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turbinetree

(27,549 posts)
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 01:27 PM Sep 2023

'Sounds like a racist to me': Tuberville buried by congressman for remarks on military

By David Edwards
Published September 28, 2023 12:01PM ET

Rep. Seth Moulton (D-MA) said that Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) "sounds like a racist" after he declared the Department of Defense was not an equal-opportunity employer.

During an interview with Bloomberg this week, Tuberville explained why he had voted against confirming Air Force Gen. Charles "CQ" Brown Jr. as the next chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

"I heard some things that he talked, about race and things that he wanted to mix into the military," Tuberville said of the Black officer. "Let me tell you something: Our military is not an equal-opportunity employer."

https://www.rawstory.com/sounds-like-a-racist-to-me-tuberville-buried-by-dem-congressman-for-bigoted-remarks/

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"So to me, this senator is very soft on national security," Moulton said. "He's very weak on patriotism."

"And you know, maybe we're not supposed to say this, but he sounds like a racist to me," he added. "Hard to imagine this guy from Alabama being a racist, but that's certainly what it sounds like to this Marine."

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'Sounds like a racist to me': Tuberville buried by congressman for remarks on military (Original Post) turbinetree Sep 2023 OP
This Marine too. NoMoreRepugs Sep 2023 #1
This non-Marine too. ananda Sep 2023 #41
"And you know, maybe we're not supposed to say this, but he sounds like a racist to me." CrispyQ Sep 2023 #2
Racist remarks come from a racist. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2023 #3
Of course Tommy Tuberville IS A RACIST MagickMuffin Sep 2023 #4
I love the way he worded that! BComplex Sep 2023 #5
awesomely quotable Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #12
He can't be expected to know anything, he is a coach. LiberalArkie Sep 2023 #22
Great way of putting it. Caliman73 Sep 2023 #6
"Our military is not an equal-opportunity employer." Marcuse Sep 2023 #7
What else would you expect Jilly_in_VA Sep 2023 #8
Tuberville isn't "from South Alabama" misanthrope Sep 2023 #14
He currently resides in a Florida beachfront mansion JoseBalow Sep 2023 #17
He was their football coach. Jilly_in_VA Sep 2023 #18
Tommy Tuberville never coached at the University of South Alabama misanthrope Sep 2023 #24
Ummm, I don't think that's what the commenter meant. paleotn Sep 2023 #31
Well it's what *I* meant Jilly_in_VA Sep 2023 #37
See! Now I get an F for reading comprehension. paleotn Sep 2023 #42
Well he does have a BS degree multigraincracker Sep 2023 #23
I'll bet he made the top half of his class...... lastlib Sep 2023 #29
Pig Nuts Arkansas or south Alabama. I'm really not seeing the distinction. paleotn Sep 2023 #28
Hey! Sen. Tuberville doesn't have a racist bone in his body gratuitous Sep 2023 #9
What brain? n/t Jilly_in_VA Sep 2023 #19
Brain (bone-free)? IDK.... lastlib Sep 2023 #30
Maybe Tuberville needs to move his Klanner self to Russia Warpy Sep 2023 #10
Agree. n/t moondust Sep 2023 #11
Tub the tater-head is racist. And sexist, too. Seinan Sensei Sep 2023 #13
did this fool ever serve in the military. AllaN01Bear Sep 2023 #15
Not in OUR armed forces, however ... usonian Sep 2023 #16
Lookin' dobre comrade! sprinkleeninow Sep 2023 #39
I'd like to hear from Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, 4lbs Sep 2023 #20
24 Years, USAF Retired MSgt djacq Sep 2023 #21
Before the 60's African Americans didn't get a fair shake. alfredo Sep 2023 #25
Before the 60's, a black person could easily get lynched in most of the south. paleotn Sep 2023 #33
Before the 60's African Americans didn't get a fair shake. alfredo Sep 2023 #26
In 1993, African Americans assigned to PRECOMUNIT KEARSARGE in Pascagoula, MS maxrandb Sep 2023 #36
That's near an Army base. alfredo Sep 2023 #43
Tuberville is Irony Deficient ... aggiesal Sep 2023 #27
What a dumb piece of excrement. He embodies what's wrong with so many things... paleotn Sep 2023 #32
How did this idiot coach college football? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2023 #34
"sounds like a racist"? "When they show you who they are, believe them the first time". LoisB Sep 2023 #35
Say it! Say it loud and often! eom sprinkleeninow Sep 2023 #38
And to this squid! edisdead Sep 2023 #40
WTF Skittles Sep 2023 #44
Tuberville is an ass Demovictory9 Sep 2023 #45

CrispyQ

(40,969 posts)
2. "And you know, maybe we're not supposed to say this, but he sounds like a racist to me."
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 01:30 PM
Sep 2023

It's past time to start saying it, so thank you, Rep Moulton!

MagickMuffin

(18,318 posts)
4. Of course Tommy Tuberville IS A RACIST
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 01:37 PM
Sep 2023



He’s told us so and has shown us so.


We just have to start publicly stating it out loud.



BComplex

(9,914 posts)
5. I love the way he worded that!
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 01:37 PM
Sep 2023

"Hard to imagine this guy from Alabama being a racist, but that's certainly what it sounds like to this Marine."
No shit!

And yes, Tuberville IS soft on national security, and weak on patriotism.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
6. Great way of putting it.
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 01:43 PM
Sep 2023

I love that... "sounds like a racist to me". It avoids the whole debate of "you don't know what is in his mind..." argument that the right loves to put out when you say that someone "Is a Racist".

it SOUNDS like a racist. You just said something that someone we would call a racist would say... you need to respond to it.

Similar to, I didn't call you a Nazi, I am just point out that A LOT of people who say they are Nazis or support the Nazis, LOVE the things you say and support you because you sound like one of them.

It makes people have to look at their ACTIONS and WORDS rather than hiding behind the , "he called me a Nazi/Racist/Misogynist etc..."

We know logically or we infer... that if you have a lifetime of say, calling Black people "ni**er", discriminating against Black people, using other slurs, etc... you are likely a racist. But, because we do not have the ability to read someone's mind, we cannot with 100% certainty, say they are at their essence, racist. Again, framing it on "From what you say, the people that support you, what you do...etc, it looks A LOT like what a racist would do, say, associate with, etc..

Good job Rep Moulton!

Jilly_in_VA

(14,371 posts)
8. What else would you expect
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 02:13 PM
Sep 2023

out of a pig but a grunt? Or a dumb football coach from South Alabummer, which as I remind you, is a shit school.

misanthrope

(9,495 posts)
14. Tuberville isn't "from South Alabama"
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 02:24 PM
Sep 2023

He is a native Arkansan who attended college at Southern State College in Magnolia, Arkansas. He went on to coach at Hermitage High School, the University of Miami (Florida), Texas A&M University, the University of Mississippi, Auburn University in east-central Alabama near the Georgia state line, Texas Tech University, and the University of Cincinnati.


He never lived in southern Alabama, nor is he affiliated with the University of South Alabama.

JoseBalow

(9,488 posts)
17. He currently resides in a Florida beachfront mansion
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 02:49 PM
Sep 2023
NOT in the state he represents

Tuberville’s office says his primary residence is an Auburn house that records show is owned by his wife and son. But campaign finance reports and his signature on property documents indicate that his home is actually a $3 million, 4,000-square-foot beach house he has lived in for nearly two decades in Santa Rosa Beach, Fla., located in the Florida Panhandle about 90 miles south of Dothan.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/tuberville-faces-difficult-new-questions-lives-rcna99417

misanthrope

(9,495 posts)
24. Tommy Tuberville never coached at the University of South Alabama
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 03:32 PM
Sep 2023

It is a matter of record.

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
31. Ummm, I don't think that's what the commenter meant.
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 04:01 PM
Sep 2023

FROM South Alabummer doesn't mean coach OF South Alabama. Now you get an F for reading comprehension. No worries though. I get them all the time.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,371 posts)
37. Well it's what *I* meant
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 04:20 PM
Sep 2023

and I'm sticking to it. Besides, he's the senator FROM Alabummer, and a very junior one at that. Living in FloriDUH doesn't excuse him. And South Alabummer is a shit school, as everybody in the Sun Belt (except those from Southern Missishitty like Bret Favre) knows!

lastlib

(28,264 posts)
29. I'll bet he made the top half of his class......
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 03:59 PM
Sep 2023

possible.

It's notable that in his college and professional life, they didn't let him play with subatomic particles.....

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
28. Pig Nuts Arkansas or south Alabama. I'm really not seeing the distinction.
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 03:58 PM
Sep 2023

But, I'll give you an A for facts, even if they are irrelevant.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. Hey! Sen. Tuberville doesn't have a racist bone in his body
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 02:17 PM
Sep 2023

It's his brain (bone-free, presumably) that thinks nobody could possibly be better-qualified for anything than any random White man. That passes as a #sciencefact in the Senator's world.

But don't just take my word for it; witness the thundering silence with which Senate Republicans have responded to their colleague's remarks.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
10. Maybe Tuberville needs to move his Klanner self to Russia
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 02:17 PM
Sep 2023

but even they are pressing brown and black men into service since the white guys keep getting slaughtered because Putin loyalists in charge of the military don't know what the fuck they're doing.

Go on, Tuberville, I double dog dare ya.

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
20. I'd like to hear from Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin,
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 03:07 PM
Sep 2023

Lt. General Nadja West, US Army

Major General Marcia Anderson, US Army

Major General Fred Gorden, US Army

General Charles Brown Jr., of the USAF,

Carlos Del Toro, Secretary of the US Navy,

and a host of others on this matter.


Those are all technically part of the DoD. Only the US Coast Guard is not.



djacq

(1,778 posts)
21. 24 Years, USAF Retired MSgt
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 03:08 PM
Sep 2023

As an African American, I'm living proof and a witness that our military is an equal-opportunity employer.

Tube-ville is talking out of his ass.

alfredo

(60,301 posts)
25. Before the 60's African Americans didn't get a fair shake.
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 03:39 PM
Sep 2023

When I was assigned to Kagnew Station in east Africa. The first African American was serving his first tour. The radio station only played country, no rock, no soul, no jazz.

Because of our mission it was feared that blacks would side with fellow Africans. The base didn’t include blacks in orientation. The presenter was not kind to the locals.

https://www.amazon.com/Didnt-Do-You-Betrayed-African/dp/0060780932 There’s a whole chapter dealing with us young soldiers stationed in Asmara

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
33. Before the 60's, a black person could easily get lynched in most of the south.
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 04:07 PM
Sep 2023

By my time in the Navy, early 80's, the US military was the most integrated part of American society. Still is in many respects.

alfredo

(60,301 posts)
26. Before the 60's African Americans didn't get a fair shake.
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 03:41 PM
Sep 2023

When I was assigned to Kagnew Station in east Africa. The first African American was serving his first tour. The radio station only played country, no rock, no soul, no jazz.

Because of our mission it was feared that blacks would side with fellow Africans. The base didn’t include blacks in orientation. The presenter was not kind to the locals.

https://www.amazon.com/Didnt-Do-You-Betrayed-African/dp/0060780932 There’s a whole chapter dealing with us young soldiers stationed in Asmara

maxrandb

(17,428 posts)
36. In 1993, African Americans assigned to PRECOMUNIT KEARSARGE in Pascagoula, MS
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 04:18 PM
Sep 2023

Were advised of places they could not go in Pascagoula.

There were also several businesses off-limits, including a barbershop that refused to cut AA hair.

This was, again, 1993!

alfredo

(60,301 posts)
43. That's near an Army base.
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 12:05 AM
Sep 2023

My sister lived there with her husband. The county was dry, so my sis ran a small bootlegging enterprise.

I did my basic in Ft Jackson. They were hostile toward African Americans and anyone that fraternized with them.

aggiesal

(10,804 posts)
27. Tuberville is Irony Deficient ...
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 03:48 PM
Sep 2023

The military along with all other public government agency, are all equal-opportunity employers.

He took too many hits to his head when he played football as a safety for the Muleriders.

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
32. What a dumb piece of excrement. He embodies what's wrong with so many things...
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 04:04 PM
Sep 2023

Power conference, FBS athletics, modern republicanism and evilgelical religion all rolled into one stinking piece of shit.

LoisB

(13,028 posts)
35. "sounds like a racist"? "When they show you who they are, believe them the first time".
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 04:16 PM
Sep 2023

Tuberville IS a racist pig (apology to pigs).

Skittles

(171,710 posts)
44. WTF
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 01:23 AM
Sep 2023

TUBERVILLE NEVER SPENT ONE FUCKING DAY IN A MILITARY UNIFORM, HE NEEDS TO SIT DOWN AND STFU

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