Trump And Republicans Are Not Pro-Israel

[gab13by13]

It is laughable to say that the new Nazi Magat party is pro-Israel. They freaking marched in the streets chanting Jews will not replace us and then Trump stated there were good people on both sides.

The party of Jewish space lasers now claims to be pro-Jewish? Give me a freaking break, enough of their propaganda.

They may be pro-Bibi.

[onecaliberal]

1. Trump is responsible for giving Intel to Iran.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

2. The only reason why the GOP and MAGA Nutcases support Israel is the belief in the endtimes

The support of Israel by some RWNJs is based on their hope for an apocalypse

Link to tweet

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/apocalypse-another-disturbing-reason-behind-right-wings-pro-israel-obsession/

Politics professor Elizabeth Oldmixon explained in an interview with Vox the strange thread of Christianity that fosters an apocalyptic vision the inspires much of the right-wing support for Israel.

“These are the folks who believe that there will be a millennium in the future, a golden age, where Christ reigns on Earth, [and] they believe that before Christ will return, there will be a tribulation where Christ defeats evil,” she said. “There will be natural disasters and wars, and perhaps an Antichrist, as the book of Revelations notes. Then at the end of that period, the people of the Mosaic covenant, including the Jews, will convert. Then after their conversion, the great millennium starts.”

She continued: “You have this group of people looking around for signs of the end time, and in the 20th century when Israel was founded, this was seen as a major sign. This was electrifying for that community because the gathering of all the Jews in exile to the Holy Land is a prerequisite for all of these events unfolding. So for the subset of evangelicals in the 20th century, support for Israel became a really, really important political position.”

And as evangelical Christianity grew into a central part of the GOP’s coalition, pro-Israel policies became cemented in the party’s ideology.

The alliance between the evangelicals and pro-Israeli Jews, though, is a peculiar partnership. The Christians enter into the bargain with the assumption that, when they reach their goal of the apocalypse, any Jews will either become Christians or go to hell. But their pro-Israel allies don’t seem to mind this much, perhaps because they don’t believe this version of the apocalypse will ever actually come to be — and as long as it is just a fantasy, their interests and those of evangelicals remain aligned.

American Jews and supporters of Israel are aware of the reason why these religious nut jobs are supporting Israel. Israel needs all of the help it can get and so plays on and uses these religious nut jobs.

[arthritisR_US]

3. Rabid evangelicals support Israel but only

because of their 2nd coming BS. They support to the tune of 144,000 souls and then the rest they could care less because they and their jesus would be in charge.

[malaise]

4. That simple n/t

[leftstreet]

5. Future Jesus Landing Pad is in their Book of Sorcery n/t

[getagrip_already]

6. Trump never supported israel.. he supported netanyahoo

As a fascist who said nice things about trump and was working to tear down his judiciary, tiny liked him.

Jews and Israel, not so much.

[indigoth]

7. Trump and republicans

They are pro trump and (rich) republicans. No one else.

[JohnSJ]

8. It actually is a complicated question, and polls give misleading results because of the

way questions are framed.

From what I can see the majority of both party’s support Israel and its right to exist. The differences are as the OP notes ilies in the approval of the current Israeli leadership.

In the middle of the recent attack, I think you will find both Democrats and republicans supporting Israel by large majorities.

At the same time I think you will find elements in both parties against Israel. How many that is in each party I am not sure, but it is a minority.

The problem is that the Palestinians have been pawns for too long. In 1967 and not 1972 there were opportunities for a two state solution, but at the time the Arab neighbors pushed the Palestinians not to agree to any agreement, because they would eradicate Israel.

Everytime peace was close at hand, Carter, Rabin, Sadat, Clinton, extremist elements came in and sabotaged those efforts

and that is where we are today

[redqueen]

11. Everytime peace was close at hand, ... right wing elements came in and sabotaged those efforts.

FIFY

[JohnSJ]

12. Is the Muslim Brotherhood who killed Sadat right wing? Like it or not extreme elements

have sabotaged those efforts.

I think it is hard to distinguish between extreme right or left.


 

[redqueen]

13. Muslim extremists aren't right wing?

I figured with their brand of authoritarianism (anti gay, andi women, etc) they would be classed as such 🤷

[JohnSJ]

14. Point taken, however are you saying there are no "left wing" authoritarians? I don't think you are.

[redqueen]

15. I think there are

Communist countries have had their fair share of those, have they not?

[JohnSJ]

17. That is why I said, "I don't think you are". and yes they have, though when you deal with extreme

ideologies I think they become more alike then different.

Extreme hot or extreme cold will both burn

[redqueen]

18. "Extreme hot or extreme cold will both burn"

I like that

[LiberaBlueDem]

9. They are pro-war

Unless war is against Russia

War means stealing from the victims of said wars. It also means great profits for the makers of war weapons.

Our $3.8B a year weapons subsidy to Israel is a great profit bearing enterprise for the warmongers so that makes this war a good thing

[Sogo]

10. Exactly right!

MAGATS =

[usonian]

16. I struck me right away. TFG anti-Semitic and pro-Israel.

At least on the surface, but he is entirely facade.

I figured mister "both ways" wanted a spot on Mount Russiamore.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

19. The only reason why some Christian conservatives support Israel is belief in the end times

The support of Israel by some RWNJs is based on their hope for an apocalypse

Link to tweet

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/apocalypse-another-disturbing-reason-behind-right-wings-pro-israel-obsession/

Politics professor Elizabeth Oldmixon explained in an interview with Vox the strange thread of Christianity that fosters an apocalyptic vision the inspires much of the right-wing support for Israel.

“These are the folks who believe that there will be a millennium in the future, a golden age, where Christ reigns on Earth, [and] they believe that before Christ will return, there will be a tribulation where Christ defeats evil,” she said. “There will be natural disasters and wars, and perhaps an Antichrist, as the book of Revelations notes. Then at the end of that period, the people of the Mosaic covenant, including the Jews, will convert. Then after their conversion, the great millennium starts.”

She continued: “You have this group of people looking around for signs of the end time, and in the 20th century when Israel was founded, this was seen as a major sign. This was electrifying for that community because the gathering of all the Jews in exile to the Holy Land is a prerequisite for all of these events unfolding. So for the subset of evangelicals in the 20th century, support for Israel became a really, really important political position.”

And as evangelical Christianity grew into a central part of the GOP’s coalition, pro-Israel policies became cemented in the party’s ideology.

The alliance between the evangelicals and pro-Israeli Jews, though, is a peculiar partnership. The Christians enter into the bargain with the assumption that, when they reach their goal of the apocalypse, any Jews will either become Christians or go to hell. But their pro-Israel allies don’t seem to mind this much, perhaps because they don’t believe this version of the apocalypse will ever actually come to be — and as long as it is just a fantasy, their interests and those of evangelicals remain aligned.

American Jews and supporters of Israel are aware of the reason why these religious nut jobs are supporting Israel. Israel needs all of the help it can get and so plays on and uses these religious nut jobs.