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BOSSHOG

(44,738 posts)
1. Crazy thought
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 09:53 PM
Oct 2023

Did she pass on the jury on purpose? Those in trumps orbit do stupid stuff. Then again, maybe she hates the sumbitch like we do.

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
6. Maybe on purpose to give him an excuse to ask for another trial?
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 11:14 PM
Oct 2023

Maybe she got paid to do it?

TexasBushwhacker

(21,204 posts)
7. Either that or they thought his chances were better with the judge
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 11:19 PM
Oct 2023

Isn't Trump loathed by most people in NY, including many Republicans? What's the likelihood they could find 12 jurors who would acquit him?

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
9. Yes...
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 11:24 PM
Oct 2023

Or maybe this game was to roll the dice see if they got a favorable judge, if not he complain his incompetent lawyers did not do what he said, so give him a jury trial.

Then, he'll claim he won they had nothing, until they put that together the new trial by jury. Just another stall tactic.

NJCher

(43,181 posts)
12. I don't see it that way
Tue Oct 3, 2023, 12:20 AM
Oct 2023

this particular case is documented on paper. He goes to a bank to apply for a loan. It is documented on paper what he tells them it is worth.

He files taxes. To lower his taxes, he documents on paper what that very same property is worth: much less than what he told his bank to get a loan.

This is why no one is making a big deal out of the incompetence of his attorney--because it's neither here nor there.

He didn't play these games with just one property. He did it over and over and over again. So not only did he document that he's an effing liar on paper, he showed a pattern of it.

Yeah, he can try to get another trial (I have my doubts that he will be able to find anyone to file that suit) but it will be a total waste of time.

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
14. Oh I agree completely, and then gets in front of the cameras and says they are worth 10 more.
Tue Oct 3, 2023, 09:28 AM
Oct 2023

He's busted for fraud, but he'll drag this out anyway possible.

calimary

(90,067 posts)
13. Maybe she's frowning because she's learned how lousy he is
Tue Oct 3, 2023, 12:21 AM
Oct 2023

at paying his bills. He’ll wind up telling her and the rest of the team they did a lousy job and he’s not paying because they were supposed to make this annoying new problem go away.

Ocelot II

(130,568 posts)
4. Maybe they weren't entitled to a jury trial, or maybe to a bifurcated trial.
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 10:20 PM
Oct 2023

The case seems to be at least in part an action in equity, meaning it's a claim that can't be remedied by money damages. Instead, it requests that the Trump Org be placed in receivership, and the receiver takes over the business and decides which assets are to be sold and the funds disgorged to the state, creditors, and any left over back to TFG and his spawn. In most states equitable actions aren't tried to a jury, although maybe in this case a jury could decide how much money needs to be disgorged from the business. Usually a jury hears cases where they have to decide money damages, and this isn't technically a damages trial. I don't know specifically what NY law says about this. In any event, even if he could have had a jury decide all or part of the case, he didn't ask for it - maybe intentionally or maybe incompetently.

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