Am I the only one worried that T gets voted in as Speaker of the House

[Tumbulu]

and once in that position arranges for the assassination of Biden and Harris?

Or have I gone off the paranoid deep end?

It is all that I can think of this afternoon.

[Takket]

1. nah, none of that will happen

he has no interest in being speaker. he only wants to be president to pardon everyone. speaker is just a job where he can't help himself. and there is no way in hell he could "arrange for the assassination" even if he wanted to. Meal Team 6 isn't getting past the secret service

[edhopper]

10. If Biden and Harris are assassinated

The Speaker is President

[Takket]

12. They won't be.

[brooklynite]

2. Yes you are. This is the silliest conspiracy theory I've heard in years.

He likes the idea of MAGA Congresspeople rallying around him, but he believes he should be Preesident again.

[Pantagruel]

3. Relax

It's job requiring knowledge and "work" , no chance Trump takes it even if he legally could.

[wnylib]

31. So does the presidency. Didn't stop the orange blob from taking that job.

[TexasDem69]

4. Voted in seems like a legitimate worry

But a longshot. Arranges for an assassination seems very, very paranoid. I don’t even understand why being speak of the house makes an assasination more likely.

[edhopper]

8. If Biden and Harris are killed

the Speaker becomes President

[wnylib]

32. Because Speaker of the House is next in line for the presidency after

the president and VP. If Trump can't get to the WH through a national election, the Speaker is a step toward it.

Someone else posted that Trump could not arrange assassinations. However, that comment overlooks the fact that Trump has friends abroad who can and would do it if it benefited them.

[Tumbulu]

39. It is because T is backed by world oligarchs

whose demise of the US government is their goal that this does not seem to much of a stretch for me.

But I best calm down, as so many good DU people have pointed out.

[wnylib]

46. I worry too about what would happen IF he became Speaker.

But, it does not seem likely that he would get enough votes for that, so that fact is reassuring.

[Tumbulu]

50. That is reassuring

I seem to be experiencing long terms trauma over the seemingly endless assault on all things civil.

[we can do it]

5. Could be.

[BigmanPigman]

6. Every time I think, "Oh, that can't happen"

it does. At this point in Bizarro World, anything is possible, I have learned.

[onenote]

43. If anything is possible than I guess its possible aliens will abduct the entire GOP caucus

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Or maybe everything isn't possible.

The bigger worry if Trump becomes speaker is that we'll all die from attacks by flying pigs.

[BigmanPigman]

47. Pink Floyd put tRump on a flying pig.....

?si=tie3l0Euc7Puw8oK

Perfect! That is why I chose Bigman Pigman as my DU name.

[edhopper]

7. I was thinking

the same thing. Following the Hitler playbook.

[Elessar Zappa]

21. It's a silly conspiracy theory, as brooklynight said.

It’s not going to happen. Bookmark this post.

[edhopper]

29. I agree it's silly

But so is sending a mob of loser to overturn an election.
But as I said, where brooklynite is wrong. The purpose is to become President .
That is the end goal of the conspiracy.

[Tumbulu]

40. Hoping that you are right, but I seem unable to shake the fear

yet.

[DemocraticPatriot]

9. The Secret Service is very professional....

and in such an instance would be even more 'alert'....


On the other hand, if the GOP managed to elect Trump as their 'speaker',
(even though he becomes more incomprehensible by the day),
that would only be a BOON to Democratic prospects in the 2024 congressional elections....


Just my opinion, but I suppose that President Joe Biden listens to his security
in the matter of 'risk assessments',
and gives them reasonable 'weight', for the sake of our country...


(Politically, I think he should make a 'train tour' like Truman, in 2024,
but I am sure that the Secret Service would have their 'hair on fire' if he did...)

[Sky Jewels]

51. The Secret Service has shown it can't be trusted as a whole.

Yes many agents are dedicated professionals, but many cooperated with the coup planning. I don’t think enough housecleaning has happened in the organization.

[stumpysbear]

11. Deep end. Not gonna happen

[RockRaven]

13. You are not the ONLY one, since others have posted on it, but I'm not worried about it.

Not only does the House always choose one of their own as Speaker, even though it isn't explicitly required, but there is absolutely zero whispers of TFG getting more than a token vote.

The House is full of ambitious pricks who aren't going to miss their own chance to become Speaker if they can help it. The only question is which ambitious prick in the House is gonna get the votes lined up eventually by buying off somehow the other pricks. Scalise? Gym Jordan?

[usonian]

14. That's a great point.

What are the chances of an auction for votes or multiple auctions? Based on the scum in the house, I'd take those odds in a nanosecond.

And what if that caused every damn one of the participants to be expelled for bribery?

Ain't enough popcorn in the universe.

[moondust]

15. It would be ridiculous.

He doesn't know anything or care about House rules or anything else. He would need somebody who does know next to him all the time telling him what to do next BUT...he never listens to anybody so even that wouldn't work.

[wnylib]

34. He got through 4 years as President that way.

[moondust]

53. In the White House

he didn't have to preside over official proceedings in public. He doesn't have what it takes to do that.

[Irish_Dem]

16. He could have already done it and hasn't.

When he was still president and Biden/Harris had just been elected.
And any time since then.

Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior.

But I hear you, Trump is the one who is going off the deep end and we don't
know what he will do. I don't think he will do what you fear however.

[AllaN01Bear]

17. how, he aint in the house . wont happen.

[Alpeduez21]

20. Don't have to be in the house to be nominated for Speaker. n/t

[onenote]

45. No, but he does need to get 217 votes

And its pure fantasy to think that 217 of the 221 repubs would vote to make him speaker when all but 8 wanted to keep McCarthy as speaker.

[Initech]

18. No it's been on Fox News this week.

I don't like conservatives in general, but I utterly despise, with the fiery passion of 1,000,000 suns, the MAGA conspiracy theorist fuckheads. They're political locusts. They were born on Fox News and mutated on Infowars, 4chan, and OAN.

We're seeing just how much damage they're capable of doing right now. If that asshole slimed his way back into the White House, there would be no stopping them. They would be able to act out their wildest revenge and execution fantasies. We have to stop this madness at all costs.

[Deuxcents]

26. Agree..getting in the WH worries me more

[Tumbulu]

42. Wow, I did not know that. I came up with this

Fear all on my own.

[Alpeduez21]

19. No you're not the only one worried about this scenario

I am not worried but you are not alone. Just know that T becoming SOTH is very remote. Far more remote than him winning after he came down the escalator. I saw that clip and my thought was he could win. I don't think that here. He was nominated in one of the round of 15 votes and got 1 vote. I'd be more worried about Jordan winning he's fucking nuts.

I don't know how being speaker would make him more able to arrange assassinations. Maybe more motivated. It would be very hard to kill both. They are usually kept separate and the death of one makes an all hands on deck call for the other more urgent (or whatever they call it) Sometimes they're together for campaign events but the white house is a very secure place. Plus repukes have a rule that anyone under indictment for a felony can't be nominated so there's that. Relax about this for right now.

[Tumbulu]

35. Thanks!

[wnylib]

41. Being Speaker would make Trump more motivated, as you said.

As for arranging assassinations, he has friends abroad who would be willing to do it and who already have experience at killing people in other countries.

[ForgedCrank]

22. It is a very real possibility

and could happen right after you see pigs flying around.
No way that jackass could ever get votes for it, so theres absolutely no need to worry about it

[Tumbulu]

25. Well, thanks DU

For calming me down.

I am still over reacting to the potential for the collapse of our system of governance.

And clearly too many people trust a system that has yet to do anything of substance about T and his bullying. Nothing, in my opinion. He is still threatening people.

These indictments without imprisonment for bullying behavior after being let out on bail just emboldens him.

Didn’t any of you read what Romney said about why the Senators and Representatives did not vote to convict after the insurrection?

[BootinUp]

23. First it seems highly unlikely

Second, don't worry yourself ill over something you cannot control.

[Tumbulu]

28. Thanks, good advice.

[BootinUp]

38. no prob.

[ecstatic]

24. republicans have a rule that prevents anyone with felony charges

from being speaker. I assume they would have to vote to overturn that rule? That would not be a good look at all, and I don't think they'd have enough votes to make that change.

[Tumbulu]

27. Since when are any of them following any rules?

They break laws, they break windows, they shoot people, they defend atrocities. Why such faith in any rules?

But I really really hope that you are correct,

[captain queeg]

30. The more he's allowed to spew his treasonous rhetoric, the harder it is for me to sleep some nights

But I’m hoping he is sleeping even worse these days.

[kairos12]

36. Phony Soprano would never do it.

Interrupts his golf game.

[Bev54]

37. I am not the least bit worried, won't happen.

[LudwigPastorius]

44. The Speaker actually has to know how the House works.

Trump neither knows, nor cares to know. He would get his ass handed to him by Hakeem Jeffries.

Even the total nut job wing of the House GOP knows this and would not elect him as Speaker.

[Kennah]

48. Being Speaker is a LOT of work. Trump won't show up.

[GoodRaisin]

49. Don't worry. He is incapable of performing that job.

He’s too lazy and too stupid and runs from anything that looks like real work.

[carpetbagger]

52. No, but won't happen.

Trump would need 217-218 votes. There are 212 democrats. So he could only lose 5 GOP votes. Two sitting reps voted to impeach him. At least a few dozen have endorsed his primary opponents, so they'll be less likely to hand him the reins.

No way he herds cats like that. He's never been able to do it, running into a string of GOP opponents in Congress. Never many of them, but here it only takes five.

[Vinca]

54. He doesn't have to be Speaker to arrange an assassination. If you're paranoid, so am I.

Every time Biden speaks in an open area - especially in a red state - I'm on edge.

[yardwork]

55. Yes, that's really off the deep end.

First, no way would Trump be willing to work hard enough to even pretend to be Speaker of the House.

Second, that's why they have secret service protection.

[MissMillie]

56. He's not eligible

unless they change the rules