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kpete

(72,902 posts)
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 06:14 PM Oct 2023

KELLY: "There is nothing more that can be said. God help us."

“John Kelly, the longest-serving White House chief of staff for Donald Trump, offered his harshest criticism yet of the former president, CNN reports.

Said Kelly: “What can I add that has not already been said? A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.”

He added: “A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women,” Kelly continued. “A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. A person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war should lose his life for treason – in expectation that someone will take action. A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.”

He concluded: “There is nothing more that can be said. God help us.”

https://politicalwire.com/2023/10/02/john-kelly-sets-the-record-straight-on-trump/

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KELLY: "There is nothing more that can be said. God help us." (Original Post) kpete Oct 2023 OP
Thanks for speaking up in a timely manner, General Kelly. LuckyCharms Oct 2023 #1
+1000 sybylla Oct 2023 #20
agree republianmushroom Oct 2023 #38
True, but at least it's not the usual, he did a lot good things, butttt. Yoyoyo77 Oct 2023 #54
Fuck Kelly. He knew Trump was a snake when he went to work for him. Ray Bruns Oct 2023 #60
But... but...he owns the Libs and the RINOs! Frasier Balzov Oct 2023 #2
When his ox (the military) is gored marybourg Oct 2023 #3
Yup he was right by trump's side mercuryblues Oct 2023 #12
👆🏽👆🏽 This! 👆🏽👆🏽 IrishAfricanAmerican Oct 2023 #21
Absolutely! paleotn Oct 2023 #36
This 👆🏼 UpInArms Oct 2023 #58
He was, but not Milley. paleotn Oct 2023 #35
Did you intend to reply to me? marybourg Oct 2023 #42
I may have misunderstood your post. Apologies if that's the case. paleotn Oct 2023 #43
OK, but it's a little concerning to me marybourg Oct 2023 #45
Not that big of a deal. paleotn Oct 2023 #47
Sorry, John Kelly is no angel.. agingdem Oct 2023 #4
Was he in charge when they sent the immigrant women to be sterilized in Georgia? Bluethroughu Oct 2023 #9
THIS malaise Oct 2023 #10
Like Cassidy Hutchinson... agingdem Oct 2023 #18
From now until they get a gig from. M$Greedia 😀 malaise Oct 2023 #23
Agreed inthewind21 Oct 2023 #63
Never forget. NEVER. calimary Oct 2023 #67
Former trump guys salivating at the offer of power...now have regrets...what changed?? Not the man. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #11
they didn't change.. agingdem Oct 2023 #26
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2023 #32
Trump holds everyone in complete contempt. Boomerproud Oct 2023 #5
But you still took the coins, Judas, didn't you? Conjuay Oct 2023 #6
why isn't this, ALONE, enough to cost millions of votes?? nt wiggs Oct 2023 #7
I don't get it either. The '20 election shouldn't have been so close. oldsoftie Oct 2023 #13
because this is exactly what his voters want mike_c Oct 2023 #14
It used to be said on DU that the only thing they would abandon him for is if his tax wiggs Oct 2023 #49
That's been the difficult thing, for me...realizing how many misogynists, racists, xenophobes, wiggs Oct 2023 #51
Hillary tried to tell us, but she was disparaged by the media. triron Oct 2023 #52
deplorable. nt wiggs Oct 2023 #53
She inthewind21 Oct 2023 #65
I hate to break it to you inthewind21 Oct 2023 #64
Was just gonna post. Absolutely remarkable. Dems hire THIS man! Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2023 #8
WHAT?! ZZenith Oct 2023 #16
OMG can't admit when a low-life R speaks truth? Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2023 #50
OMG can't admit when a low-life R tries to cover his ass? ret5hd Oct 2023 #55
:). Read that when Kelly was around he kept tight control Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2023 #69
Unfortunately, he was OK with it while it was happening. paleotn Oct 2023 #40
This Navy vet wonders what took him so long. Permanut Oct 2023 #15
exactly ProfessorPlum Oct 2023 #62
Because they love his evil policies and ideology Bluesaph Oct 2023 #17
Gen. Kelly cactuslady Oct 2023 #19
Right you are - Frederica Wilson. yorkster Oct 2023 #66
This needs to be heard far and wide SouthernDem4ever Oct 2023 #22
Someone who matters finally said the truth aloud. Joinfortmill Oct 2023 #24
He knows exactly who and what has damaged our country. Kid Berwyn Oct 2023 #25
Nice try at faux atonement. What a useless enabler. Evolve Dammit Oct 2023 #27
Is he selling a book? JoseBalow Oct 2023 #28
That was my 1st thought. rubbersole Oct 2023 #29
Always starts with a Redemption Tour JoseBalow Oct 2023 #37
And what can be said for a person who willingly worked with an asshole like that... Caliman73 Oct 2023 #30
Kelly certainly knew how Trump ridiculed all POWs (captured). keithbvadu2 Oct 2023 #31
John Kelly - Complicit! FSogol Oct 2023 #33
You really mean that Kelly? mnmoderatedem Oct 2023 #34
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2023 #39
Kelly is simply saying . . . Aussie105 Oct 2023 #41
Yea... Snackshack Oct 2023 #44
I remember kelly covering for trump ecstatic Oct 2023 #46
No words orangecrush Oct 2023 #48
Trump is basically just a glorified insult comic. Initech Oct 2023 #56
I believe that people can do wrong, learn that it was wrong, and change. soldierant Oct 2023 #57
Thanks for the heads-up. prodigitalson Oct 2023 #59
I suspect Trump's disdain for the military is a cover for his cowardice in escaping service through Martin68 Oct 2023 #61
Yes, Dog help us. SergeStorms Oct 2023 #68
The harm trump has done to America is incalcuable Demovictory9 Oct 2023 #70

sybylla

(8,655 posts)
20. +1000
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 07:25 PM
Oct 2023

"OMG! God help us! Blah, blah, blah! Someone do something!" Feck off Kelly.

All these turdblossoms waited until they were safe and sound after the election to come out and speak up. I am so effing tired of the mea culpa circuit in which the media lets them skate with zero apologies.

marybourg

(13,640 posts)
3. When his ox (the military) is gored
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 06:18 PM
Oct 2023

then he see the evil. Before that, he was fine with selling his soul.

mercuryblues

(16,411 posts)
12. Yup he was right by trump's side
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 06:49 PM
Oct 2023

when he was insulting Gold Star families.

General John Kelly said he was "broken-hearted" by the Democrat's criticism of the president's condolence call to Sgt La David Johnson's wife.

Sgt Johnson was one of four killed in Niger by Islamist militants this month.

Gen Kelly also said he did not receive a call from President Barack Obama when his son died in Afghanistan in 2010.

https://www.newsweek.com/frederica-wilson-johnson-trump-call-687810



^^^^^Except that part he left out about sitting at the head table, with the Obamas, at a luncheon to honor Gold Star families.^^^^

IOW he lied to protect trump.

Not just once, but several times. He racially insulted Rep Fredricka Wilson and spread lies about her. He couldn't bend over fast enough to kiss trump's ass.


FUCK HIM. He has no honor.


paleotn

(22,212 posts)
35. He was, but not Milley.
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 08:33 PM
Oct 2023

And not a number of others in uniform or formerly in uniform. Me included. Careful with the wide brush.

marybourg

(13,640 posts)
45. OK, but it's a little concerning to me
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 09:20 PM
Oct 2023

that I’m communicating so poorly as to have elicited a criticism that does not seem to relate to what I thought I wrote. Maybe I’m past it. It could be. I think I’ll just read from now on.

paleotn

(22,212 posts)
47. Not that big of a deal.
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 09:52 PM
Oct 2023

When I scan I sometimes miss the true meaning. My error not yours.

agingdem

(8,849 posts)
4. Sorry, John Kelly is no angel..
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 06:26 PM
Oct 2023

he was Secretary of Homeland Security when he said DHS was considering separating families/separating children from their parents...he was Trump's chief of staff when the DHS implemented the separation policy...

John Kelly knew what Trump was when he accepted the chief of staff position...that Kelly didn't know the depth of Trump's depravity, his callous disregard for human life, is on him...

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
9. Was he in charge when they sent the immigrant women to be sterilized in Georgia?
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 06:46 PM
Oct 2023

It wasn't even OB-GYN.

agingdem

(8,849 posts)
18. Like Cassidy Hutchinson...
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 07:12 PM
Oct 2023

she “adored” Trump but was a tinge disillusioned after January 6…and yet didn’t resign…

Bill Barr says Trump’s claims of a rigged election were “bullshit”…and, yet, he weaponized the DOJ to punish Trump’s perceived enemies and buried the Mueller Report…

so now all the former Trump “employees” can mea culpa from now until the end of time..they were complicit in the horror that was Trump’s presidency…

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
63. Agreed
Tue Oct 3, 2023, 11:45 AM
Oct 2023

However, they sure have an adoring following right here. Cassidy Hutchison, Liz Cheney, Nicole Wallace. And people wonder just how we got here!

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
11. Former trump guys salivating at the offer of power...now have regrets...what changed?? Not the man.
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 06:49 PM
Oct 2023

agingdem

(8,849 posts)
26. they didn't change..
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 07:41 PM
Oct 2023

Trump bad-mouthed them and then forced them to resign or he fired them ..not exactly noble on their part..

Boomerproud

(9,292 posts)
5. Trump holds everyone in complete contempt.
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 06:32 PM
Oct 2023

That should have bothered John Kelly but it didn't. I could care less what he says.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
13. I don't get it either. The '20 election shouldn't have been so close.
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 06:51 PM
Oct 2023

trump should've lost several more states.

mike_c

(37,051 posts)
14. because this is exactly what his voters want
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 06:54 PM
Oct 2023

Broken government validates their grievances, and TFG promises to break it, stomp on the pieces, then burn them to ash. One hundred percent validation. That is what they hunger for.

The only way to stop these people is to make them happy and content in their lives, even as they work harder against anything that might resolve their grievances. They know TFG will destroy democracy-- that's just more validation of their grievances.

Honestly, I wrestle with how far to pursue this reasoning on DU, but I really do believe that the only solution is to somehow shake the right wing base from their grievances and make them happy with government and American society as it is. And to examine our own grievances as well, and ask whether clinging to them really serves the country or not.

wiggs

(8,812 posts)
49. It used to be said on DU that the only thing they would abandon him for is if his tax
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 10:14 PM
Oct 2023

returns revealed he wasn't really as wealthy as advertised. A fake. I believed that then...don't now.

They are with him because there's something wrong with them. And that's a difficult hill to climb, to change things.

wiggs

(8,812 posts)
51. That's been the difficult thing, for me...realizing how many misogynists, racists, xenophobes,
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 10:16 PM
Oct 2023

homophobes, and assholes there are in our country. Before 2016...I had no idea.

ret5hd

(22,502 posts)
55. OMG can't admit when a low-life R tries to cover his ass?
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 11:09 PM
Oct 2023

Fixed that small typo.

You're welcome.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
69. :). Read that when Kelly was around he kept tight control
Tue Oct 3, 2023, 04:02 PM
Oct 2023

of classified docs in WH. We are at such an incredible low with trump I choose people who have modicon of sense. Once we reach equilibrium we can start looking for perfect people again .

paleotn

(22,212 posts)
40. Unfortunately, he was OK with it while it was happening.
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 08:47 PM
Oct 2023

When there's "blood in the water", i.e. Donnie the Dumbass is out of favor, he's all about joining the feeding frenzy. A man lacking in honor in my mind. Particularly with respect to combat casualties.

Permanut

(8,390 posts)
15. This Navy vet wonders what took him so long.
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 06:55 PM
Oct 2023

Everything he said has been obvious for years here at DU.

Locking the barn after the horse has been stolen is useless General Kelly.

Bluesaph

(1,026 posts)
17. Because they love his evil policies and ideology
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 07:05 PM
Oct 2023

And that took precedence. Now that they got their SCOTUS and their judges it’s safe to speak out.

Too little and WAY TOO EFFING LATE!

cactuslady

(17 posts)
19. Gen. Kelly
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 07:13 PM
Oct 2023

Mercury Blues said it all, Kelly lied and never apologized to the congress woman from Florida.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
30. And what can be said for a person who willingly worked with an asshole like that...
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 08:06 PM
Oct 2023

and only speaks up in retrospect YEARS after that asshole tried to foment a coup and continues to put lives at risk, and is trying to be elected again so that he will NEVER give up power again?

What do you say about a person like that, willing to lick that asshole's boots for several years and go along with his schemes?

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
31. Kelly certainly knew how Trump ridiculed all POWs (captured).
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 08:07 PM
Oct 2023

Many vets are now calling Chief of Staff John Kelly (retired 4 star general) a 'blue falcon'.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blue%20falcon

mnmoderatedem

(3,907 posts)
34. You really mean that Kelly?
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 08:24 PM
Oct 2023

Are you really mortified by trump?

Then get your ass out there and campaign feverishly for Biden. It's the least you can do.

Aussie105

(7,920 posts)
41. Kelly is simply saying . . .
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 09:07 PM
Oct 2023

that he has unwound the Trump cultism in his own mind and is seeing things more clearly now.

Doesn't let him off the hook though, nor should it.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
46. I remember kelly covering for trump
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 09:25 PM
Oct 2023

when trump was attacking a black gold star family, and then kelly also had a nasty (racist?) interaction with congresswoman Frederica Wilson after she stood up for that family.

Kelly is trying to clean his image up, and I love his current words, but I haven't forgotten who he really is. He is racist, maga trash just like everyone else who served in the trump mal-administration.

soldierant

(9,354 posts)
57. I believe that people can do wrong, learn that it was wrong, and change.
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 11:37 PM
Oct 2023

But I also believe [people claiming to do so shold be received with caution, Dismissing them out of habd helps no one but it can't beautomatically assumed that the change is real and permanent wither.

I suggest giving him rope, as it were.

Martin68

(27,741 posts)
61. I suspect Trump's disdain for the military is a cover for his cowardice in escaping service through
Tue Oct 3, 2023, 10:50 AM
Oct 2023

medical fraud. He hates them because they make him look bad.

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