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Old Crank

(7,076 posts)
Tue Oct 10, 2023, 04:50 PM Oct 2023

I have been trying to find polite ways to tell people that they are wrong.

It doesn't really help to say that they are lying, full of.... or a number of other things.
I'm not going to be too optimistic that these will change minds but they shouldn't lead to angry responses.
I was reading The Economist and these two popped out.

When some one has an opinion about something that you know is wrong. "This is at odds with the evidence."

Or looking at a problem using bad data. &quot your statement, or results) do not capture trends revealed by the actual data."

Just an effort to tone down discussions. Hope it will work.


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I have been trying to find polite ways to tell people that they are wrong. (Original Post) Old Crank Oct 2023 OP
Get the fuck out of here pwb Oct 2023 #1
Sometimes the yelling and screaming is revealing leftstreet Oct 2023 #2
I have found that often times, someone else has told them they're wrong...so usually, you're SWBTATTReg Oct 2023 #3
Just laugh at em and Beachnutt Oct 2023 #4
Middle finger with a blond wig and a pink pinafore ought to do it rurallib Oct 2023 #5
I'm getting too old Old Crank Oct 2023 #7
You'll have to use less academic language MadameButterfly Oct 2023 #6
Depends on issues and facts. elleng Oct 2023 #8
Demand factual proof. Evidence. pfitz59 Oct 2023 #9
Thoroughly modern me, in the age of big data: usonian Oct 2023 #10
I'm kind of partial to: "Well, I'd agree with you ZZenith Oct 2023 #11
"I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong" nt Baltimike Oct 2023 #12
I like em all. yonder Oct 2023 #13
I like, "Interesting perspective". It's better than "Wrong" Joinfortmill Oct 2023 #14
Try "who told you a dumb thing like that?" Warpy Oct 2023 #15
I tell them, bob4460 Oct 2023 #16
Thanks for doing this senseandsensibility Oct 2023 #17
I like the Old Crank Oct 2023 #18

leftstreet

(40,675 posts)
2. Sometimes the yelling and screaming is revealing
Tue Oct 10, 2023, 04:53 PM
Oct 2023

It takes a lot of energy for some people to tamp down their inner prejudices and hostilities

You make great points though

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
3. I have found that often times, someone else has told them they're wrong...so usually, you're
Tue Oct 10, 2023, 04:56 PM
Oct 2023

not the only person that feels that they're wrong. This is not the coward's way out, it's just that others have beat you to the punch.

MadameButterfly

(4,039 posts)
6. You'll have to use less academic language
Tue Oct 10, 2023, 05:01 PM
Oct 2023

or they'll just call you elite. These aren't policy wonks. But your point is well taken--point to evidence, data. Not opinions.

It may seem hopeless, but any inroads we can make...and you don't win anyone over by insulting them. As mad as we justifiably are.

usonian

(25,313 posts)
10. Thoroughly modern me, in the age of big data:
Tue Oct 10, 2023, 05:14 PM
Oct 2023

"Too small a sample size"



and your dick is out.

MADE YOU LOOK.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
15. Try "who told you a dumb thing like that?"
Tue Oct 10, 2023, 08:11 PM
Oct 2023

It's less polite on its surface but it removes the onus from the speaker and places it squarely on someone else who's not present.

You get to make a clean getaway while they struggle for an answer that won't make them look stupider and have to reboot.

bob4460

(391 posts)
16. I tell them,
Tue Oct 10, 2023, 08:32 PM
Oct 2023

I tell them, if you believe that I have to question your intelligence,Usually they do not know what to say.Although I have had one ask me for an apology after I said that during a heated argument. Lol I said you are dumber than I thought.

Old Crank

(7,076 posts)
18. I like the
Tue Oct 10, 2023, 10:42 PM
Oct 2023

Interesting perspective.

Might follow with,
Where did you get that idea/information?

It is really frustrating to deal with people who come from ignorance and refuse to even hear something different.

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