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struggle4progress

(126,157 posts)
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 12:05 PM Oct 2023

Finds loophole in gag order, attacks judge

Kristyn Burtt
Thu, October 5, 2023 at 10:21 AM EDT

After Donald Trump, and anyone else associated with his New York business fraud civil case, received a gag order from attacking anyone on Judge Arthur Engoron’s staff, the former president found a loophole. Instead of going after the justice’s court clerk, he decided that he would go straight to the source of his ire.

On Wednesday, Donald Trump ranted and raved about Judge Engoron and New York Attorney General Letitia James during his daily press conference. It’s the arguments the public has all heard before from “election interference” to his long-standing complaints about a “witch hunt.” He angrily said to reporters, “They made up a fake case, these fraudulent people, and the judge already knows what he’s gonna do. He’s a Democrat judge. In all fairness to him, he has no choice… He’s run by the Democrats” ...

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/donald-trump-found-loophole-gag-142141233.html

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Finds loophole in gag order, attacks judge (Original Post) struggle4progress Oct 2023 OP
Engoran should take trump into custody for 24 hours. Back to court and ask if he gets it now? bullimiami Oct 2023 #1
Absolutely! Bayard Oct 2023 #3
+1 rogue emissary Oct 2023 #4
I almost think TFG wants this. He knows any short stint in a jail wouldn't be terrible and Liberal In Texas Oct 2023 #6
of course. and by excluding himself and AG he is telling Trump he can take it Recycle_Guru Oct 2023 #2
+ struggle4progress Oct 2023 #8
unless you think the judge is incompetent, it wasn't a loophole. onenote Oct 2023 #5
Not a loophole. WarGamer Oct 2023 #7
when he says the judge is "run by Democrats" MadameButterfly Oct 2023 #9
You notice not one attack against Loose Cannon BumRushDaShow Oct 2023 #11
Horseshit and Gunsmoke. Magoo48 Oct 2023 #10

bullimiami

(14,075 posts)
1. Engoran should take trump into custody for 24 hours. Back to court and ask if he gets it now?
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 12:14 PM
Oct 2023

Rinse and repeat with escalating consequences.

Bayard

(29,693 posts)
3. Absolutely!
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 12:20 PM
Oct 2023

He obviously does not take this judge and the law seriously. Change his mind.

Liberal In Texas

(16,270 posts)
6. I almost think TFG wants this. He knows any short stint in a jail wouldn't be terrible and
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 12:23 PM
Oct 2023

he would probably be treated with kid gloves...and maybe even be fed McDonalds. This would give him martyr status for his base and rile them up even more to ramp up the violence.

Recycle_Guru

(2,973 posts)
2. of course. and by excluding himself and AG he is telling Trump he can take it
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 12:19 PM
Oct 2023

because they are used to threats from defendants but random staff are off limits.

onenote

(46,142 posts)
5. unless you think the judge is incompetent, it wasn't a loophole.
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 12:22 PM
Oct 2023

The judge knew exactly what his gag order covered and didn't cover. Gag orders are tricky and he purposely made the one he issued narrow. Whether he issues a new one that applies more broadly is up to him. I think is more likely he issues one against attacks on James than attacks on the court more generally.

WarGamer

(18,613 posts)
7. Not a loophole.
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 12:38 PM
Oct 2023

The Judge clearly didn't include himself in the order...

In fact, I'm not sure that a Gag order covering the prosecution and Judge is constitutional.

MadameButterfly

(4,039 posts)
9. when he says the judge is "run by Democrats"
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 01:55 PM
Oct 2023

he admits his view that he can run Republican appointed judges. An independent judiciary is beyond his understanting.

Magoo48

(6,721 posts)
10. Horseshit and Gunsmoke.
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 02:00 PM
Oct 2023

Nobody has the courage to follow through with tfg.
Everyone is afraid of possible consequences.

Well, every fucking move or non move with this dude has, and will continue to have, consequences. Just quit bullshitting everyone. You can either deal with your actions or your inactions; either will have ramifications.

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