Why Trump Showed Up At The Civil Trial

[gab13by13]

People are getting it wrong. The MSM is getting it wrong. Trump isn't campaigning, that is secondary. Trump is using the only defense he has, the same defense he is using in all his prosecutions, intimidate and threaten.

If this had been a jury trial, Trump would not be at the trial. Trump is at the trial threatening the judge.

Trump is telling the judge that if he comes down hard on him, he will unleash his unwashed Magats.

I bet the judge knows why Trump is in the courtroom.

Trump is also attacking the judge because it will be one of his only defenses when he appeals; the judge was prejudiced.

Trump uses the mob boss defense. When he publicly says to the judge that "people should do something," "people" know what Trump means. As Trump once said, they let me get away with it. I will say, E. Jean Carroll didn't let him get away with it.

[gab13by13]

5. No one said they would storm the courthouse.

I guarantee that the judge understands the threats he is facing.

[Lonestarblue]

14. Most judges likely suspect that Trump has ties to the New York mafia as well as the Russian Mafia.

While it may be nothing more than conspiracy thinking, I believe that either Trump or another person who associated with Epstein had him murdered.

[Scrivener7]

20. I fully believe the only reason Rudy was able

to take down the one crime family back in the day was because he was working with another crime family. And the trump circle's ties to Russia are overt and plentiful.

[mopinko]

31. did it at their behest.

[Omnipresent]

22. I hope he does, and isn't intimidated.

Tfg gets away with too much.

[niyad]

28. Please stop using slurs against women as synonyms for cowardice.

[NoSheep]

32. This.

[whathehell]

55. Thank you!

I am SO sick of that.

[niyad]

29. Please stop using slurs against women as synonyms for cowardice.

[Omnipresent]

35. My comment wasn't intended as a slur against women.

Both men and women use that, to describe someone as cowardly.

[niyad]

45. Just because there are clueless women who use that misogynistic word

does NOT change the fact that it is a gendered slur. Nor does "but ***I*** did not mean it THAT way" Reallllly? Then why use the word that way? What, exactly, DOES one mean, then?

It is very disappointing to see such language, and such justifications for that language, anywhere.

[whathehell]

56. It IS a slur against women..

regardless of your personal intent.

[MineralMan]

42. Nice misogynistic name calling.

Please rethink your post.

[Quakerfriend]

2. I kept wondering why he was permitted to 'hold a press conference' inside

the courthouse during the break?!

[Omnipresent]

26. +1

[Irish_Dem]

3. Trump also physically intimidated the prosecuting attorney.

In the courtroom walked right up to her, stood very close, and gave her a menacing look.
Why is that allowed?

[Escurumbele]

10. Exactly...It should not be allowed. I don't understand why so many people are afraid to do the

right thing. Gag order, penalties, jail...period!

[Aviation Pro]

44. When my mind wanders

I think the right thing would be to deliver a throat punch to that waddled turkey neck and after he collapses to the floor a double stomp to the groin.

[leftyladyfrommo]

48. Because he threatens their homes and family. And he

means it. And his wacko groupies would kill people.

But his wacko buddies don't seem to be reacting much so far. They really don't want to end up in jail for 5 years for a guy who could care less.

[ancianita]

51. Because jurisprudence doesn't check American constitutional 1A rights outside the courthouse door.

It has to be proven that such communications foment/incite violence -- and the only way that can be proven is for cameras to actually see violent perpetrators say that P01135809 called them to do it.

Otherwise, "a gag order, penalties, jail" could overturn P01135809 whole trial. It's that simple.

Getting what you want will get P01135809 exactly what he wants -- a mistrial. Delay. Coming out the champion in his war against rule of law.

[Irish_Dem]

54. Nope,the judges have been afraid and lazy.

Refusing to their jobs.
Trump is out on bail and inciting violence.

The judges are going to get someone killed.
And it will be on them for refusing to enforce
Conditions of bail.

[malaise]

4. intimidate and threaten

THIS

Time to stop this effries - lock him up!

[gab13by13]

7. At first I was upset that judge Chutkan

gave Trump 3 weeks to come up with an argument for why she shouldn't gag him, but the more I think about it, that was a smart move.

If judge Chutkan had immediately put a gag order on Trump he would have appealed it. Now, when Trump keeps on with his threats leading up to October 16th's hearing there will be concrete evidence to bring before the Appeals court to gag Trump.

Judge Chutkan warned Trump to stop his threats and sad for me to say, but I hope he keeps threatening people right up to Oct. 16, he is asking to be gagged, or maybe even worse? Nah.

[malaise]

16. She gave him the rope

to hang himself. Please proceed Slobby!

[Beachnutt]

50. I hope she is watching his hallway rants

and threats to the judge.

[rubbersole]

8. I'll bet it eventually happens in GA.

He'll get some court ordered restrictions that he just can't abide by an be incarcerated. I can't imagine what form that would take, but it should shut him up. If he really even spent a day in the Fulton County Jail, the fear alone could possibly be the only thing that works.

[UpInArms]

15. I hope they have 15 BIG security personnel

Standing by to rise up and physically block him from moving toward anyone

[jcgoldie]

6. he's campaigning

Thats why he stood outside the courtroom bullshitting for cameras for 15 minutes then did it again at lunch break. Trump wants to fight all of his battles in the media where bullshit works, not in the courtroom where actual evidence is expected.

[gab13by13]

11. Why would he be campaigning when he has the nomination locked up?

He could say what he said without going to the trial.

Trump is not campaigning, he is using the only defense he has, the mob boss defense. He is sitting in that courtroom staring at the judge sending the message if the judge comes down hard on him, he will unleash his Magats.

Trump said it, "people need to do something about this corrupt judge." The judge has to consider this, he has 24/7 police protection for a reason.

[MuchBetterThanThis]

17. Why would he be campaigning now?

He’s campaigning for the general election NOW. He’s trying to position himself as a victim of the “deep state” , and therefore appeal to those that believe that bullshit in all parties.

[gab13by13]

21. He didn't have to physically go to the courtroom to campaign.

He physically went to the courtroom to stare down the judge.

When he went outside the courtroom what did he say? He threatened the judge.

In my younger days I took on big coal and big gas people who wanted to strip coal and frac gas on our watershed. At every council meeting there was a goon squad who sat right behind my chair at the council meeting. Yes I got death threats and spent many sleepless nights. I can relate to what Trump is doing.

[malaise]

18. He is simply daring them to lock him up - that is what he wants

You are correct- he literally tried to intimidate the New York AG. This was the same shit he did to Hillary at that debate.
Lock him the fuck up.
As usual, the Slobfather is playing smart but not being clever- Jusge Chutkan and Jack smith’s Small Axe is coming for him and soon. That is why he loses at everything.

[jcgoldie]

24. he's not campaigning for president

He's campaigning for $$$$$. Same as always. The attacks on the judge aren't going to intimidate him, they are designed to make Trump look like a poor persecuted martyr... PLEASE SEND MONEY!

[Omnipresent]

30. This!!

Ding! Ding! Ding!

[Escurumbele]

9. The bottom line is that a gag order to shut the jackass up should be issued, and enforce

consequences when he breaks the order. He keeps doing it because no one is serious about punishing the guy. Start by placing a gag order, make him pay millions of dollars in fines, use all the tools the law provides to shutting up, jail him if he continues to break the orders. It is really that simple, the law has the tools, use them!

[SouthernDem4ever]

12. THIS!

[gab13by13]

13. Give judge Chutkan some time,

she is doing the right thing, she will put a gag order in place once the ducks are in a row. Listen to me defending ducks in a row.😊

[Emile]

19. He showed up to invite violence from his magat base.

[Scrivener7]

23. Ding, ding, ding.

But I don't think his base is willing any more.

[onetexan]

25. This judge isn't threatened by his shenanigans

& all the Con's doing is digging himself a deeper hole. Hopefully it w swallow him whole.

[Raftergirl]

27. Ridiculous.

Neither the Judge or the AG are intimidated by Donald being in the courtroom.

[gab13by13]

37. The judge is a human being,

he has 24/7 police protection for a reason.

[True Blue American]

33. Mockery is a good comeback

To nasty attacks and the judge was laughing when Trump was already 9 minutes late to Court then spent another 10 calling everyone names, including the Judge.

That told me all I wanted to know.” Have your fun boy, but when I am through with you you will not know what hit you!” That Judge has handled worse than a 2 year old tough guy mobster wanta e!

[mopinko]

34. what u say is true, but it's also true that he is campaigning.

i think e jean made him look very, very bad. he couldnt afford to duck another trial.
his image is melting before his eyes. he had to do this. had to prove he wasnt a coward. (impossible)

he’s trying to make shinola from shit, cuz otherwise he has to just eat it.

[Happy Hoosier]

36. He wanted the Courthouse steps rants.

He wants to testify without being cross-examined... to make claims that are not immediately debunked.

His audience is his base. These rants will be played over and over on right-wing media. The actual, sober proceedings will not be.

[keithbvadu2]

38. There was a cartoon of Trump 'almost' calling for execution of those who cross him.

There was a cartoon of Trump 'almost' calling for execution of those who cross him.

In the shadows was a sinister follower with his rifle and saying something like 'on it sir' or 'standing by'.

[gab13by13]

41. He threatened General Milley with execution.

Milley is going to be a witness in another trial. Good luck intimidating him.

[617Blue]

39. Because Alina Habba makes him all tingly nt

[gab13by13]

40. Yes, there is more than one reason why Trump physically showed up

when he didn't have to. He didn't show for the E. Jean Carroll trial.

I am just saying that the main reason is to intimidate the judge.

Another reason not mentioned yet is to try to influence the Appeals court that the judge is prejudiced against him.

All of the other reasons given here are valid, but #1 reason is still his Mob boss defense since he has very little legal defense.

[Botany]

43. He (the Trump Organization) has already been found guilty on the fraud charges and these hearings ..

.... are just about the size of his civil penalties and he is making it worse for himself with stupid
actions. FAFO Going after the Judge who is going to set the penalties is not smart.

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[kwijybo]

46. It's show up here or face contempt charges

I read somewhere that he had another court action pending for today that he wanted an extension on. He told the judge he HAD to be here today, and got an extension. If he didn't show up, the other judge might charge him with contempt.

Things like this happen when you multiple court cases active.

[Darkstar53142]

47. It's an excuse ti avoid deposition...

...in his lawsuit against Michael Cohen.

He filed a lawsuit against Cohen, so Cohen was to have him deposed. This was supposed to happen this week, but cheato is using the excuse of being in the courtroom to delay it.

No matter, though, I heard it'll take place on Saturday.

[Orrex]

49. I was a juror on a murder trial a few weeks ago

The murderer chose to represent himself and was a raving, unhinged asshole from first syllable to last. He repeatedly threatened the judge and DA with lawsuits and explicitly called out their bias and persecution of him.

When the trial ended, the judge spoke to us and apologized for the murderer’s behavior, but the judge decided to let the murderer run roughshod in order to preempt the likely claim that the judge was biased.

I suspect something similar is at play here.

[Martin68]

52. If that is indeed Dump's plan, not not only is it doomed to failure, but is counter-productive.

Attempting to intimidate the judge will only stiffen the judge's resolve to hold the defendant to the letter of the law and lean towards the stiffer end of any sentencing guidelines.

[sarcasmo]

53. Intimidation