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Hamas displays child hostages (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2023 OP
Kick n/t emulatorloo Oct 2023 #1
Apologists showing up in 3 - 2 - 1 Hekate Oct 2023 #2
They will skip this thread or call it "boo hoo propaganda" or crow "the best propaganda is real". Behind the Aegis Oct 2023 #15
Nah, now they're just saying it's not real Arazi Oct 2023 #19
Didn't take long. EllieBC Oct 2023 #51
Those barbarians. Israel has every right to do whatever it takes to totally eliminate Hamas and totodeinhere Oct 2023 #3
"bismillah" isn't antisemitic -- I have no idea why Ed said that obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #4
It is forcing the Jewish kid to praise allah. Did you not notice that? NoRethugFriends Oct 2023 #7
Pretty much kwolf68 Oct 2023 #8
Allah just means God! All three Abrahamic religions worship teh same God obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #18
No they don't Mosby Oct 2023 #39
Cool thing about Abrahamitic Religions... DiamondShark Oct 2023 #52
Exacept Allah is God -- Jews, Christians, Muslims all worship teh same God obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #16
Allah just means "God" Mossfern Oct 2023 #25
+1 leftstreet Oct 2023 #10
Of course kwolf68 Oct 2023 #17
Buts Jews believe in Allah -- as do Christians obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #20
If you sneeze and someone says God Bless You.. leftstreet Oct 2023 #23
No, people actually think Allah is a different God obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #29
This is just insane leftstreet Oct 2023 #31
I'm fucking shocked too Just_Vote_Dem Oct 2023 #37
I'm shocked that you don't know about the trinity. Mosby Oct 2023 #41
nice try n/t leftstreet Oct 2023 #42
Do you know what the trinity is? Mosby Oct 2023 #43
Does your browser let you access Google? leftstreet Oct 2023 #45
Kidnapping a child and forcing him into a different culture. sarisataka Oct 2023 #21
To be precise the word isn't antisemitic sarisataka Oct 2023 #11
I never said teh action wasn't, I am saying teh word isn't obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #24
Ah. Well I'm glad we got that totally unimportant detail sorted. BannonsLiver Oct 2023 #13
Why do you talk to people like this? obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #26
Probably because there was more concern displayed for minutiae than what was going on. BannonsLiver Oct 2023 #30
+10000 Just_Vote_Dem Oct 2023 #34
Jews, Christians, Muslims all worship the same God leftstreet Oct 2023 #40
It's a weird career day Sympthsical Oct 2023 #46
... BannonsLiver Oct 2023 #47
Assholes AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #5
+ a million Just_Vote_Dem Oct 2023 #38
The usual suspects will find a way to justify this NT Ex Lurker Oct 2023 #6
The world rightly condemns the kidnapping of children. 70sEraVet Oct 2023 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Oct 2023 #12
where? maxsolomon Oct 2023 #22
Look upthread NT Ex Lurker Oct 2023 #27
Tell me how I "both sided it"qI condemend the actions of these terrorists, and factchecked teh rest obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #35
quibbling over whether 'bismillah' is inherently anti-semetic isn't 'bothsidesim'. maxsolomon Oct 2023 #36
fucking monsters rollin74 Oct 2023 #14
Is this being reported by anyone other than Krassenstein? leftstreet Oct 2023 #28
Well there is a video from Hamas sarisataka Oct 2023 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Oct 2023 #53
No, I can't find any chain of custody obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #33
More seem to be concerned with the meaning of a word sarisataka Oct 2023 #44
This should not be in GD UpInArms Oct 2023 #48
Sickening Johnny2X2X Oct 2023 #49
I hope this isn't real. herding cats Oct 2023 #50
Their parents are probably dead. Ace Rothstein Oct 2023 #54
TOTALLY agree with you! nt Raine Oct 2023 #55

Behind the Aegis

(56,108 posts)
15. They will skip this thread or call it "boo hoo propaganda" or crow "the best propaganda is real".
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 02:51 PM
Oct 2023

EllieBC

(3,639 posts)
51. Didn't take long.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 04:25 PM
Oct 2023

Never does.

I take comfort in the fact the antisemites will never be happy because we aren’t going anywhere.

totodeinhere

(13,688 posts)
3. Those barbarians. Israel has every right to do whatever it takes to totally eliminate Hamas and
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 02:40 PM
Oct 2023

make sure that Hamas can never again initiate terrorist attacks.

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
4. "bismillah" isn't antisemitic -- I have no idea why Ed said that
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 02:40 PM
Oct 2023

My friends who are Muslim say it before they eat or drink, like this.



kwolf68

(8,452 posts)
8. Pretty much
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 02:45 PM
Oct 2023

I think this is antisemitic to have a Jewish child say this. All about the fucking religion.
 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
39. No they don't
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 03:04 PM
Oct 2023

Christians worship a triune God. Muslims worship the God of Ibrahim, Ishmael and Jacob. Jews worship the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob


DiamondShark

(1,167 posts)
52. Cool thing about Abrahamitic Religions...
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 03:08 PM
Oct 2023

They all start the same, but diverge at the man called Abram.

Neat, huh.

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
16. Exacept Allah is God -- Jews, Christians, Muslims all worship teh same God
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 02:51 PM
Oct 2023

There are plenty things to denounce in thsi video, but not that. Ed has even walked it back. He was wrong.

Mossfern

(4,716 posts)
25. Allah just means "God"
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 02:54 PM
Oct 2023

Arabian Jews say "Allah" - there is no desecration.
Observant Jews also thank God (Allah) before they drink or eat.

leftstreet

(40,681 posts)
10. +1
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 02:48 PM
Oct 2023

bismillah just means in the name of god

It could have been a word that meant "in the name of Disneyland" and some idiot would decide it's anti-Semitic

kwolf68

(8,452 posts)
17. Of course
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 02:52 PM
Oct 2023

Jews speak to God, I am sure that's what this Muslim creep wanted him to say and not "Allah be with Me". Making the kid say something is honestly not a huge deal, it's just needling Jewish people, "look we are making your kids praise Allah", goofy religious bullshit.

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
20. Buts Jews believe in Allah -- as do Christians
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 02:53 PM
Oct 2023

It literally is just the Arabic word for the Abrahamic God.

Lots of stuff to denounce, but this is stretching it.

leftstreet

(40,681 posts)
23. If you sneeze and someone says God Bless You..
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 02:54 PM
Oct 2023

...do you say "which God?"

JFC has no one in the western world ever been to the mid east?

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
29. No, people actually think Allah is a different God
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 02:59 PM
Oct 2023

It is the same God all Abrahamic religions worship: Jews, Muslims, Christians. The Hamas assholes did not say, "Praise Zeus!" Or Satan, or whomever. It is God. It is the Arabic word for God.

There are people in Ed's tweet thread saying Jews don't worship Allah. YES THEY DO.

I almost didn't even post this, because I knew I would be attacked and I am, so am bailing from the thread. Thank you, Leftstreet.

 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
41. I'm shocked that you don't know about the trinity.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 03:06 PM
Oct 2023

Jews and Muslims don't believe that stuff.

 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
43. Do you know what the trinity is?
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 03:16 PM
Oct 2023
What Does it Mean That God is a Trinity? The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons — the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Stated differently, God is one in essence and three in person
.

Jews and Muslims don't accept Jesus or whatever the holy ghost is. Some rabbis I know don't even consider Christianity monotheistic.

leftstreet

(40,681 posts)
45. Does your browser let you access Google?
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 03:44 PM
Oct 2023

You can easily search for this information, from scholarly articles to simple Wikipedia entries.

Search for Abrahamic religions.

You'll find instantly that Christians, Muslims and Jews all worship the same God.

(The trinity you referred to is specific to Christians)



sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
21. Kidnapping a child and forcing him into a different culture.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 02:53 PM
Oct 2023

It kind of reminds me of the Indian schools, wouldn't you agree?

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
24. I never said teh action wasn't, I am saying teh word isn't
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 02:54 PM
Oct 2023

Ed said it was an Antisemitic slur, and it isn't. He has walked his claim back.

We are on teh same page here.

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
26. Why do you talk to people like this?
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 02:56 PM
Oct 2023

It's every reply. Nothing I said earned this reply from you.

I think calling something a slur that isn't a slur is an important detail. I think Hamas asking teh kids to do this si beyond disgusting, but teh word is not a slur.

leftstreet

(40,681 posts)
40. Jews, Christians, Muslims all worship the same God
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 03:04 PM
Oct 2023

This is NOT minutiae for that grifter Krassentein to suggest otherwise

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
46. It's a weird career day
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 03:45 PM
Oct 2023

"What do you want to be when you grow up?"

"I'd like to referee how antisemitic a child's kidnapping is!"

"Oh! We can do that. Let's get you enrolled in sociology first . . ."

70sEraVet

(5,482 posts)
9. The world rightly condemns the kidnapping of children.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 02:46 PM
Oct 2023

Hamas leaders and Putin should be prosecuted for these crimes.

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
35. Tell me how I "both sided it"qI condemend the actions of these terrorists, and factchecked teh rest
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 03:02 PM
Oct 2023

Ed has even walked it back. IT IS NOT A SLUR.

I am fucking sick of people on her making comments and implications that anyone saying ANYTHING correcting inaccuracies are pro Hamas, etc.

Fuck that.

maxsolomon

(38,729 posts)
36. quibbling over whether 'bismillah' is inherently anti-semetic isn't 'bothsidesim'.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 03:03 PM
Oct 2023

do you think those posters believe kidnapping children is justified? they don't.

Response to sarisataka (Reply #32)

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
33. No, I can't find any chain of custody
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 03:00 PM
Oct 2023

I am NOT saying it isn't what it seems to be, but a source is always good. PM me if you find anything.

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
44. More seem to be concerned with the meaning of a word
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 03:29 PM
Oct 2023

Than the fact that these children are kidnapped and being held hostage.

How many have said guns shouldn't be around children, but the (caretakers? ) are walking around with loaded AKs

I am glad these children are alive and appear to be healthy. If Hamas wanted to gain an iota of goodwill, they could simply release the children. Or if that is too much, maybe Israel would resume the water it supplied in exchange for the children.

Johnny2X2X

(24,207 posts)
49. Sickening
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 04:02 PM
Oct 2023

Those are people’s babies. I can’t imagine the anguish family members are feeling.

herding cats

(20,049 posts)
50. I hope this isn't real.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 04:17 PM
Oct 2023

Because if it is then those babies were taken from the loving protection of their parents to be used as some sort of sick propaganda pawns. To me it looks like the older boy possibly has a quick wash to make him presentable judging by how his shirt is wet. Then there's the juggling of the baby while holding the gun. Yeah, they're true humanitarians.

I won't speculate as to the location or status of the parents since I don't know.

Ace Rothstein

(3,373 posts)
54. Their parents are probably dead.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 03:19 PM
Oct 2023

The kid who is wet probably had their blood on him and it was washed off of him.

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