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Cyrano

(15,388 posts)
Fri Oct 6, 2023, 01:27 PM Oct 2023

We now know that "No one is above the law" is a meaningless/empty phrase.

Trump has torn the mask off some of the bullshit we've lived with our entire lives.

I'd be thankful to him, if I didn't want to see him in a dungeon for the rest of his miserable existence.

It's amazing how much propaganda was drilled into us as children and that most of us (me included) still beleive.

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We now know that "No one is above the law" is a meaningless/empty phrase. (Original Post) Cyrano Oct 2023 OP
Everyone who has compromised classified information has been arrested on the spot and jailed. usonian Oct 2023 #1
Tell that to Petraeus and Sandy Berger --- never spent a minute in jail onenote Oct 2023 #6
How should it be modified? usonian Oct 2023 #8
Never really believed that, myself. maxsolomon Oct 2023 #2
Don't look now, but your cynicism is showing. Nt. Fiendish Thingy Oct 2023 #3
Quite So, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2023 #4
I don't know that I would agree that it's a "meaningless/empty phrase." Xavier Breath Oct 2023 #5
Anyone can be President, oh wait! sarcasmo Oct 2023 #7
Some of us knew it was meaningless decades ago ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #9
It always has been meaningless. SamKnause Oct 2023 #10

usonian

(25,312 posts)
1. Everyone who has compromised classified information has been arrested on the spot and jailed.
Fri Oct 6, 2023, 01:42 PM
Oct 2023

Last edited Fri Oct 6, 2023, 06:30 PM - Edit history (1)

I read a list of greatest espionage cases in U.S. history and this one exceeds them all by two orders of magnitude, if not more.

There are records and eye witnesses. More slam-dunks than an NBA slam-dunk competition. Matter of fact, all of them combined.

Dominique Wilkins could try this case and win in no time.



On edit: almost everyone, of course.
So, today's news item:
https://archive.ph/XAoxg
Former U.S. Soldier Is Accused of Trying to Give Classified Secrets to China

By Adam Goldman
Oct 6, 2023

So get this: during a trip to Istanbul, Mr. Schmidt tried to contact the Chinese Consulate.

“I also am trying to share information I learned during my career as an interrogator with the Chinese government,” Mr. Schmidt wrote, according to court documents. “I have a current top secret clearance, and would like to talk to someone from the government to share this information with you if that is possible.”

He added: “My experience includes training in interrogation, running sources as a spy handler, surveillance detection and other advanced psychological operation strategies.”

While in Turkey, Mr. Schmidt searched online for phrases like “turkey extradition military defection,” “can you be extradited for treason” and “what is china’s intelligence agency.”

In March 2020, Mr. Schmidt traveled to Hong Kong, where he repeatedly tried to supply China with national security secrets, the court documents said.


Caught this week after flying from Hong Kong to San Francisco for unknown reasons.
To see the 49ers play Dallas on Sunday? No idea.

Google records your search history if you have an account there and log in, as lots of people do.
The FBI also had his Apple Maps history from his iCloud account.

https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/w9o7nv/does_google_actually_keep_an_entire_search/

maxsolomon

(38,715 posts)
2. Never really believed that, myself.
Fri Oct 6, 2023, 01:42 PM
Oct 2023

The rich and connected get preferential treatment; it has always been thus. It used to be far worse with racial violence, so I suppose we should be grateful for how it is now.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
4. Quite So, Sir
Fri Oct 6, 2023, 05:22 PM
Oct 2023

The man is entitled to every courtesy and break which would routinely be extended to any indigent charged with multiple felonies and represented by a public defender.

No less, and no more.

Xavier Breath

(6,640 posts)
5. I don't know that I would agree that it's a "meaningless/empty phrase."
Fri Oct 6, 2023, 05:28 PM
Oct 2023

"Recently and continuously stretched beyond all elasticity" sounds about right, though.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
9. Some of us knew it was meaningless decades ago
Fri Oct 6, 2023, 08:09 PM
Oct 2023

I had to break the news to a fairly recent immigrant that our courts were hopelessly corrupt...unless you were rich.

That was in 2014.

I could speak to that, because I'd seen too many people get screwed by rich people in court. Or a rich person who should have been strung up walk free after a grievous criminal act.

The latter hit very close to home. A friend of mine is dead now because the system ignored the many warning signs of her (eventually) ex-husband's escalating domestic violence assaults against her.

He had money.

She didn't.

He's finally in jail.

But she's dead.

The legal system failed her, over and over again.

I have never forgiven them for that.

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