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But while Pythagoras was an important historical figure in the development of mathematics, he did not figure out the equation most associated with him (a2 + b2 = c2). In fact, there is an ancient Babylonian tablet (by the catchy name of IM 67118) which uses the Pythagorean theorem to solve the length of a diagonal inside a rectangle. The tablet, likely used for teaching, dates from 1770 BCE centuries before Pythagoras was born in around 570 BCE.
Another tablet from around 18001600 BCE has a square with labeled triangles inside. Translating the markings from base 60 the counting system used by ancient Babylonians showed that these ancient mathematicians were aware of the Pythagorean theorem (not called that, of course) as well as other advanced mathematical concepts.
"The conclusion is inescapable. The Babylonians knew the relation between the length of the diagonal of a square and its side: d=square root of 2," mathematician Bruce Ratner writes in a paper on the topic. "This was probably the first number known to be irrational. However, this in turn means that they were familiar with the Pythagorean Theorem or, at the very least, with its special case for the diagonal of a square (d2 = a2 + a2 = 2a2) more than a thousand years before the great sage for whom it was named."
So why did this get attributed to Pythagoras? No original writing from Pythagoras survives. What we know of him was passed on by others, in particular the Pythagoreans members of a school he set up in what is now modern-day southern Italy. The school, named the Semicircle of Pythagoras, was secretive, but knowledge learned there or discovered was passed on, and often attributed to the man himself.
https://www.iflscience.com/pythagorean-theorem-found-on-clay-tablet-1000-years-older-than-pythagoras-70934
I posted this in error earlier in the video forum.
underpants
(196,494 posts)Bristlecone
(11,111 posts)robbob
(3,750 posts)The Simpsons? Ghostbusters? Its driving me crazy! 😂
grumpyduck
(6,672 posts)They had time machines back then!
TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts)LymphocyteLover
(9,847 posts)Sogo
(7,191 posts)redwitch
(15,261 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(106,210 posts)A lot went on in the 1000 years between them, including the Late Bronze Age collapse, so continuity of good technical knowledge can't be assumed.
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)were especially good at synthesizing from other civilizations. They had the seamanship for trade and communication (and piracy? ), and they neighbored Asia Minor and Egypt, several cradles of technology and culture. Combine that with a gentle climate, abundant seafood, and fertile land, and you have the leisure to think, and material to think about..
Ursus Rex
(486 posts)Endless imports of culture, food, people, technology, and all the ideas that those represent. It's a great and rare strength.
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)1. Wide ocean borders, don't have to worry about Persians invading, or saturation bombing. We are the only industrial country that came out of WWII without our factories bombed. That advantage lasted for generations.
2. Lots of genocide and chattel slave labor
The Greeks used slaves, but not like we did/do (prison labor now). But yes, synthesis is a strength. The US was a refuge for many scientists fleeing first fascism, then defeat.
Martin68
(27,749 posts)aggiesal
(10,804 posts)lastlib
(28,264 posts)And those secretive terrorist groups "al-Gebra" and "Trigonom-etry"--using secret code-signs like x, y, and z......... Sounds sinister.....
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Because robbing Pythagoras of his theorem would make some present-day Floridian feel bad about himself, because for some inexplicable reason his self-image is dependent on a guy who lived two thousand years ago.
getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)Admit it.
SergeStorms
(20,591 posts)I always knew Pythagoras plagiarized ancient Babylonians. I just couldn't prove it. 🤔
The Semicircle of Pythagoras was a cult, the long lost precursors of MAGAts.
It's the truth! Look it up. 😁
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)I wouldn't compare them to MAGAts. More like the churches. It was a religious thing. Lot of cults around back then in polytheistic days. It wasn't a dirty word like now.
ailsagirl
(24,287 posts)Dr. Strange
(26,058 posts)You can't prove it using just the standard Euclidean axioms, and using just a straightedge and a compass.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Goodheart
(5,760 posts)Takket
(23,715 posts)LudwigPastorius
(14,725 posts)SCantiGOP
(14,719 posts)Pythagorus had ChatGPT.
eggplant
(4,199 posts)DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)called it Three-Four-Five.............LOL
ailsagirl
(24,287 posts)Thanks for posting
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Orrex
(67,111 posts)pecosbob
(8,386 posts)They were also responsible for stuff like our modern calendars and clocks, and the alphabet.
wnylib
(26,009 posts)relationship between the base and sides of a triangle? They started with a square base and built 4 triangles from it to meet in the center of the square at an equal height for each side. They would have had to calculate the angle of incline for each side to have the apexes of the triangles meet at the same point. .
muriel_volestrangler
(106,210 posts)of how much you need to set the next layer of blocks it to produce a stable pyramid (eg "if your block is 4 cubits high, you must set the next layer at least 3 and a quarter cubits in" or whatever).
See eg the "Bent Pyramid" from a bit earlier:

Unfortunately, the building technique that was used -a technique going back to the Step Pyramids which consisted of using inward leaning courses- did not help to stabilise this monument. Fearing that the pyramid would collapse under its own weight, its slope was lowered to 43°22' somewhere halfway up the building. It is possible that the upper part of the Bent Pyramid was continued only after finishing the Red Pyramid, which was built a couple of kilometres to the North of the Bent Pyramid. In any case, the Red Pyramid has exactly the same slope of 43°22' as the upper part of the Bent Pyramid. In its finished state, this pyramid has a base length of 188 metres and is 105 metres high.
http://www.ancient-egypt.org/history/old-kingdom/4th-dynasty/snofru/pyramids/bent-pyramid-at-dashur.html
To get the sides all to meet at a point, you just do the same thing on all 4 sides. And if they did use angles like us - measured as a fraction of a complete circle - that doesn't need Pythagoras' theorem. That only comes in when you're calculating the diagonal lengths.
Kennah
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yellowcanine
(36,792 posts)Clash City Rocker
(3,546 posts)One of the things the Greeks did well was export their language to other lands, which made it easier to teach things like the Pythagorean Theorem. So its not too surprising that Pythagoras got the credit.