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NowISeetheLight

(4,002 posts)
Sat Sep 30, 2023, 08:37 PM Sep 2023

OMG - Offensive Opera!!!!

North Carolina radio station plans to reject broadcasts of 'inappropriate' Met operas

The operas were written by black and hispanic people and/or feature an LGBT character. Oh the horror!!!!!

https://www.npr.org/2023/09/29/1202425600/met-opera-wcpe-north-carolina

Damn fascists!
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OMG - Offensive Opera!!!! (Original Post) NowISeetheLight Sep 2023 OP
I used to know someone who sighed ALL THE TIME. It got really irritating. Now, that is increasingly hlthe2b Sep 2023 #1
But operas about female sexual assault written by white guys, vlyons Sep 2023 #2
Like Book Bans NowISeetheLight Sep 2023 #3
Next thing you know sdfernando Sep 2023 #6
"I am the last line of defense between our children and dodecaphony!!" hatrack Oct 2023 #12
I have seen "The Hours" and "Fire Shut Up In My Bones," Ocelot II Sep 2023 #4
So I guess Porgy and Bess gets banned too vlyons Sep 2023 #7
But "Porgy and Bess" was written by a White guy, so it's OK. Ocelot II Sep 2023 #8
But Gershwin was a Jew, so does that count as being white? vlyons Sep 2023 #9
Harper Valley PTA struggle4progress Sep 2023 #5
How do they feel about the incest in Die Walkure? Incest seems kind of "inappropriate" wackadoo wabbit Oct 2023 #10
Lots of incest in the Ring. Siegmund and Sieglinde are the twin children of Wotan. Ocelot II Oct 2023 #13
Oooh, you're right! I'd totally forgotten that Brunnhilde and Siegfriend were aunt and nephew wackadoo wabbit Oct 2023 #18
Well, I guess Salome's off the air, given that it's about necrophilia . . . hatrack Oct 2023 #11
It is going to be awfully quiet on those air waves... Hugin Oct 2023 #14
Opera is rife with murder, adultery, suicide, rape, infanticide, incest, Ocelot II Oct 2023 #15
Just like the Bible. (In their minds) Hugin Oct 2023 #17
Wait, what's this "radio" of which you speak? gulliver Oct 2023 #16
Narn Opera? (a very few will get this 😁 ) electric_blue68 Oct 2023 #19

hlthe2b

(113,971 posts)
1. I used to know someone who sighed ALL THE TIME. It got really irritating. Now, that is increasingly
Sat Sep 30, 2023, 08:42 PM
Sep 2023

ME...

These a'holes...

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
2. But operas about female sexual assault written by white guys,
Sat Sep 30, 2023, 08:50 PM
Sep 2023

those are OK. Ya know, stuff like Don Giovanni, Marriage of Figaro, Tosca, Rigaletto, etc. -- those are OK.

I guess it never occurred to them that no one is forcing them to listen to any particular opera broadcast, but who gives them the right to decide what other people in NC can and can't listen too?
Compliments of the "Freedom" party.

I am so tired of these ignorant asshole bigots. They wouldn't recognize art if it sat in their laps.

NowISeetheLight

(4,002 posts)
3. Like Book Bans
Sat Sep 30, 2023, 08:55 PM
Sep 2023

It's like the book bans in schools. They're not giving parents choice but inflicting their fascist hate on everyone. No one is forcing people to listen to opera.

Ocelot II

(130,536 posts)
4. I have seen "The Hours" and "Fire Shut Up In My Bones,"
Sat Sep 30, 2023, 09:16 PM
Sep 2023

and I will be seeing Dead Man Walking via the Met's HD broadcast in a few weeks. Dead Man Walking begins with a rape, but so does Mozart's Don Giovanni - and I recently saw a production of that opera that depicted the assault of Donna Anna pretty graphically. The Hours is based on Virginia Woolf's book Mrs. Dalloway, but OMG there's a gay character! And Fire Shut Up In My Bones is all about Black people and has an all-Black cast, and we can't have that, can we? All of these productions were first-rate performances of first-rate works, but this troglodyte radio station is afraid children will be exposed to these terrible things (how many children listen to opera broadcasts on the radio?). The horror, the horror....

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
7. So I guess Porgy and Bess gets banned too
Sat Sep 30, 2023, 10:05 PM
Sep 2023

How many thousands of renditions of Summertime have been recorded? Well ya can't listen or play that one any more. And while we're banning black music, I guess blues, jazz, motown, black gospel, and rocknroll gotta go too.

and gay musicians -- Queen & Freddie Mercury, Ricky Martin, Elton John, Melissa Etheridge, Dusty Springfield, ---

There were gay classical composers that get banned too, like Handel (sigh, no more Messiah & Halleluia Chorus), Benjamin Brittain, Franz Schubert, Saint-Saëns, Lully, Tchaikovsky (sigh no more Swan Lake), Copeland (sigh, no more Appalachian Spring), AND NO MORE COLE PORTER!!!

All complements of the "Freedom" party.

Do you see how stupid this all is?

Ocelot II

(130,536 posts)
8. But "Porgy and Bess" was written by a White guy, so it's OK.
Sat Sep 30, 2023, 10:18 PM
Sep 2023

Handel and the other classical composers were mostly safe in their closets, so we can still hear their music without worrying about what it would do to the children; It's when they're out that the "Freedom" party idiots start getting the vapors. And Black musicians can do their music as long as they're not too Black about it. It's kind of like how Black athletes can do sports and everybody loves them as long as they don't do something Black, like speak out for civil rights.

It's all transcendentally ridiculous.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
9. But Gershwin was a Jew, so does that count as being white?
Sat Sep 30, 2023, 11:08 PM
Sep 2023

it's just all so stupid. I guess I'm getting a mite vexed about all this stupid bigotry. I don't like being told what I can read, watch, and listen to. Who are they to tell us what is or isn't art, culture, meaningful? I'm not forcing them to like what I like. They all need to go eat a bug and get over it!

wackadoo wabbit

(1,296 posts)
10. How do they feel about the incest in Die Walkure? Incest seems kind of "inappropriate"
Sun Oct 1, 2023, 07:27 AM
Oct 2023

Or is it OK since it occurred between a white brother and sister, and the opera itself was written by a white dude?

(For the record, I'm not dissing Wagner here; I think that he wrote the finest operas ever.)

Ocelot II

(130,536 posts)
13. Lots of incest in the Ring. Siegmund and Sieglinde are the twin children of Wotan.
Sun Oct 1, 2023, 11:52 AM
Oct 2023

Siegmund gets horizontal with Sieglinde, and Siegfried is their child. Brunnhilde, Siegfried's lover, is also Wotan's daughter and therefore Siegfried's aunt. You'd think that whole crowd would be horribly inbred but I guess it doesn't matter for gods, at least white ones.

wackadoo wabbit

(1,296 posts)
18. Oooh, you're right! I'd totally forgotten that Brunnhilde and Siegfriend were aunt and nephew
Sun Oct 1, 2023, 07:33 PM
Oct 2023

Good catch!

Hugin

(37,848 posts)
14. It is going to be awfully quiet on those air waves...
Sun Oct 1, 2023, 11:56 AM
Oct 2023

Almost every opera features a fat person cross dressing near the end.

Ocelot II

(130,536 posts)
15. Opera is rife with murder, adultery, suicide, rape, infanticide, incest,
Sun Oct 1, 2023, 12:02 PM
Oct 2023

and a fair amount of cross-dressing (women singing the roles of male characters and vice-versa), but it's OK with a certain radio station because the composers are white and mostly not gay.

Hugin

(37,848 posts)
17. Just like the Bible. (In their minds)
Sun Oct 1, 2023, 12:11 PM
Oct 2023

How will they know? Is there like an online registry of operas certified as written by white males who weren’t gay? I’m guessing that play list is very short and might not even include Wagner.

gulliver

(13,985 posts)
16. Wait, what's this "radio" of which you speak?
Sun Oct 1, 2023, 12:10 PM
Oct 2023

Can someone get me a YouTube link on what "radio" is?

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