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Lunabell

(7,309 posts)
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 01:16 PM Oct 2023

Well, Mike Pence finally found some of his cajones.

GLENWOOD, I.A. — Former Vice President Mike Pence tore into Donald Trump and pointed to isolationism in the Republican Party as complicit in the sweeping Hamas attack on Israel, decrying American “retreat on the world stage.”

In a scathing rebuke of isolationism in the Republican Party, Pence faulted “voices of appeasement like Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy and Ron DeSantis that I believe have run contrary to the tradition in our party that America is the leader of the free world.”

Pence’s comments in Iowa represented the first ripple in the Republican primary from the violence that erupted on Saturday — and effectively threw down a challenge to Republicans he said have “embraced the language of isolationism and appeasement.”

The role of the United States in maintaining global security is one of the most important points of friction between the Republican presidential candidate — one that could now erupt in a new way because of the violence in Israel.



https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/07/gop-presidential-hopefuls-reaffirm-support-for-israel-following-hamas-attack-00120481

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Well, Mike Pence finally found some of his cajones. (Original Post) Lunabell Oct 2023 OP
But, but, Mike -- he moved the embassy to Jerusalem! rsdsharp Oct 2023 #1
Well, it seems the chaos agents are at it once again! Backseat Driver Oct 2023 #8
Nah, can't find what he ain't got... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #2
What has he got to lose at this point? He has no chance at the nomination, Ocelot II Oct 2023 #3
Too little, too late LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2023 #4
Pence with cajones? That won't last. (nt) Paladin Oct 2023 #5
Mommy NowISeetheLight Oct 2023 #10
In his party, is that like "being just a little bit pregnant?" n/t Backseat Driver Oct 2023 #6
Want to bet he wants to convert Israel to Christianity? usonian Oct 2023 #7
Don't think the dysfunctionally insane care or know about "motivation" or "strategy planning" Backseat Driver Oct 2023 #9
Not to worry, he will lose them again. Dan Oct 2023 #11

rsdsharp

(12,059 posts)
1. But, but, Mike -- he moved the embassy to Jerusalem!
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 01:27 PM
Oct 2023

Nobody did more for Israel than Trump! Just ask him.

Backseat Driver

(4,671 posts)
8. Well, it seems the chaos agents are at it once again!
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 01:57 PM
Oct 2023

Did either of them get that 23andMe genetic testing? Seems like "isolationism" made it far easier to identify part of one's ancient health heritage including personal information. Looks like the field size of the hacked dark-web database study couldn't expand farther that 999,999 so a few outliers here and there could be freaked out and reactive to suggestive science models. (and just synthesizing).

https://blog.23andme.com/articles/ashkenazi-ancestry-and-health

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/23andme-user-data-targeting-ashkenazi-jews-leaked-online-rcna119324



 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
2. Nah, can't find what he ain't got...
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 01:28 PM
Oct 2023

..he's just trying some new angle to get money or power or somethng.

Ocelot II

(130,947 posts)
3. What has he got to lose at this point? He has no chance at the nomination,
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 01:29 PM
Oct 2023

so he might as well stick his neck out a bit for once and try to cultivate a reputation for something besides Trumpish toadying. Maybe be he thinks that if TFG goes either to prison or to his final, eternal and warm reward, he has a chance in GOP politics. I doubt it, but good for him for at least pushing back against the Trump party line a little.

NowISeetheLight

(4,002 posts)
10. Mommy
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 02:37 PM
Oct 2023

Mommy only took the chastity belt off him for this one situation... I'm sure she's already got the key back.

usonian

(26,066 posts)
7. Want to bet he wants to convert Israel to Christianity?
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 01:36 PM
Oct 2023

As his motive … and then everyone else …
Where did I put that dollar bill?

Backseat Driver

(4,671 posts)
9. Don't think the dysfunctionally insane care or know about "motivation" or "strategy planning"
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 02:11 PM
Oct 2023

when causing chaos for money churning...What faith were Adam and Eve? Cain must have gotten an even bigger surprise to find heretics and heathens, (of which half might have been female?) in the location of his family banishment as punishment for murdering his brother. Oops, me bad?

Please note: I even pick up pennies for hoarding...so, $1 saved would be dollar earned or something like that - thanks!

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