibly, but the statute is being reviewed for constitutionality by the 5th Circuit
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 05:50 PM
Sep 2023

in United States v. Quiroz. A federal district court judge in Texas (a TFG appointee, of course) held that a statute making a gun purchase by someone who has been indicted but not yet convicted illegal, is a violation of the 2nd Amendment. Oral argument was in February; the opinion has not yet been released. It is likely to go to the Supreme Court, regardless of the outcome.

Recycle_Guru

(2,973 posts)
10. he mever actually does what he says he'll do at these evemts
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 05:54 PM
Sep 2023

so I think he only held a gun--he did not purchase a gun or take possession /ownership of a gun.

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
11. There is no legal way for him to purchase a handgun in SC
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 05:58 PM
Sep 2023

If any paperwork was filled out (the 4473) it would need to be done in Florida after the gun was sent to a licensed dealer there.

blm

(114,642 posts)
12. Trump is addicted to Adderal according to eyewitnesses.
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 06:07 PM
Sep 2023

Drug addicts cannot purchase guns,supposedly.

TSExile

(3,363 posts)
13. Whether or not he actually purchased it...
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 06:08 PM
Sep 2023

...with his criminal status, should he even be owning one? This scares me. It's not a dog whistle, it's a foghorn.

bigtree

(94,179 posts)
16. that performance should concern the court and prosecutors
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 06:22 PM
Sep 2023

...play acting like you're committing a crime shouldn't be seen as a benign act.

Did he intend to purchase the weapon? Was he in possession of it?

sdfernando

(6,082 posts)
17. Well hopefully he will shoot himself somewhere...
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 07:01 PM
Sep 2023

Not where you were thinking because Stormy says the target is too small. He does have a rotund derriere so that is a possibility.

thatdemguy

(620 posts)
21. He cant even buy the gun in SC, sorta
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 07:53 PM
Sep 2023

saying the same here as in another thread. He cant buy the gun in SC, he is a state of florida resident. He could pay for it, they would ship it to a gun shop in florida. The back ground check would happen in florida. If he was honest on the paperwork the shop would not even try to do the background check. if he lied on the paperwork, it would be the same crime as they are saying Hunter did.

So until the gun went to florida and he lied on the background check paperwork he has not committed a crime.

ancianita

(43,302 posts)
25. Bottom Line.
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 08:55 PM
Sep 2023

Don't be surprised to see yet another superceding indictment from Jack Smith between now & May 2024, with further incriminating counts of the slobfather's threats, attempts to witness tamper, and general menace to society.

FOR ANY ONE OF THESE ACTS, ANY OTHER AMERICAN WOULD ALREADY BE HAULED INTO FEDERAL COURT AND MARCHED INTO PRE-TRIAL DETENTION.

lees1975

(7,036 posts)
27. He's testing out his claim that no one is going to do anything, even if he murdered someone.
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 08:59 PM
Sep 2023

And he's right. No one is going to do a thing about it.

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