What We Know About Trump's Theft Of Classified Documents Is Bad

[gab13by13]

Just imagine what we don't know. Trump put his cronies in high positions, gave them security clearances that they otherwise could not get on their own. People like Kash Patel and Jared Kushner could have been couriers to Trump of classified documents.

I have no regrets opining that Trump gave Israeli intelligence information to Putin, who gave it to Iran who gave it to Hamas.

I bet that's not the worst that Trump has done.

Just his latest sharing of nuclear information is grounds to lock him up, and waterboard him. Donald Trump is a threat to our national security.

[Irish_Dem]

1. We will never some of the worst Trump has done because it is or will be classified.

But we can look at tragic world events as they unfold and see Trump's fingerprints all over them.

[gab13by13]

2. British intelligence claims that Trump

is a Putin puppet, but Trump's people did a good job of shooting that down.

[Irish_Dem]

26. We know he was a puppet when Putin interfered with the election.

And we can see GOP leaders regularly spout Putin's talking points.

[Fiendish Thingy]

3. Waterboarding? Seriously?

Did you support the waterboarding of “suspected” terrorists after 9/11, or just now for Trump?

Kind of fascistic, if you ask me…

[gab13by13]

4. Lighten up,

you know I write in absolutes to get people's attention. 😊

[ShazzieB]

20. Thanks for this.

I HATE it when people talk about waterboarding as if it's actually an acceptable thing. It's not always easy to tell whether comments like this are serious or made in jest, and I object to it either way, because it is not a laughing matter.

While I'm here, I might as well mention another closely related topic that I did equally offensive: Gitmo. I don't know many posts I've read in the last few years saying that TFG should be sent there and whether meant seriously or as a joke, I find such comments disturbing.

Gitmo is a dark chapter in our nation's history involving multiple human rights violations, and it never should have happened. As an American, I'm ashamed that it ever existed and appalled that it still does. Gitmo and the horrible things that have been done there (like waterboarding) are not things we should talk about casually, much less joke about, because to do so has the effect of normalizing terrible abuses that are a blot on our nation's history.

I really wish people would just stop with these kinds of comments.

[Fiendish Thingy]

22. Torture is not a joke

And joking about torture reveals more about the joker than it does about the topic they’re seeking attention for.

[ShazzieB]

23. I absolutely agree.

[Lonestarblue]

5. Trump usually does things for one of two reasons: to brag and make himself look important and

to make money to support his never-ending greed. It is logical to conclude that he shared top-secret documents with anyone who would pay his price. Trump’s loyalties are only to himself so nationality would not matter, although he’s fond of saying that he’s nice to those who are nice to him so Putin and MBS would be at the top of the list for getting top-secret intelligence.

It’s ironic that after Russia launches its illegal attack on Ukraine and Zelensky asked Israel for help building an Iron Dome, the Israeli government refused because they did not want to antagonize Russia. With Russia being a possible source for the transmission of Israeli security information to Iran and then to HAMAS, perhaps Israel will realize that Russia is not their friend.

[KPN]

18. FAT's* motives could actually be worse that that. The world is at this moment in

tremendous turmoil. Frankly, I have to wonder whether turmoil isn't a specific motive designed to weaken our normal democratic system even further in hopes of eking out a 2024 win by hook or by crook. I suspect Putin has schooled the fat ass fully on the advantages that chaos, ambiguity, obscurity and uncertainty lend to autocratic control. Faced with very real legal and political threats to his life as he currently knows it, FAT is or was likely desperate enough to cross any boundary in his attempts to save himself by disrupting any and all social, cultural and political norms sufficiently to seize control.

I don't know this as fact, but I sure have to wonder about it. He certainly does not care about the safety and well-being of average, everyday people whether they live in Israel, Palestinian territories, the USA or elsewhere. Unless they serve him, they are worthless to him.


*Fat Ass Trump

[Duppers]

28. Love your acronym for tRump..

[WVreaper]

6. Do forget about no jacket Jim

Speaker of the House? We need a parade of Ohio State wrestlers whenever and wherever there is a chance.

[rurallib]

16. Also do not forget about Rand Paul and his trip to Russia

with a secret envelope for Putin at Trump's behest. That must be investigated.

[whathehell]

29. I didn't even know about that, and you're right

That definitely needs to be investigated.

[ECL213]

19. It's Jacket-Off Gym, get it right.

[iluvtennis]

7. tfg would not have ever been granted a security clearance as private citizen. tfg got his clearance

simply due to the office he held.

One of the major things evaluated during background investigation for a security clearance is whether one can be compromised. And financial debt is considered a key contributor to one being able to be compromised.

tfg's would never have been granted a security clearance with the level of debt he had.

[gab13by13]

10. Yes, and something else needs to be changed,

Jared, Ivanka, Kash Patel, and others couldn't get top security clearances so Trump just gave them.

The president should not be allowed to give out security clearances to people who can't get them on their own.

[iluvtennis]

11. + agree.

[Joinfortmill]

8. Completely agree

[gab13by13]

9. Here is where I am going,

If Trump had connections with Iran, I have no doubt that for money he would sell out Israel. Iran would pay him big money.

Trump does have connections with Putin. Not enough is being made about how often Trump called his puppet master.

[hadEnuf]

12. It's looking more and more like Trump has sold out the security of the United States

for money and/or for power to be delivered to him.

Why is this son of a bitch still at large? Why are the Republicans who are complicit still not indicted?


I get that justice moves slowly, but Trump and his extremists are a clear and present danger to our country.

[gab13by13]

14. I honestly believe that members of Congress have immunity.

[hadEnuf]

15. Some of these Congress people did their own conspiring not directly attributably to Trump,

but instead as loyal MAGATs. That means they were on their own which I believe means no immunity.

[IronLionZion]

13. It's verified that he gave Israeli intel to Putin and he even defended it as "fighting terrorism"

the speculation is what Putin did with it after that to find it's way to Hamas through Iran.

The possibility that hundreds of people including American citizens died because of it should be investigated thoroughly and prosecuted. You know. Because America First.

[calimary]

17. WHY does he still walk free? WHY is he still able to hold court in Mar-a-Lago?

Is he REALLY untouchable?

Haven’t we seen ENOUGH by now?

No wonder he thinks he’s some sort of god. People who shouldn’t be treating him that way ARE treating him that way. Including law enforcement and the criminal justice system.

[gab13by13]

24. Chris Christie said the same thing I am saying,

People are afraid of Trump, going back to his mob connections to his arrangement with Putin. Trump doesn't have a friendship with Putin, he has been compromised by Putin.

Magat Senators admitted to Mitt Romney that they were afraid to vote to convict Trump.

There are numerous brave people who have taken Trump on;

E. Jean Carroll has been involved in her lawsuits against Trump for 4 years.
Letitia James has taken on Trump's crimes in New York.
Fani Willis, when she saw that Trump was involved in election interference opened up an investigation into Trump in March of 2021,
Dana Nessel, Michigan AG, when she saw the multi-state fake elector scheme, made a criminal referral to the feds. She waited 1 year and when DOJ did nothing, she reopened her own prosecution.

Notice anything similar in those brave people? They are all women, extremely brave women.

[calimary]

27. Yes! I did notice that! Poetic Justice!

[wnylib]

21. I have no problem believing it. Given what we know about Trump,

I assume that it's true that he gave Intel on Israeli security to Putin, who passed it along.

I assume, too, that Israel is not the only country whose security has been compromised by Trump selling info. He has compromised his own country, so why would he stop there?

Maybe, if we're lucky, a security agent from one of those countries will cause Trump to go through some things. And do it in a way that is not traceable. An accident. An illness.

[LiberaBlueDem]

25. We don't even know the half of what he did

Mainly because so much of what he stole was above top secret.

I would say that there is some interest in going slow with the prosecution until all the evidence of what was stolen has been examined for foreign impacts it has caused our intelligence agencies. Like with this Israeli iron dome business