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onecaliberal

(36,594 posts) Mon Oct 9, 2023, 10:11 AM Oct 2023

MSM asking what led to Intel failure in Israel? Asking the wrong questions yet again.

In May 2017, the former president defended his actions after he was found to have discussed sensitive details about an alleged Islamic State [Isis] plot with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak in the Oval Office. Trump said he had an absolute right to do so. The intel was said to have been provided to the U.S. from Israel.

It was suggested at the time that the former president's handing over sensitive information from Israel could have damaged the relationship between the two countries. It also could have raised the possibility that the details could be passed from Russia to Iran, the Gulf nation that is a fierce adversary of Israel and has long supported Hamas.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-israel-intel-russia-hamas-attack-1833094

We can thank trump and republicans. This is only the beginning.

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MSM asking what led to Intel failure in Israel? Asking the wrong questions yet again. (Original Post) onecaliberal Oct 2023 OP

Rumors. hay rick Oct 2023 #1

The biggest intelligence failure in the history of the world... FalloutShelter Oct 2023 #2

..... Sneederbunk Oct 2023 #4

Unfortunately -- if the war expands and lasts months -- Biden will be unfairly blamed for the war. Silent Type Oct 2023 #3

Voting for Trump. Iggo Oct 2023 #5

hay rick

(9,717 posts)

1. Rumors.

Reply to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 9, 2023, 10:20 AM

Oct 2023

I was struck by the immediate headline assertion that there was an unprecedented intelligence failure. This quickly turns into who is to blame and various groups are almost certain to blame the people they always blame.

What if the problem was understood as a failure to act on the available information?

FalloutShelter

(14,617 posts)

2. The biggest intelligence failure in the history of the world...

Reply to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 9, 2023, 10:35 AM

Oct 2023

The election of Donald Trump to the presidency.

A total failure of the intelligence of the people who voted for him, and the event that enabled the continuing cascading intelligence failure spawned by his big mouth and allegiance to Putin.

It's not really hard to connect the dots here,

The MSM failing again.

Sneederbunk

(17,638 posts)

4. .....

Reply to FalloutShelter (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 9, 2023, 11:54 AM

Oct 2023

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)

3. Unfortunately -- if the war expands and lasts months -- Biden will be unfairly blamed for the war.

Reply to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 9, 2023, 11:11 AM

Oct 2023

Iggo

(50,049 posts)

5. Voting for Trump.

Reply to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 9, 2023, 01:17 PM

Oct 2023

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