Arab support for Palestinians swelled by euphoria over Hamas blow to Israel

[Mosby]

In mosques, soccer stadiums and towns across the Arab world, pro-Palestinian sentiment has surged after a shocking, deadly Hamas terror attack on Israel that has killed at least a thousand people, sparking a groundswell of solidarity for the Palestinians.

From Ramallah to Beirut, Damascus, Baghdad and Cairo, people have distributed candies, danced and chanted prayers in support of the “resistance” to Israel’s long-standing control of Palestinian land.

"My entire life, I have seen Israel kill us, confiscate our lands and arrest our children,” said Farah al-Saadi, a 52-year-old coffee vendor from Ramallah in the Israeli-held West Bank.

“I was pleased by what Hamas did,” said the man, whose son is in Israeli detention, adding, however, that he feared the scale of “Israeli crimes in Gaza” in retaliation.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/arab-support-for-palestinians-swelled-by-euphoria-over-hamas-blow-to-israel/

[no_hypocrisy]

1. MbS will put his finger in the air,

and may reconsider his options.

[Lovie777]

2. No surprise there.....................

expected, major watch tho.

[hlthe2b]

3. Yet a former President (not by my choice) found this the time to express his admiration for Hezbolla

and by extension, Hamas, while tearing into Israel because of his own perceived personal slights, expressing not a damned bit of compassion for the dead/wounded/abducted-- even those Americans.

Maybe we should pack TFG up and send him to Ramallah or Beirut, or Damascus, Baghdad...or my preference Riyadh, to mouth off among the masses.

[dalton99a]

24. .

[SunSeeker]

4. So then why don't Arab countries take in Palestinian refugees?

Why has Egypt sealed its border to them as they try to escape the bombing?

[Big Blue Marble]

8. Have you studied the history of the Indigouness People of Palestine?

1. They do not want to be refugees they want to live in the areas that were given them in 1948.

2. There are already huge refugee camps in the surrounding countries. Generations of Palestinians
who were displaced in 1948 continue to live in these camps even now. These are poor countries that can
barely take care of their own people. How can you ask them to take in 2 millionmore refugees?

3. Egypt and the people of Gaza rightly fear Israel will not let them come home as they
refused to allow people who left to return in 1848 while confiscating their homes and property.

I suggest you take the time to study this part of history from all sides to give a better perspective.

[SunSeeker]

11. Oh come on. No family wants to stay when bombs are dropping.

Please don't lecture me on "perspective." My perspective is just fine. I'm for saving people. If they get blown to bits, they can't return to their homes either. At least they'll have a chance to return if they survive the ground assault. Biden has been trying to negotiate with Egypt to give them safe passage, and I imagine that would come with resources. So far, it's still a no. Egypt's indifference is mind-boggling.

[Big Blue Marble]

13. As I said

study the full history of these people. Your indifference is mind-boggling.

[SunSeeker]

16. I am not indifferent about their lives.

That would be you, who thinks they should stay there and die to prove a political point.

Egypt is totally capable of saving their lives and refuses to do so. And you're making excuses for their indifference.

[Big Blue Marble]

17. Do not put words in my mouth.

I do not think they should or go. I am saying what the situation is for these people.

Some will stay because they can not leave because they are wounded, or old or have
no way out. Some will stay because their future is so bleak and they would rather die.

Egypt can barely care for their own people. How would they take in more? And you are
missing the obvious fact that Israel will not allow them to leave for fear that Hamas
fighters would escape.

Perhaps instead of harassing me, you could practice empathy and imagine what you would
do as a young mother with many small children or and elderly man who is a diabetic.

Stop dehumanizing these people for your own sake.

[SunSeeker]

19. You're the one who came at me accusing me of being indifferent to Palestinian lives.

Talk about putting words in someone's mouth! I was the one asking why the Egyptians, who are along Gaza's southern border, won't let them at least escape to Egypt temporarily so they can survive the bombing.

You jumped in with 2 contradictory explanations: 1. The Palestinians don't want to leave, and 2. The Egyptians are too poor to let them in.

You appear to be looking to argue with someone you want to accuse of "dehumanizing" Palestinians. That person is not me. I'm just trying to figure out why Palestinian lives can't be saved by opening up the Egyptian border like Poland did for Ukraine. And me asking that simple question set you off for some reason.

I'm really not interested in arguing with you. It is just not productive at this point.

[maxsolomon]

5. I don't think many of us find this surprising.

The Arab Muslim world has been opposed to Israel's existence for decades.

They feel attacked and humiliated as a culture and as a religion; they embrace atrocities as justice. We've been living this reality for my entire life.

[BlueCheeseAgain]

6. Celebrating the killing of civilians, though?

I can see celebrating a military victory. But hearing that children were killed and then giving out candy to celebrate? That seems odd to me.

[maxsolomon]

7. 9/11 was celebrated across the Muslim world.

It's quite precedented.

[inthewind21]

9. Speaking

of 9/11. How did the US reaction of that work out and how do you think this one will be different?

[BlueCheeseAgain]

10. In retrospect, to me, anyway...

It was clear Al Qaeda had to be completely destroyed. Given that they were being hosted by the Taliban, it was necessary to enter Afghanistan. The first part of that went reasonably well-- the Taliban was toppled and Al Qaeda was crippled.

After that was the problem. Iraq was of course a huge mistake from the beginning and irrelevant to the entire process of combating Al Qaeda. But what should we have done about Afghanistan after chasing out Al Qaeda? That I still don't know. Staying behind and trying to establish a new country there failed. Is it because it was never going to work, or because we did it badly? Could we have simply declared victory and left, leaving behind a power vacuum that might have been settled by civil war? I certainly don't know.

[Happy Hoosier]

12. Not a surprise...

… but it does not reflect well on them.

[DavidDvorkin]

14. Charming.

[Elessar Zappa]

15. Ok, so those countries should be opening their borders to Gaza refugees.

[eissa]

20. They did and paid the price

Palestinians brought nothing but havoc to Lebanon and Jordan in years past. Many Arab nations fear a repeat, which is why they prefer to have their refugees - be they Palestinian, Syrian or Iraqi - go to Europe instead. We are currently on vacation in Germany and Holland. These same people who deride the western nations that welcomed them are deafeningly silent about the Arab governments they escaped from.

[SunSeeker]

21. I've been wondering why Egypt won't let Palestinians come across.

I have been researching it tonight, and it appears, at least per CNN, that Egypt is not opening its borders to Palestinians for political reasons.

[Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-]Sisi echoed those sentiments on Thursday. “There is a danger” when it comes to Gaza, he said – “a danger so big because it means an end to this (Palestinian) cause… It is important that (Gaza’s) people remain standing and on their land.”

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/13/middleeast/egypt-rafah-crossing-gaza-palestinians-mime-intl/index.html

Egypt, like Hamas, is willing to sacrifice Palestinian families for the political cause of creating a Palestinian state. They're afraid it will be harder to create that Palestinian state if Gaza is depopulated.

[Arazi]

22. That's the official line

Which is bullshit of course since they’re happy to force the Palestinians to stay in place to take a stand many may not want to take.

The unofficial reality is that when they’ve opened the gates to Palestinian refugees in the past, the terrorists amongst them have launched terrorist attacks in Egypt (and Jordan etc). Hell, the last time they came to Jordan they tried to assassinate the king.

Nobody will let them in for fear of a radicalized population.

[SunSeeker]

25. Well, it's definitely not that that they are unable to take in migrants.

Egypt hosts 9 million migrants already. The largest groups in the country’s migrant population are from Sudan, Syria, Yemen and Libya.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/13/middleeast/egypt-rafah-crossing-gaza-palestinians-mime-intl/index.html

But they won't take in any Palestinians.

[GuppyGal]

18. You best be afraid Jack ....you better be very afraid. See they don't give a shit about their kids

[EX500rider]

23. "Hamas blow to Israel" ie slaughtering civilians 😞

[LexVegas]

26. Shocking. nt