Win-win

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez @AOC · 36m
Here’s what went down: we just won a clean 45 day gov extension, stripped GOP’s earlier 30% cuts to Social Security admin etc, staved off last minute anti-immigrant hijinks, and averted shutdown (for now).

People will get paychecks and MTG threw a tantrum on the way out. Win-win

Link to tweet

Dan Rather @DanRather 1h
What kind of party leader has to beg the other party to save his you know what?

[KPN]

1. Watch this awesome floor speech by our minority house leader.

Awesome!

[Lovie777]

2. Response to Dan Rather...............................

a ungrateful one.

[MagickMuffin]

6. What?

Not sure I understand your outrage.

Could you explain it better?

Are you mad at Dan Rather?

[AZSkiffyGeek]

8. Rather's rhetorical question was aimed at McCarthy

Dan Rather @DanRather 1h
"What kind of party leader has to beg the other party to save his you know what?"

Poster answered the question - they weren't attacking Rather.

[MagickMuffin]

28. Well I know Dan Rather 🤭

I knew who Dan Rather was talking about. Us Texans aren’t all dense.

Plus I was responding to Lovie777.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

3. But that's not what I read here?

I thought the Dems sacrificed all the Ukrainians to Putin and gave themselves a raise?
At least that’s what I read here….

[bigtree]

5. we'll fight for Ukraine another day

...Dems made certain our own government is funded.

[InstantGratification]

29. No they didn't sacrifice Ukrainians. (at least not yet)

This was a simple "continuing resolution". Sometimes called a "stop gap spending bill". This bill keeps the gov running for another 45 days (at current spending levels) to give more time to negotiate a final spending bill. Yeah, it didn't include any additional funds for Ukraine beyond what has already been allocated, but it also dropped the Republican demand to cut SS benefits and other nonsense.

Summary: this is NOT the final bill, this just keeps the lights on for 6 weeks to allow negotiations to continue. Nobody has been abandoned yet.


Hopefully the extra 6 weeks of Republican dysfunctional antics further erodes their support in the public's eye and makes their bargaining position even weaker than it is now.

[Walleye]

4. I love this guy, his calm demeanor was reassuring to me throughout the whole thing

And what an orator, I was just lamenting the absence of Senator Ted Kennedy

[leftieNanner]

7. I know she doesn't deserve the clicks...

(Because that's entirely what she lives for), but I wonder what MTG said in her "tantrum".

Love AOC, Love Hakeem. We have a serious A team!

[bigtree]

9. not worth it

...she was vile and hateful.

Surprisingly, enough.

[leftieNanner]

13. Hmmm. Vile and hateful

No new tricks for her.

[angrychair]

10. Well, no everyone

Ukraine and Europe, got screwed.

[bigtree]

14. not really

...imagine holding up funding for our own government over Ukraine funding.

Republicans weren't going to vote for it today. We'll have the exact same fight tomorrow without putting out govt. funding at risk, and not taking the bait to get blamed for holding up that funding over Ukraine.

Besides:

Andrew Desiderio @AndrewDesiderio · 57m
White House response: “We fully expect Speaker McCarthy—who has stated his support for funding to support Ukraine in its fight against Russia’s illegal and unjustified war of aggression—will bring a separate bill to the floor shortly.”

[angrychair]

18. So we're taking

McCarthy's word now?
Republicans in both the House and Senate are on the record for being against Ukraine funding.

[bigtree]

21. no

...they'll have this fight another day, without putting the nation's funding at risk - like republicans did.

[Bev54]

17. It is only a CR for 45 days, so they can then do the job of getting a real budget passed

[angrychair]

19. They ve

Had literally months. It's not like it snuck up on them

[Bev54]

22. I don't disagree, it will either be the senate or the house dems that will get the job done.

They needed McCarthy to learn a lesson, and that is he is never going to get anywhere with the extreme Maga members and that there is a lot of other republicans that want to get the job done.

[bigtree]

23. the WH and McCarthy already had an agreement that he was unable to sell to the maga caucus

...this isn't some Democratic fault, or the WH's, although you're angling hard to make it so.

[angrychair]

24. No

It's not a D or R thing. Congress has exposed a crack in the armor.
Republicans has shown that Ukraine funding has its limits.
To think that Russia and Republicans are not going to exploit that is lying to yourself.

My concern is that they've exposed that, make the deal sweet enough, some are willing to sell Ukrainians out if it's the right deal.

[bigtree]

25. best of luck with all of that

...I'm putting faith and interest in what funding proponents here in the U.S. will do, are saying they will do.

I'm not putting any expectations on what Putin will do, and not really seeing that as an obstacle to anything Ukraine-related in the U.S..

And I don't think you have any of that you posited correct. Just sayin'.

[bucolic_frolic]

11. eMpTy Greene threw a tantrum? Can't she understand she's not in the majority?

[ShazzieB]

12. She know she's not in the majority, and that pisses her off.

That's why she threw a tantrum!

[PortTack]

15. I just love Hakeem!!

[Wounded Bear]

16. He's gonna make one helluva Speaker of the House in 2025...

[wnylib]

20. Oh yeah. Between Jeffries, AOC, Raskin, and Crockett,

plus several more, we've got some really OUTSTANDING people in the House.

[Puppyjive]

26. Social security

Let me tell you a few things about social security. The agency is underfunded. The job is extremely complicated and new hires quit because they can't learn the systems with the current training programs. Employees are quitting in droves and the current workload is left to those who remain. Who in the hell do the republicans think is going to manage the agency? This is a warning to all. Shit on social security and the repubs will never get re elected. Social Security is one of our most important social safety nets in the history of our democracy. I am angry. There is an easy to fix to shoring up the trust fund, but oh no. Nobody listens.

[TlalocW]

27. If anyone finds video of MTG throwing a tantrum after the vote

Please post it. I could use some schadenfreude.