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Beakybird

(3,397 posts)
1. It's scary. I think America faces other kinds of scary. Fascism looks different today.
Fri Oct 6, 2023, 10:47 AM
Oct 2023

The obliteration of the lines between what is true and what is not true, what is real and what is not real - this is one of the things that concerns me the most.

Aristus

(72,375 posts)
2. One of the most frightening scene ever filmed.
Fri Oct 6, 2023, 10:56 AM
Oct 2023

Few horror movies can equal the paralyzing dread behind this bucolic little interlude. It reminds me of the title to a collection of Ramsey Campbell's short stories: "Demons By Daylight".

Aristus

(72,375 posts)
5. I didn't, at first.
Fri Oct 6, 2023, 11:07 AM
Oct 2023

I don't mean about the movie; I saw the movie much later. But I saw the stage musical back in the 80's, during Joel Gray's last tour as the Emcee. Understand, I was still a straight-laced Southern kid when I saw the show, and was a little put off by all of the sexual hijinks at the Kit-Kat Club. This went on for twenty minutes or so.

Then a group of young men, wearing the short, red waiters jackets of the Club came out and sang this lovely little song, the refrain of which was "Tomorrow Belongs To Me". I thought it was a nice antidote to all that sleazy chaos. Then my Dad, who had brought me to see the show, leaned over and said: "That was a Hitler Youth anthem." I remember being horrified that I had liked it, and grew to understand why so many people who should have known better fell in with the Nazis.

I later learned that "TBTM" was not a Hitler Youth song, but had been written specifically for the show (By a Jewish song writer, no less), but it didn't change the terrifying allure of the song itself.

I saw the movie a few years later, and was even more chilled by the scene than before, since I finally understand the underlying meaning.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
6. It was not an actual Nazi period song but has been adopted by today's Nazis.
Fri Oct 6, 2023, 11:10 AM
Oct 2023

"Tomorrow Belongs to Me" is a song from the 1966 Broadway musical Cabaret, and the 1972 film of the same name, sung primarily by a Nazi character. It was written and composed by two Jewish musicians – John Kander and Fred Ebb – as part of an avowedly anti-fascist work; the nationalist character of the song serves as a warning to the musical's characters of the rise of Nazism. Nonetheless, "Tomorrow Belongs to Me" has been adopted by right-wing, neo-Nazi, and alt-right groups as an anthem.

Irony... The U.S. alt-right activist Richard B. Spencer appeared to embrace the song as a neo-Nazi anthem: Kander's nephew responded by noting the song was written by a Jew in a same-sex marriage.[10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomorrow_Belongs_to_Me

Cyrano

(15,388 posts)
8. Exactly. He's lived through it and knows what's coming.
Fri Oct 6, 2023, 11:25 AM
Oct 2023

It's scenes like this for which choreographer/director Bob Fosse won the Academy Award. And it's scenes like this that should be understood by Americans who don't seem to see of understand today's threat to our freedoms.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
9. I know it's said every presidential election cycle that it's the most...
Fri Oct 6, 2023, 12:09 PM
Oct 2023

consequential one ever, but it is this time for sure because if trump/magas win, it's fascism R Us for all. And it won't be pretty.

This is it. Still hard to believe that so many in the nation have fallen under the thrall of man so glaringly unfit to run it.

Many have but I firmly believe that more haven't. We outnumber their fascist asses.

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