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ret5hd

(22,502 posts)
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 08:48 PM Sep 2023

Trey Crowder on "The South":

This video made me think of recent posts here about the disrespect “the south” gets on DU.

While I admit I despise much of southern culture (so much so that I moved to a bluer locale) my thick Okie/Tex/Ark twang and my love of fried okra/chicken/greens etc will always remind me where I’m from.

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Trey Crowder on "The South": (Original Post) ret5hd Sep 2023 OP
The Drive By Truckers song referenced above: ret5hd Sep 2023 #1
Trey Crowder bdamomma Sep 2023 #2
Good Lord that's good! nolabear Sep 2023 #3
Hence "the duality of the southern thang". ret5hd Sep 2023 #4
American south LiberaBlueDem Sep 2023 #5
Well...the whites anyway. ret5hd Sep 2023 #6
They are exposed LiberaBlueDem Sep 2023 #16
That's actually not true ITAL Sep 2023 #17
Oh Yeah ret5hd BOSSHOG Sep 2023 #7
From the South too. multigraincracker Sep 2023 #8
Cognitive dissonance? Trey mentions 'forgetting/ignoring' inconvenient facts. keithbvadu2 Sep 2023 #9
Hence "the duality of the southern thang". ret5hd Sep 2023 #10
Although I'm a die-hard Washingtonian now, I was born and raised in Texas. Aristus Sep 2023 #11
Don't forget Austin! n/t Lady Freedom Returns Sep 2023 #15
I don't recall anyone disrespecting edhopper Sep 2023 #12
I criticize (loudly, vocally) all the things you do. ret5hd Sep 2023 #13
Nobody was giving anybody a pass. nolabear Sep 2023 #18
My SW Missouri likes and ways are gone. Lady Freedom Returns Sep 2023 #14

ret5hd

(22,502 posts)
1. The Drive By Truckers song referenced above:
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 08:52 PM
Sep 2023

If you choose to listen closely, I think you will discover a true gem:

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
3. Good Lord that's good!
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 09:04 PM
Sep 2023

It’s so, so complicated. I happened to be driving through MS (I’m from that coast and New Orleans) when Trayvon Martin was killed. I listened to local call-in radio stations wrestle and argue and cry and try to deal from all directions. It was so painful. But when I left, it wasn’t being addressed in the same way in my home in the PNW. People were loathe to believe there was ever any conflict about those terrible not-us people. They were all bad. They couldn’t get to the godawful miserable depth of it, that it is indeed tangled. I’m also surprised people don’t realize that there is a huge multiethnic population there, who contribute so much to the current culture.

I love the South. I hate it too. If we could just have the conversations rather than yell and attaboy one another we might make some tiny progress.

LiberaBlueDem

(1,167 posts)
5. American south
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 09:47 PM
Sep 2023

Only place on Earth that flies flags for and raisies monuments to its losers. .....

ret5hd

(22,502 posts)
6. Well...the whites anyway.
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 10:03 PM
Sep 2023

The rest were busy with civil rights, the blues, good food, jazz, literature, art.

But you keep on with your bad self. We like you just the way you are. Exposed.

LiberaBlueDem

(1,167 posts)
16. They are exposed
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 02:19 AM
Sep 2023

And their time is ending. Down with that flag and down go the monuments!

ITAL

(1,321 posts)
17. That's actually not true
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:16 AM
Sep 2023

There are other other countries where generals and leaders and even common soldiers who have lost wars (or been ousted) have statues to them.

It's particularly noticeable in the Southern USA however.

BOSSHOG

(44,738 posts)
7. Oh Yeah ret5hd
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 10:30 PM
Sep 2023

Lived in Arkansas, Louisiana and Mississippi. The food is incredible. Catfish shacks out in the sticks in Mississippi, crawfish “Berls” in Louisiana, my Grandmas Fried Chicken and Okra and mashed potatoes and gravy and homemade ice cream in Arkansas. Good Lord. And New Orleans music. Thanks for the memories.

multigraincracker

(37,651 posts)
8. From the South too.
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 10:41 PM
Sep 2023

Best thing about it is, it only takes a minute to know which side some one is on.

I’ve always wondered how it would have been if the South had won. My guess is they would have lined up every Union general and shot them in the head.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
9. Cognitive dissonance? Trey mentions 'forgetting/ignoring' inconvenient facts.
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 10:44 PM
Sep 2023

Trump, a NY Yankee, calls Sessions a 'dumb southerner' and they love him down there.

After all, his supporters also brag that Trump 'tells it like it is'.

Aristus

(72,178 posts)
11. Although I'm a die-hard Washingtonian now, I was born and raised in Texas.
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 11:15 PM
Sep 2023

I still say “y’all”, and I love my biscuits and gravy. But I’m no longer proud to be Texas-born. And I’ve been castigated here for that several times.

It’s not just that Texas is one of the reddest of red states. It’s that Texans celebrate everything that’s wrong with the place.

Texas is home to the Johnson Space Center and some of the finest universities in the country. But the Texas we get is slathered in bone-headed, anti-intellectual, anti-science redneck vapidity.

Texas is home to some fine, progressive, ultra-modern cities like Dallas and Houston. But Texas embraces the highly inaccurate myth of the pistol-packin’, rootin’-tootin’, six gun shootin’ Old West.

I’m just sick of the (almost literal) bullshit.

edhopper

(37,367 posts)
12. I don't recall anyone disrespecting
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 11:16 PM
Sep 2023

The food, or the music or the landscape, or the artist or the towns there.
I do see people pointing out that their deep Red politics is a drag on the nation and a source of some of the worse things politically we have.
I for one will continue to criticize any State for their politics. No matter where they are in this country.
Sorry, they don't get a pass because the barbecue is good.

ret5hd

(22,502 posts)
13. I criticize (loudly, vocally) all the things you do.
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 11:18 PM
Sep 2023

on edit: so much so that we moved as far away (and as “blue” away) as practical, considering family obligations.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
18. Nobody was giving anybody a pass.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 01:02 PM
Sep 2023

Just acknowledging that it’s complicated and that’s seldom recognized. It wears on people who are working together and could use some love. And so many people are quiet out of fear or resignation or not wanting to destroy relationships, but they’re there.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,198 posts)
14. My SW Missouri likes and ways are gone.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 01:09 AM
Sep 2023

Even the way I speak (probably from the introduction of Spanish) and my dialect. I am a SE Arizona gal!

Amo Arizona!

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