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marmar

(79,157 posts)
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 07:51 PM Sep 2023

Donald Trump's thrill ride is nearly over -- but the media refuses to let go


Donald Trump's thrill ride is nearly over — but the media refuses to let go
What if we told America the truth about Donald Trump? He's a fraud, a cheat and a rapist, facing 91 felony counts

By BRIAN KAREM
Columnist
PUBLISHED SEPTEMBER 28, 2023 9:19AM (EDT)


(Salon) I take no joy in saying this, but we in the press are moral cowards.

Last Friday, former President Donald Trump called for the execution of U.S. Army Gen. Mark Milley, the outgoing chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, branding him a traitor. This was because Milley told his Chinese counterparts, toward the end of the Trump administration, that the U.S. was not planning to invade China and start World War III. In other words, Milley reiterated official U.S. policy since the end of World War II, which Trump is apparently unaware that we won. But forgive him: He also seems to think Jeb Bush was president.

A few days later, our actual president, Joe Biden, made history by standing on a picket line with striking UAW members in Michigan.

We in the press didn't tell you much about that, but we wasted airtime, pixels and ink reporting that Trump calls himself "pro-worker" — though there is no evidence of that to be found anywhere. We also told you that Biden wears tennis shoes. We pretty much ignored Trump's threat against the chairman of the Joint Chiefs — who Trump himself appointed, by the way. We have also done minimal reporting on the New York judge who imposed the "corporate death penalty" on Trump's business enterprises this week and may end up confiscating Trump's property, after issuing a summary judgment that Trump's companies actively engaged in fraud over many years.

....(snip)....

So busy are we trying to pretend we're even-handed that we present propaganda as fact just to look fair. That's not our job. The moronic desire to be "objective" blinds us from our true mission: providing vetted facts. ............(more)

https://www.salon.com/2023/09/28/donald-thrill-ride-is-nearly-over--but-the-media-wont-let-him-go/




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Donald Trump's thrill ride is nearly over -- but the media refuses to let go (Original Post) marmar Sep 2023 OP
K&R 2naSalit Sep 2023 #1
Kicked. n/t GP6971 Sep 2023 #2
No it is not nearly over, unless he is disqualified from running there is a very good doc03 Sep 2023 #3
We can all hope at the very least he winds babylonsister Sep 2023 #7
How is he going to steal the 2024 election when all of his buddies .. LenaBaby61 Sep 2023 #21
If the Republicans can damage the economy enough and gas prices are one dollar doc03 Sep 2023 #23
Plus if % newdayneeded Sep 2023 #26
Standing ovation 👏 tulipsandroses Sep 2023 #4
K&R Blue Owl Sep 2023 #5
K&R MustLoveBeagles Sep 2023 #6
Must read. And share, wherever you can. Dem2theMax Sep 2023 #8
My strong suggestion for the campaign honchos for Joe Biden moniss Sep 2023 #9
He's a ratings cash cow n/t leftstreet Sep 2023 #10
The media are highly motivated to stimulate . . . something. Aussie105 Sep 2023 #11
THIS malaise Sep 2023 #12
Past time for media to stop collaborating with TFG Nululu Sep 2023 #13
30% plus of the threads in GD are Trump KentuckyWoman Sep 2023 #14
It's not talking about Trump that's the problem, it's the normalizing, faux objective talking Silent3 Sep 2023 #22
Aha. Yes yes KentuckyWoman Sep 2023 #27
The media is still fellating Chump even after all this - IT HAS TO END! FakeNoose Sep 2023 #15
I would add Nicolle Wallace to that list. MontanaMama Sep 2023 #16
True. She finally came to. At least it seems that way, for the time being. calimary Oct 2023 #28
K&R. The time for piper-paying is coming soon; remember then who called the tune. nt Buns_of_Fire Sep 2023 #17
Where have all the media gone? wnylib Sep 2023 #18
Media still making money off tfg tiredtoo Sep 2023 #19
The media keeps trying to turn this into a horse race. marble falls Sep 2023 #20
Thank you. It's so frustrating. The whole purpose of free speech ecstatic Sep 2023 #24
The fucking M$M is just giving him more amyl nitrate, like Frank Booth's joyride Blue Owl Sep 2023 #25

doc03

(38,796 posts)
3. No it is not nearly over, unless he is disqualified from running there is a very good
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 08:05 PM
Sep 2023

chance he will be re-elected. If Republicans succeed in tanking the economy and keeping gas prices up
we are in deep trouble.

babylonsister

(172,558 posts)
7. We can all hope at the very least he winds
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 08:49 PM
Sep 2023

up in jail.

Are firing squads legal? I kid, sorta.

LenaBaby61

(6,991 posts)
21. How is he going to steal the 2024 election when all of his buddies ..
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 10:53 PM
Sep 2023

Oath Keepers, Proud boys, fake electors, filthy Rudy, Mark Meadows, and the REST will either be heading to jail, or on trial. His puppet-master putin can only help him so much this time around, as he's slowly having his ass kicked by Ukraine. IF, and I say IF Dems, women, the young get out to vote, game over. There are more of us than maggots. How can he steal Michigan? Wisconsin? Pennsylvania? He needs most if not ALL of those swing states to win the presidency. IF, yes IF the same people who got out to murder that BIG, FAKE MAGA RED WAVE this past midterm VOTE, HE'S done. He's probably not going to make it to 2024. You see how unhinged that bastard's becoming? He said that Jeb Bush started the Iraq war, that he ran vs Pres. Obama in 2016, and that he has to stop Biden from starting WWll? Who knew Jeb Started the Iraq War. Pres. Biden makes ONE slip up, and the mostly corporate, greedy for ad dollars to put into their pocket's media goes crazy. Dems are also doing well in off-year elections which has never happened that I can remember.




Trump is weaker among independents than Republicans in primary polls.

That doesn’t mean, however, that Trump doesn’t have potential vulnerabilities. Primary polling suggests that Trump is not performing as well among Republican-leaning independents and unaffiliated voters who plan to vote in the GOP nomination race as he is among self-identified Republicans. And past Republican presidential primaries have demonstrated that independent voters can make up a significant chunk of the electorate in early voting states and, if their preferences differ markedly from Republicans, can influence outcomes.

To be clear, Trump usually leads among independent voters in primary polls — just by smaller margins than he does among self-identified Republicans. In what may be an obvious point, his large advantage among Republicans matters a great deal considering far more Republicans will vote in the GOP contest than independents (or Democrats, for that matter). During the competitive periods of the 2008, 2012 and 2016 Republican presidential primaries, around 70 to 75 percent of primary and caucus voters identified as Republican, according to ABC News’s aggregate exit poll data, while about 20 to 25 percent identified as independent or something else (5 percent or fewer identified as Democrats). But if the Republican race does tighten in the next few months, the preferences of independent voters could matter, particularly in New Hampshire, which has one of the largest blocs of unaffiliated voters of any state in the country.

https://abcnews.go.com/538/trump-weaker-independents-republicans-primary-polls/story?id=103380864

I don't trust ANY of these corporate news media outfits or 538. But this article is worth a read, because every now and then you do have ONE journalist telling the truth.

How outlier polls happen — and what to do with them
Any one poll is subject to error. That's why we have an average.



https://abcnews.go.com/538/outlier-polls-happen/story?id=103463726

doc03

(38,796 posts)
23. If the Republicans can damage the economy enough and gas prices are one dollar
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 07:28 AM
Sep 2023

higher this time next year they won't need to steal the election.

tulipsandroses

(8,120 posts)
4. Standing ovation 👏
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 08:08 PM
Sep 2023

Stop trying to act like this is normal! How would you report all these crimes if they were perpetrated by President Obama ??

moniss

(8,639 posts)
9. My strong suggestion for the campaign honchos for Joe Biden
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 09:28 PM
Sep 2023

along with the Democratic leadership in each state is to immediately identify in each state the positive impacts of the major economic bills that Joe worked so hard to get passed. Show those projects being built and improvements being made to existing infrastructure. Then all elected Democrats and campaign people should talk about those every single day in every single interview and it should be a cornerstone of the ad campaign. Do it constantly beginning now so that the information gets out there and counters the constant "too old" crap etc. that the media is making the focus of every segment now.

Aussie105

(7,572 posts)
11. The media are highly motivated to stimulate . . . something.
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 09:37 PM
Sep 2023

Bothsiderisms, accentuating differences and confrontations, trying to keep you on your toes, heavily confused and concerned.

Just to make sure you come back and feed on their brand of 'ohmygoodness, youse gotta worry about this'!

A headline like 'Trump is officially toast, ignore him, no longer relevant, he is a sham, always was' is going to turn customers away in droves.



KentuckyWoman

(7,365 posts)
14. 30% plus of the threads in GD are Trump
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 10:00 PM
Sep 2023

It isn't just the media keeping him alive.

I'm on here commenting so obviously, me too. I can't drop him until I'm sure he can't hurt America anymore. Yes the media is padding the profits with him but I have no trouble with the keeping the hits coming until there's nothing left of him but the smell.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
22. It's not talking about Trump that's the problem, it's the normalizing, faux objective talking
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 11:21 PM
Sep 2023

Talking about Trump less isn't going to help.

The media needs to continue to talk about Trump as much or more than it does, but with the courage and honestly and bluntness that isn't possible when the main concern is ratings and the appearance of neutrality.

KentuckyWoman

(7,365 posts)
27. Aha. Yes yes
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 01:38 PM
Sep 2023

Didn't catch that first time. You are right!

Example from local news. Reporting on Ohio district maps. They said the old map heavily favored "one party". Is it that hard to just SAY it.

They do need to just say it. Republicans cheat.

FakeNoose

(40,026 posts)
15. The media is still fellating Chump even after all this - IT HAS TO END!
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 10:07 PM
Sep 2023

Thank you Brian Karem, Jeff Tiedrich, Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O'Donnell and a small number of others. Other than these few, the American news media has neglected its duty for way too long.

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
18. Where have all the media gone?
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 10:28 PM
Sep 2023

Gone to tabloids, every one.

When will they ever learn?

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
19. Media still making money off tfg
Thu Sep 28, 2023, 10:32 PM
Sep 2023

and they will continue until it stops turning a profit.

ecstatic

(35,003 posts)
24. Thank you. It's so frustrating. The whole purpose of free speech
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 07:31 AM
Sep 2023

Is so that news organizations can do their fucking jobs. Unfortunately, that's not happening. I don't know what they're teaching in journalism school but it needs to be revamped. An educated, well-informed society is essential for democracy.

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