Just now watching CNN: Israeli govt has confirmed story of babies being beheaded

[Tomconroy]

I suppose some on DU will claim it's propaganda.
Turn on the TV.

[DestinyIsles]

1. Yup

it was also disgraceful to see it on twitter too. Hamas are animals.

[Sympthsical]

2. Observing around, some seem to be angry it's true

Not because it happened, but because a talking point has been removed from use. Once confirmation came, it was radio silence time.

People have gotten very weird very quickly about all this.

Ideology is trash.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

4. I've noticed the talking points change every 12 hours or so

First it was statistics about how many Palestinians have been killed over the past 20 years.
Then it was that Hamas doesn't represent all Palestinians.
Then it was that Gaza is filled with children so they couldn't possibly support Hamas.
Then it was that the atrocities were false flags.
Now it seems we're back to Israelis are bad too.

[BannonsLiver]

13. I've noticed that

The most reliable “tell” for me is any time someone uses the “worlds largest prison” line.

[Sympthsical]

14. You forgot "open air"

[BannonsLiver]

15. Ah yes. Can't forget the open air part.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

3. They've moved on

Now the argument is that it's just the same as bombing a building.
Me, I'm waiting for a Palestinian "leader" to denounce Hamas' action. After that talking point a couple days ago about Hamas not representing Palestine, I'd think someone would be speaking up to denounce their barbarism.

[sanatanadharma]

5. Gospel of Matthew (2:16-18)

It is Biblical!
The Massacre (or Slaughter) of the Innocents Gospel of Matthew (2:16–18)

For those who wish to argue that some baby murders are worst than others (and perhaps even justified by God), you can pursue the following link at your own risk.

https://apologeticspress.org/did-god-order-the-killing-of-babies-2810

[avebury]

6. The whole situation is horrific.

I read an article that several Middle Eastern Countries, including Saudi Arabia and Qatar, had been warning Israel for a long time that something like this would happen. It has not helped that the Israelis have been involved with establishing illegal settlements in Palestinian territories and forcing them out of their part of the land.

Both sides have had their degrees of fault over the years, Hamas is far more brutal in their methodology. The world is Pickachu face about a violent attack that was totally foreseeable. It does not matter who you are or where you live, people will only take so much before they will fight back. If all sides cannot act rationally and realize that nobody will always get their way 100% of the time, nothing will really change.

Benjamin Netanyahu had a brother, Yonatan, who was Israeli military and the only solder to die in the Raid on Entebbe. His family released a book of his letters to various people over the years which was really interesting. He actually got to the point where he realized that perpetual war was not the path to follow. He was a patriot and fought for his country but realized that things really needed to change. It would be interesting to be able to know what he would have though of his brother's hard line approach.

[JI7]

7. The dishonest ones will still deny or make excuses

i'm even seeing some claim the german girl is actually alive and it's all lies .

[obamanut2012]

17. Her mother said she was told she is alive

I believe she is dead, but the information is coming from Ms. Louk's mother.

[Marius25]

8. And yet every single pro-Palestinian rally we've seen in the West so far has been

defending Hamas. French Police just broke up a pro-Hamas rally in Paris.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

9. True propaganda is the best kind.

[leftstreet]

10. A spokesperson for the Prime Minister says it's true

Link to tweet

?s=20

[kimbutgar]

11. I hope the spirits of those babies haunt their murders the rest of their lives

It would make a good horror movie and cautionary tale for evil people.

[treestar]

12. The skepticism is to be expected

the First World War - turned out the Belgian babies story wasn't true and was used to get the US into the war.

The first Gulf War had Saddam Hussein's forces killing babies in incubators.

The Israelis are also going to kill Palestinian babies and have in the past.

We need to take a side against all of them, not try to support one or the other. This has been going on for 60+ years at least. Both sides had claimed to be victims and both sides have committed atrocities. The military industrial complex benefits.

[csziggy]

23. Yes - I've been having flashbacks to the Gulf War claims about the babies in incubators

Which was disproved only after the US was involved with the war - and has been intertwined with Middle East politics ever since.

In 1992, the human rights organization Middle East Watch, a division of Human Rights Watch, published the results of their investigation of the incubator story. Its director, Andrew Whitley, told the press, "While it is true that the Iraqis targeted hospitals, there is no truth to the charge which was central to the war propaganda effort that they stole incubators and callously removed babies allowing them to die on the floor. The stories were manufactured from germs of truth by people outside the country who should have known better." One investigator, Aziz Abu-Hamad, interviewed doctors in the hospital where Nayirah claimed she witnessed Iraqi soldiers pull 15 infants from incubators and leave them to die. The Independent reported, "The doctors told him the maternity ward had 25 to 30 incubators. None was taken by the Iraqis, and no babies were taken from them."

Source cited in Wikipedia article: Leonard Doyle, "Iraqi Baby Atrocity is Revealed as Myth," The Independent (12 January 1992) p. 11

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony#Aftermath

[Wingus Dingus]

16. Sickening.

[inthewind21]

18. Turn on

tv? Really? So, right now CNN is the pillar of truth but in the next hour, well there will be a brigade complaining about them. So what TV should we all tune to for this 5 minutes?

[Tomconroy]

19. Whatever one I tell you.

Any other questions?

[inthewind21]

21. lol

Sure, you got any twitter outrages? how about TicTok? FB?????

[Tomconroy]

22. I have a lot. What do you bring to the table?