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WHAT THE FLYING FUCK IS HE TALKING ABOUT? WINDMILLS ARE AFFECTING WHALES??? (Original Post) YoshidaYui Sep 2023 OP
Perhaps he's working on an insanity defense. Or perhaps he is just insane. Hekate Sep 2023 #1
Oh he's insane alright. Has been for quite awhile. captain queeg Sep 2023 #4
He's not insane ExWhoDoesntCare Sep 2023 #26
He said horse de-wormer cures covid too.... Think. Again. Sep 2023 #2
He once said LiberaBlueDem Sep 2023 #16
And that's why the whales are coming ashore. wnylib Sep 2023 #21
I'm sure he got that from scientists who study whales. NOT. brush Sep 2023 #3
He's doing what all narcissists do when they're thwarted ExWhoDoesntCare Sep 2023 #27
Next he is gonna tell us that Ice Cream has no bones.... yup, no bones....nt mitch96 Sep 2023 #5
Intentional bullshitting. Right-wing talking points on steroids. Eugene Sep 2023 #6
I JUST READ TODAY somewhere, that Trump is being held financially liable DemocraticPatriot Sep 2023 #7
(which just goes to show that there may sometimes be a logic behind his insane rants, DemocraticPatriot Sep 2023 #9
That would be his golf course in Scotland. wnylib Sep 2023 #23
The Emperor's new words Blue Owl Sep 2023 #8
Still Tilting at Windmills Beetwasher. Sep 2023 #10
It's been a line of scientific inquiry at NOAA. Frasier Balzov Sep 2023 #11
no NOAA says no scientific data supporting the notion Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #12
Luckovich is mocking TFG on these comments LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2023 #13
Actually it's oil rigs endangering whales Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2023 #14
The only President who will ever be remembered GoodRaisin Sep 2023 #15
Oh probably some wack shit he got from Q world Captain Zero Sep 2023 #17
Uncle John stole Nikola Telsa's documents MagickMuffin Sep 2023 #25
That's something Dorian Gray Sep 2023 #18
the most effective lies and propaganda use a tiny bit of truth and build an alternate reality around Amishman Sep 2023 #19
He is malaise Sep 2023 #20
He's not ExWhoDoesntCare Sep 2023 #29
You can't say he's not consistent Emrys Sep 2023 #22
Something is seriously wrong with the way this guy's brain is wired. Torchlight Sep 2023 #24
You're lucky ExWhoDoesntCare Sep 2023 #30
Only the flying ones. nt Buns_of_Fire Sep 2023 #28

captain queeg

(10,436 posts)
4. Oh he's insane alright. Has been for quite awhile.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 11:32 PM
Sep 2023

His ego is too great for him to admit it, even as a ploy to escape justice.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
26. He's not insane
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 09:55 AM
Sep 2023

He knows what reality is. He just doesn't like when it goes against him, so he does stupid things so that he seems to be the winner coming out on top.

He wouldn't be saying and doing all these stupid things if he wasn't having a hissy fit about looking bad.

wnylib

(21,968 posts)
21. And that's why the whales are coming ashore.
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 08:25 AM
Sep 2023

They are looking for a marine biologist to treat their cancer.

brush

(54,143 posts)
3. I'm sure he got that from scientists who study whales. NOT.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 11:32 PM
Sep 2023

God, he just makes stuff up. Got to believe even some magats are starting to give him the side eye over nonsensical foolishness that this.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
27. He's doing what all narcissists do when they're thwarted
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 10:15 AM
Sep 2023

I mentioned in another thread what it's like to live with a narcissist, how they absolutely cannot stand losing to anything or anyone. They will say anything to try to twist the narrative so that they're the winner/hero. They'll make up crap on the spot if they feel threatened with losing--or if they actually do lose. They don't care if it's true or not. They don't care if it's relevant or not. Or if it's cruel or not. It's an injury to their egos when you show them to be wrong about something. So they don't sulk about or resort to self-pity--they lash out, and they don't care about anything except winning in that moment, by any means necessary.

They'll say it, if they think it will put them back on top.

I mentioned how my own narcissist mum does this. I can't even count the number of times I've torn apart idiotic assertions she's made, and she invariably comes back with some vicious thing to tear me down rather than admitting she was wrong. And I'm not kidding about vicious. Things like, oh, "You think you're so smart? Well, you're fat and ugly, so you're obviously too stupid to know what you're talking about."

She really says crap like this when she's losing an argument, because she hates losing that much. She cannot bear it if anyone sees her as not being smarter and better than everyone else--at everything. Even her own children are fair game to tear down if they don't treat her like an Omnipotent, Omniscient goddess uber alles.

And yes, that's a big reason why I refuse to live closer to her than 300 miles. I'm actively suicidal if I don't.

Eugene

(62,035 posts)
6. Intentional bullshitting. Right-wing talking points on steroids.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 11:36 PM
Sep 2023

There are no operational offshore wind farms near South Carolina.
He's trying to blame whale deaths caused by ship strikes
on not-yet running wind farms or wind firm construction.
Other politicians have done this, but Dump is dialing it to 11.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,576 posts)
7. I JUST READ TODAY somewhere, that Trump is being held financially liable
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 11:49 PM
Sep 2023

over a lawsuit somewhere in Europe that he lost over windmills being installed on the waterfront, in front of one of his golf courses---
(he sued because he thought it would 'spoil the view', but he LOST--- think maybe it was opposing attorney fees that have been assigned to him)---

think the relevant post was on DailyKos, sorry I have no more details than that---

but it very possibly could have something to do with his anger about windmills!

DemocraticPatriot

(4,576 posts)
9. (which just goes to show that there may sometimes be a logic behind his insane rants,
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 11:58 PM
Sep 2023

which most of us cannot comprehend because we are not up-to-date on his many legal and business affairs)....


In this particular instance, it boils down to money, legal fees, and "winning or losing"--

LOSING, in this instance!


So he goes to war against the windmills which made him LOSE,

and makes up 'facts' to attack them!


Yeah, he has problems, but the windmills thing seems not so far out in left field than we all would have presumed....

Beetwasher.

(2,988 posts)
10. Still Tilting at Windmills
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 12:32 AM
Sep 2023

You can’t make this shit up.

Ever since the Scots told him to fuck off about the windmills off the coast of his financial sinkhole money laundering operation there, he’s been positively looney toons about windmills.

What a fucking demented nutbag.

Captain Zero

(6,920 posts)
17. Oh probably some wack shit he got from Q world
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 03:38 AM
Sep 2023

Now he's deluded that he is a marine biologist since his uncle was a prof at MIT.

MagickMuffin

(16,030 posts)
25. Uncle John stole Nikola Telsa's documents
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 09:50 AM
Sep 2023



I just recently found out that John Trump reviewed Nikola Telsa’s documents after Telsa died. Not sure if Tesla was spied upon before his death, as there were Feds stationed at his hotel.


After Telsa’s death boxes were removed from the Feds, however, there were around 20 boxes unaccounted for. Then it was mentioned Trump had access to the files (I watched the series right after the Maraloco incident) so of course my thoughts are John stole the boxes, it runs in the family.



The History Channel has a 6 part series (I watched them on YouTube) on Tesla. That’s where I saw the info if anyone is interested.


Dorian Gray

(13,549 posts)
18. That's something
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 06:11 AM
Sep 2023

I've seen increasingly on FB with a certain segment of my Facebook friends. Sharing of articles about windmills being a danger to whales. Anger about it. It's been increasing over the last year. (The same people who shared anti-vaxx info a couple of years ago.).

From NOAA Fisheries, addressing the conspiracy: https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/new-england-mid-atlantic/marine-life-distress/frequent-questions-offshore-wind-and-whales

Guardian article: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/26/trump-whale-wind-turbine-renewable-energy-misinformation

Department of Energy addressing: https://www.energy.gov/articles/addressing-misinformation-offshore-wind-farms-and-recent-whale-mortalities

and The Sierra Club addressing: https://www.sierraclub.org/new-jersey/blog/2023/01/unfounded-and-premature-correlating-wind-turbine-construction-whale


Leave it to DJT to add juice to and spread another unfounded conspiracy.

Amishman

(5,563 posts)
19. the most effective lies and propaganda use a tiny bit of truth and build an alternate reality around
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 08:09 AM
Sep 2023

Construction of offshore wind turbines does cause some disruption and have slight negative impacts on whales. The permitting for them even references it: https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/action/incidental-take-authorization-empire-offshore-wind-llc-construction-empire-wind-project-ew1?check_logged_in=1

However, that impact is trivial compared to other kinds of human activity.

There are legitimate reasons to second guess offshore wind farms (maintenance / longevity, load balancing / grid stability with the varied output, cost) - but this is not one of them.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
29. He's not
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 10:27 AM
Sep 2023

This is merely the narcissistic rage over losing that windmill case in Scotland. Narcissists hate losing more than anything and will do or say anything to tear down anyone or anything that embarrasses them or makes them look like a loser.

He does it all the time to anyone who crosses him or otherwise doesn't treat him like he's the bestest and smartest and most gorgeous and most wonderful being ever.

We only have thousands of examples of him reacting to critics and opponents that way.

Emrys

(7,323 posts)
22. You can't say he's not consistent
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 08:33 AM
Sep 2023

He's been spouting bollocks about windfarms for many years. This from 2019:

Trump forced to pay £225,000 to Scottish government after losing fight over wind farm

...

The US president mounted a lengthy challenge against plans for an 11-turbine scheme off the Aberdeenshire coast, claiming it would spoil the view from his Balmedie golf course.

...

President Trump has often criticised wind power in his political speeches. Trump has said windmills cause cancer, kill birds and prevent people from watching television when the wind is not blowing.

...

He appealed to the UK’s highest court after twice losing fights in Scottish courts, but judges there unanimously dismissed the case.

His wind farm opposition led to him giving evidence at the Scottish Parliament as a witness at a committee inquiry into the Scottish government’s renewable energy targets.

Asked to point to evidence wind farms will destroy tourism, Mr Trump said: “I am the evidence.

“I am an expert in tourism, I am considered a world-class expert in tourism so when you say ‘Where is the evidence?’ – I am the evidence.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/trump-scotland-wind-farm-fight-payout-golf-course-a9201096.html


The court case gained quite a lot of public attention in the UK, little of it favourable to Trump. He was mobbed by those who weren't won over by his arguments when he made his court appearance to give "evidence", despite having paid students £20 to attend an astroturfed protest in his favour, a tactic he's used at various times:

Donald Trump 'paid students £20' to protest against wind farm near his Scottish Golf course

Protesters say they were paid £20 each to turn up outside the Scottish Parliament and wave placards

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/donald-trump-paid-students-20-9274811




Torchlight

(3,563 posts)
24. Something is seriously wrong with the way this guy's brain is wired.
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 09:35 AM
Sep 2023

For some years, I thought it was a simply a combination of lack of self-awareness and an act to play into his fan's base desires.

But his repeated and meritless assertions have pretty much become the definition of who he is, an absurd caricature of a cartoon gangster. I can't see him as little more than a grade C, stand-in Bond villain anymore.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
30. You're lucky
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 10:29 AM
Sep 2023

You'd know exactly what was going on with him if you'd ever had to spend sufficient time with a narcissist. Two kinds exist: your standard narcissist, and the malignant variety.

I lived with both.

And then people wonder why I suffered from suicidal depression until my 30s...

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