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Nevilledog

(55,078 posts)
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 02:48 PM Oct 2023

DOJ sues eBay for selling 'rolling coal' devices; fines could hit $2 billion

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/11/doj-sues-ebay-for-rolling-coal-devices-fines-could-hit-2-billion.html

Ebay could be on the hook for as much as $2 billion in fines for allegedly allowing hundreds of thousands of “rolling coal” pollution devices and other products that violate environmental laws to be sold on its platform.

Rolling coal is the practice of installing a tampering device to pump more diesel into a vehicle’s engine than it can handle, leading it to spew out sooty black clouds of exhaust that pollute the air.

The practice is sometimes used as a form of anti-environmental protest. Coal rollers, or the drivers who engage in the action, may intentionally target Teslas, Priuses or other electric or hybrid vehicles.

The Department of Justice, on behalf of the Environmental Protection Agency, filed a lawsuit claiming that the e-commerce giant enabled the sale of more than 343,000 rolling coal devices. Each sale could spur a fine of up to $5,580 under the Clean Air Act.

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DOJ sues eBay for selling 'rolling coal' devices; fines could hit $2 billion (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2023 OP
What took so long?????????? IA8IT Oct 2023 #1
+1 2naSalit Oct 2023 #9
great question. Evolve Dammit Oct 2023 #13
That's going to sting a bit VMA131Marine Oct 2023 #2
Wonder if they will try to claw back $$$ from sellers? getagrip_already Oct 2023 #3
Yep. I have a store there. progressoid Oct 2023 #6
They should also go after the buyers RAB910 Oct 2023 #4
And the sellers. progressoid Oct 2023 #5
Yes RAB910 Oct 2023 #8
Not sure on this specific law Zeitghost Oct 2023 #12
Good. themaguffin Oct 2023 #7
Finally. 2naSalit Oct 2023 #10
how about jail? AllaN01Bear Oct 2023 #11
Good! Marthe48 Oct 2023 #14
Yes! ShazzieB Oct 2023 #17
Good Old Crank Oct 2023 #15
YES! Makes strict emissions laws National. Duppers Oct 2023 #24
Really mind boggling there are 343,000 asshats that actually bought this shit (just on eBay!) ToxMarz Oct 2023 #16
Their abhorrent behavior The Wizard Oct 2023 #18
Indeed! 👍 Duppers Oct 2023 #25
eBay should have stuck with just selling PEZ dispensers Shermann Oct 2023 #19
I would love to see eBay fined $2 billion for selling these things DFW Oct 2023 #20
Take these shitheads down! ffr Oct 2023 #21
This is great edhopper Oct 2023 #22
Good. I hate eBay. onlyadream Oct 2023 #23
Sweeeet! TeamProg Oct 2023 #26
Fuckin' A Right. Then go after every maggot that bought one. NBachers Oct 2023 #27
Good! VGNonly Oct 2023 #28
'twould be a good start...👍 bringthePaine Oct 2023 #29

VMA131Marine

(5,269 posts)
2. That's going to sting a bit
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 02:56 PM
Oct 2023

eBay’s annual revenue is only $10B

Net income last year was -$1.27B

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
12. Not sure on this specific law
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 04:14 PM
Oct 2023

But with many of these kinds of things, it's often only illegal to sell them, not to buy or possess them.

I'm actually shocked they are illegal to sell. I'm fairly involved in aftermarket vehicle modifications and they generally label such products as "not for on-road use" as a loophole for sales.

ShazzieB

(22,582 posts)
17. Yes!
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 04:37 PM
Oct 2023

Imo, these things should be illegal to manufacture, import, sell, buy, or install in a vehicle, anywhere in the US. They're an abomination. Go after everybody involved!

Old Crank

(7,073 posts)
15. Good
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 04:21 PM
Oct 2023

And go after all teh buyers.

Make states to actual emmisions testing on diesel trucks not jsut a visual inspection of pollution devices.

Duppers

(28,469 posts)
24. YES! Makes strict emissions laws National.
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 05:10 PM
Oct 2023

Anyone using such a device is just advertising:

"I'm a DUMBASS."

ToxMarz

(2,929 posts)
16. Really mind boggling there are 343,000 asshats that actually bought this shit (just on eBay!)
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 04:31 PM
Oct 2023

That's probably a drop in the bucket for the number of asshats that are supporters of them.

The Wizard

(13,735 posts)
18. Their abhorrent behavior
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 04:38 PM
Oct 2023

is a juvenile stunt to own the libs. Everyone who bought one should be thrown in prison for endangering lives and the environment. It should be costly to be an asshole.

Shermann

(9,062 posts)
19. eBay should have stuck with just selling PEZ dispensers
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 04:43 PM
Oct 2023

Of course, Elon wouldn't have been able to then use them as a stepping stone.

DFW

(60,182 posts)
20. I would love to see eBay fined $2 billion for selling these things
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 04:52 PM
Oct 2023

They have this "wasn't MY doing" attitude about every nasty device, or fake collectible, or evil drug that anyone wants to post on their site. If they want to earn the money, let them do it by offering legitimate wares, not this kind of toy.

ffr

(23,398 posts)
21. Take these shitheads down!
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 05:03 PM
Oct 2023


Why can't people just row in the same direction so we can all get up the river safely? We have shitheads like these, rowing in opposite directions all creating havoc for everyone else.

We're a democracy because it should be majority rule. The minority doesn't get to piss all over everyone else without repercussions.

edhopper

(37,367 posts)
22. This is great
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 05:08 PM
Oct 2023

Bravo to the DOJ.

BUT, this will go to the Supreme Court and they will rule that the EPA cannot legally regulate the environmentno, and the DOJ has no legal standing to sue for them.

onlyadream

(2,248 posts)
23. Good. I hate eBay.
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 05:09 PM
Oct 2023

They banned me for life for no reason whatsoever. I merely created an account, hit submit and I was banned. An unfair practice.

VGNonly

(8,492 posts)
28. Good!
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 05:26 PM
Oct 2023

I dealt with a coal roller once. He dealt poorly, got popped by a cop for reckless driving!

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