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Ferrets are Cool

(23,002 posts)
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 09:18 AM Oct 2023

At the risk of stirring up some shit...

Do we not deserve an explanation for the "stuff" that's going on down on the border concerning the building of the wall and disregarding the environmental issues? This is important.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-administration-border-wall-construction-south-texas/

The Biden administration announced it waived 26 federal laws in South Texas to allow border wall construction on Wednesday, marking the administration's first use of a sweeping executive power employed often during the Trump presidency.

The Department of Homeland Security posted the announcement on the U.S. Federal Registry with few details outlining the construction in Starr County, Texas, which is part of a busy Border Patrol sector seeing "high illegal entry." According to government data, about 245,000 illegal entries have been recorded so far this fiscal year in the Rio Grande Valley Sector, which contains 21 counties.

"There is presently an acute and immediate need to construct physical barriers and roads in the vicinity of the border of the United States in order to prevent unlawful entries into the United States in the project areas," Alejandro Mayorkas, the DHS secretary, stated in the notice.

The Clean Air Act, Safe Drinking Water Act and Endangered Species Act were some of the federal laws waived by DHS to make way for construction that will use funds from a congressional appropriation in 2019 for border wall construction. The waivers avoid time-consuming reviews and lawsuits challenging violation of environmental laws.

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At the risk of stirring up some shit... (Original Post) Ferrets are Cool Oct 2023 OP
I have full faith in the Biden administration Johnny2X2X Oct 2023 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Beachnutt Oct 2023 #2
Biden is under enormous political pressure regarding the border. I too am concerned and would ratchiweenie Oct 2023 #3
It is strange sarisataka Oct 2023 #4
I give Biden the benefit of the doubt. Elessar Zappa Oct 2023 #8
I do trust Biden but sarisataka Oct 2023 #11
Is this going to be extending TFG's monstrosity, or some other sort of barrier? AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #12
It is the same wall sarisataka Oct 2023 #13
It's an extension of barricades beyond places where they already existed. lees1975 Oct 2023 #15
DHS going rogue? Blues Heron Oct 2023 #5
Now simply a choice of what looks worse. Frasier Balzov Oct 2023 #6
Maybe a negotiated deal to get rid of the death traps that wnylib Oct 2023 #7
feel free to ask them Recycle_Guru Oct 2023 #9
Speculation: In politics, the biggest matters can be hidden from sight. usonian Oct 2023 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Oct 2023 #14
Thanks for the great post. Ferrets are Cool Oct 2023 #17
Didn't they just sell all the unused wall stuff? nt leftyladyfrommo Oct 2023 #16
at the risk of contradicting you bigtree Oct 2023 #18
I hope it is being taken out of context. Ferrets are Cool Oct 2023 #19
what I think they should do bigtree Oct 2023 #20
I like every word you wrote. Ferrets are Cool Oct 2023 #21

Johnny2X2X

(24,311 posts)
1. I have full faith in the Biden administration
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 09:26 AM
Oct 2023

If they're doing this, they have a really good reason to do this. They deserve the benefit of the doubt given their impeccable track record. Doesn't mean I won't want to hear the details, just that I expect them to be nobel when taken in context.

Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #1)

ratchiweenie

(8,222 posts)
3. Biden is under enormous political pressure regarding the border. I too am concerned and would
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 10:01 AM
Oct 2023

like to hear some rational for the decision.

sarisataka

(22,713 posts)
4. It is strange
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 10:07 AM
Oct 2023

We suddenly seem to be pretty ok with border walls. Even if some laws need to be bypassed to make that happen.

Wrong then, wrong now IMO

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
8. I give Biden the benefit of the doubt.
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 10:40 AM
Oct 2023

I think he’s earned our trust in him until he proves otherwise. I doubt he’s doing this for no good reason.

sarisataka

(22,713 posts)
11. I do trust Biden but
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 11:05 AM
Oct 2023

I also recall him saying "not one more foot".

If the wall was an ineffective, expensive answer to illegal immigration three years ago I want to know why it is so effective and prudent today... It is the exact same wall is it not?

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
12. Is this going to be extending TFG's monstrosity, or some other sort of barrier?
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 11:25 AM
Oct 2023

There have always been some barriers on the border, but the "Wall" was TFG's creation.

lees1975

(7,097 posts)
15. It's an extension of barricades beyond places where they already existed.
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 12:02 PM
Oct 2023

It's intended to funnel the traffic coming across to specific places, rather than to build a wall along the whole border. It's not a change of policy.

Recycle_Guru

(2,973 posts)
9. feel free to ask them
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 10:48 AM
Oct 2023

I think if you look at recent apprehension data for migrants trying to illegally criss in Rio Grande calley, you will see why the emphasis.

usonian

(25,885 posts)
10. Speculation: In politics, the biggest matters can be hidden from sight.
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 10:56 AM
Oct 2023

Little things like atomic bombs, spy planes, covert operations ....

So, who's to say that "protecting the border" is a smokescreen for organized drug smuggling operations.

The one thing you can count on from RWers is diversion from their own crimes.

Just speculating, but the previous sentence is undeniable.

Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

bigtree

(94,434 posts)
18. at the risk of contradicting you
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 05:06 PM
Oct 2023
Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas @SecMayorkas 21m
I want to address today’s reporting relating to a border wall and be absolutely clear.

There is no new Administration policy with respect to border walls. My full statement ⬇️





bigtree

(94,434 posts)
20. what I think they should do
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 06:44 PM
Oct 2023

...and what I kinda expect the politically astute WH to do.

Mayorkas can rescind his expedited environmental waiver, and they can slow walk this.

After that, they can just sit on it, and if republicans still have the House, let them take them to court.

They have enough political cover for refusing to put up a wall, but this environmental language is going to haunt them into the election.

Hard to believe they'll just roll through with all of this now. Hopefully they realize they're on the wrong foot.

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