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"We might never elect a Speaker" (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2023 OP
Both Scalise and Jordan are done? wryter2000 Oct 2023 #1
Stefanik underpants Oct 2023 #2
Yep FrankBooth Oct 2023 #5
Unsourced and unreliable brooklynite Oct 2023 #6
Huh? FrankBooth Oct 2023 #10
Tell me who "BNN Breaking" is..... brooklynite Oct 2023 #16
if she is Trump's #1, she will never be speaker.. DemocratInPa Oct 2023 #14
Gotta ask: When was their first clue? ancianita Oct 2023 #3
Filthy bdamomma Oct 2023 #4
That's one way to close the country down C_U_L8R Oct 2023 #7
If/when there is a shutdown because the 45day CR is up and there still isn't a goddamned Speaker RockRaven Oct 2023 #8
Oh, they'll elect a Speaker, and it'll be a Republican. Bob Livingston minus the affair DFW Oct 2023 #9
Name *one* of them who meets this criteria ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #19
Some of them belong to the party they do because it's the only game in town. DFW Oct 2023 #21
Once again, Repukes can't govern sakabatou Oct 2023 #11
Republicans break Congress. Baitball Blogger Oct 2023 #12
pretty much every sane person Celerity Oct 2023 #15
Must be the free block in the center of the Bingo card. Baitball Blogger Oct 2023 #18
You must have gotten the Wile E Coyote bingo card ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #20
death cult clown car steams ahead at rapid pace, with no hands on the wheel nor feet on the brakes Celerity Oct 2023 #13
If only working across the aisle weren't a capital crime. Qutzupalotl Oct 2023 #17
If things get any worse DFW Oct 2023 #22

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
1. Both Scalise and Jordan are done?
Thu Oct 12, 2023, 02:46 PM
Oct 2023

Let the few decent Republicans vote for Hakeem and get this done. Someone estimated there are 12 sane Republicans left.

bdamomma

(69,608 posts)
4. Filthy
Thu Oct 12, 2023, 02:56 PM
Oct 2023

Maga bastards, without no speaker nothing can be done. No aid to Ukraine or Israel. Other countries are watching this esp. Putin!!!!!

Our is credibility is waning because of our own domestic terrorists.

C_U_L8R

(49,499 posts)
7. That's one way to close the country down
Thu Oct 12, 2023, 03:15 PM
Oct 2023

Republicans should resign in shame. They are incompetent.

RockRaven

(19,684 posts)
8. If/when there is a shutdown because the 45day CR is up and there still isn't a goddamned Speaker
Thu Oct 12, 2023, 03:42 PM
Oct 2023

it should be noted that it would only take 5 House Repukes to prevent a shutdown (by selecting a Dem Speaker and passing a CR, then -- if they insist, and they would -- immediately re-vacating the Speaker's chair with all R votes), and it wouldn't rely on those five Rs trusting Ds in any way. Those aisle-crossers would remain in control, because of their ability to yank the Speakership at any time.

Remember that if there is a shutdown because there still isn't a Speaker. It would only be happening because 98% of House Rs would rather have a government shutdown than behave like a responsible adult.

And because of the majority-minority asymmetry in ability to kick the Speaker out, it does not follow that Dems should cross the aisle to select a R speaker, because once in place they would need R votes to hold that Speaker to account for any broken promises or agreement. That a non-starter, there is no such reservoir of trust.

DFW

(60,375 posts)
9. Oh, they'll elect a Speaker, and it'll be a Republican. Bob Livingston minus the affair
Thu Oct 12, 2023, 03:44 PM
Oct 2023

In other words, a nobody out of nowhere, who will embarrass nobody, offend nobody, impress nobody, and BE nobody. The lightning rods draw just that, and at some point, the rest of them will get tired of being fried in the court of public opinion. Like the slogan goes, Democracy dies in darkness, and the Republicans are having too much light on them for the moment for democracy to die (their goal).

House Republicans are not the passengers on Flight 93. They will not crash their plane to save anyone else, certainly not the country or the government. Any Republican House member who votes for Hakeem for Speaker might as well switch parties now, and have a seat on the board of Dow Chemical or AT&T waiting on January 3, 2025.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
19. Name *one* of them who meets this criteria
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:38 AM
Oct 2023
a nobody out of nowhere, who will embarrass nobody, offend nobody, impress nobody, and BE nobody


Even the "nobodies" are adept at being offensive, embarrassing and not at all impressive. Why do you think they belong to the party they do?

DFW

(60,375 posts)
21. Some of them belong to the party they do because it's the only game in town.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 06:23 AM
Oct 2023

Sort of like how useless it is to be a Republican on Cape Cod--or a Democrat in northern Idaho.

I don't know if there IS a House Republican who meets those criteria, but it's the only thing that will keep the speaker's gavel in their hands AND give a ghost of a chance to get anything done.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
20. You must have gotten the Wile E Coyote bingo card
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:43 AM
Oct 2023

Because I know that plenty of people are like this about their cards:

Celerity

(54,790 posts)
13. death cult clown car steams ahead at rapid pace, with no hands on the wheel nor feet on the brakes
Thu Oct 12, 2023, 04:01 PM
Oct 2023

Qutzupalotl

(15,849 posts)
17. If only working across the aisle weren't a capital crime.
Thu Oct 12, 2023, 04:45 PM
Oct 2023

They could pick a moderate R and peel off a few D votes.

Oh well. Guess they'll keep churning out crazies.

DFW

(60,375 posts)
22. If things get any worse
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 06:27 AM
Oct 2023

Republicans will put up a death strip and armed towers at the aisle to make sure none of their members cross the border without written permission from the party bosses, just like their socialist role models in East Germany.

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