Has Egypt signaled any willingness

[sarisataka]

To open the border and allow Palestinian civilians to flee the war zone to the Sinai, even on a temporary basis?

[roamer65]

1. I would assume they eventually will.

[JohnSJ]

4. I wouldn't bet on it

[roamer65]

5. There are already calls for Egypt to open the Rafah border crossing to humanitarian aid.

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[Igel]

11. The crossing's been there straight along, right?

So the suffering and deprivation that's claimed to be the grounds (if not justification) for yesterday is partly at Egypt's feet.

Then again, the Palestinian militants have created their share of grief, death, destruction for a country that would appear to be inhabited by fellow Muslims so it's not like there's a lot of good will there. Plus it's not like the Sinai's exactly a welcoming environment or the local population could handle 500k refugees.

Egypt shows a willingness to help when Egypt looks good as a result and doesn't suffer as a result, not when it's going to be viewed as letting killers of the vulnerable to bravely run away.

[roamer65]

12. There are a shit ton of tunnels into Egypt from Gaza.

From what I read, it’s a very porous border. Gaza used to be Egyptian territory until the 1967 war.

They have tried to combat the tunnels, but I doubt they have eliminated them completely.

[Elessar Zappa]

2. Probably not but they should.

[CincyDem]

3. Nope - they don't want Hamas any more than any other Arab country. n/t

[Celerity]

6. So, just how many of Palestinian civilians (the OP's subject) are Hamas?

Where do you draw the line between civilian victims and Hamas terrorists?

[ripcord]

7. How do you tell the difference when the terrorists are imbedded in the population?

[Celerity]

9. That is what I want to now. You certainly cannot broad brush it out to all Palestinians.

If Israel starts to indiscriminately go full 'Carthage circa 146 BCE' on Gaza, you have to evacuate the civilians en masse or you are potentially condemning 2 million to death, whether it is via Israeli kinetic weapons or drowning in the Mediterranean Sea.

[RockRaven]

8. Why would Egypt want two-plus million impoverished refugees any more than the next guy?

So long as those people are in Gaza, Egypt can wash their hands of responsibility for what happens to them. Once they are let into Egypt, that is not so.

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

10. Doubtful

The rest of the Middle East doesn't like the Palistinians either. They are seen as a useful propaganda tool to use against Israel. That's it. Look at how they treat Palistinian refugees in their own countries. Most don't grant them much, if any, rights. There is the Casablanca protocol that the Arab League created to give legal protections to Palistinian refugees. Not many actually follow it very well.

[Xolodno]

13. Not likely.

Egypt hates Hamas as they are allied with the Muslim Brotherhood. Not going to happen, they'll later allow humanitarian in, but nobody is coming out.