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Nevilledog

(55,080 posts)
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 04:08 PM Oct 2023

An Alabama woman was imprisoned for 'endangering' her fetus. She gave birth in a jail shower

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/13/alabama-pregnant-woman-jail-lawsuit

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In March 2021, sheriffs in Etowah county, Alabama, arrested Ashley Caswell on accusations that she’d tested positive for methamphetamine while pregnant and was “endangering” her fetus.

Caswell, who was two months pregnant at the time, became one of a growing number of women imprisoned in the county in the name of protecting their “unborn children”.

But over the next seven months of incarceration for “chemical endangerment” in the Etowah county detention center (ECDC), Caswell was denied regular access to prenatal visits, even as officials were aware her pregnancy was high-risk due to her hypertension and abnormal pap smears, according to a lawsuit filed on Friday against the county and the sheriff’s department. She was also denied her prescribed psychiatric medication and slept on a thin mat on the concrete floor of the detention center for her entire pregnancy.

In October, when her water broke and she pleaded to be taken to a hospital, her lawyer says, officials told her to “sleep it off” and “wait until Monday” to deliver – two days away.

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An Alabama woman was imprisoned for 'endangering' her fetus. She gave birth in a jail shower (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2023 OP
Repugs feel the need to punish-always. louis-t Oct 2023 #1
+1 peppertree Oct 2023 #58
the 'pro-birth' swine don't care about life pfitz59 Oct 2023 #2
Well, at least they wear that mask! COL Mustard Oct 2023 #43
Tommy Tommy Tommy Old man take a look at yourself. Nice state you got there. IA8IT Oct 2023 #3
Under His Eye... nolabear Oct 2023 #4
And Repubs scream because a medicare fraudster might be held accountable. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2023 #13
Love the fetus, hate the child maspaha Oct 2023 #5
And the mother, too nilram Oct 2023 #55
Pregnant mares are more valuable than human women Hekate Oct 2023 #6
... Delphinus Oct 2023 #40
Imprisoned for 'endangering' fetus... sheshe2 Oct 2023 #7
One wonders if the jailers could not also be prosecuted under the same law. EarnestPutz Oct 2023 #11
Equal protection dickthegrouch Oct 2023 #22
Wait til Monday??? Silver Gaia Oct 2023 #8
Well, if she's in jail for endangerment, how about the guard? elias7 Oct 2023 #24
Right? Once your water breaks, you need to give birth within hours or else risk lethal infection. SunSeeker Oct 2023 #28
Apparently they have no clue how labor and delivery work. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2023 #51
Solid proof this is about controlling women and nothing to do with the unborn Coventina Oct 2023 #9
+1 redqueen Oct 2023 #32
Exactly!l as it's always been and always will be. mountain grammy Oct 2023 #41
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2023 #52
Flee Alabama orangecrush Oct 2023 #10
Wow! Too bad there isn't a way this behavior can't be stop in the way I am thinking. LiberalFighter Oct 2023 #12
And here we go. Harker Oct 2023 #14
Jay's . Fukking . Kee-rist Stinky The Clown Oct 2023 #15
um................. Takket Oct 2023 #16
But the mother fuckers who tried to steal an election are free to be in congress and continue the onecaliberal Oct 2023 #17
Ain't that the truth. n/t iluvtennis Oct 2023 #25
Now, another baby that will grow up for the grinder. 4lbs Oct 2023 #18
Thanks for posting this. As Carlin said, the conservatives are 'anti-woman', not 'pro-life'. n/t iluvtennis Oct 2023 #27
The baby survived in this case, but it was deprived of oxygen which means that it will likely Lonestarblue Oct 2023 #19
As long as the baby is "minimally exceptional" he will be fine to them. 4lbs Oct 2023 #23
"sleep it off" Like the crap you get from a football coach. Grins Oct 2023 #20
Abolish the PIC. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2023 #21
Abolish the what? ShazzieB Oct 2023 #42
prison industrial complex , I believe. niyad Oct 2023 #44
Oh, okay. That makes sense! ShazzieB Oct 2023 #46
#1 - Fire the lawyer. #2 - Get a new lawyer to sue anyone and everyone involved in denying her Vinca Oct 2023 #26
I hope she and her child get a lot of money from these assholes. SunSeeker Oct 2023 #29
This is barbarism. Mickju Oct 2023 #30
This is Alabama. paleotn Oct 2023 #31
Alabama is the anus of the USA. For sure. PatrickforB Oct 2023 #33
Alabama--the perineum of America...... lastlib Oct 2023 #34
taint that the truth! JoseBalow Oct 2023 #36
That Etowah County jail was featured on a season "60 Days In" on A&E network JoseBalow Oct 2023 #35
Oh, my word Warpy Oct 2023 #37
What century is this, again? Kid Berwyn Oct 2023 #38
Alabama's Senator doesn't even live in Alabama. bronxiteforever Oct 2023 #39
Now we know what right wingers consider adequate medical care for the fetus. keithbvadu2 Oct 2023 #45
Welcome to the land if the Handmaid's Tale. cstanleytech Oct 2023 #47
Logic wryter2000 Oct 2023 #48
Alabama; goddamn. Magoo48 Oct 2023 #49
K&R Solly Mack Oct 2023 #50
Sleep it off? peggysue2 Oct 2023 #53
Sure--tell the baby to hold off for two days. pandr32 Oct 2023 #54
Republicans are dreadful monsters AllyCat Oct 2023 #56
Alabama -- the very bottom of the barrel. byronius Oct 2023 #57

peppertree

(23,343 posts)
58. +1
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 03:06 PM
Oct 2023

The fetus is simply their new favorite cudgel.

Now - bring up the need to fund better pre-natal care, and they start screaming "Soshilism!"

COL Mustard

(8,218 posts)
43. Well, at least they wear that mask!
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:56 PM
Oct 2023

They sure as hell didn't want to wear a mask for COVID.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
4. Under His Eye...
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 04:24 PM
Oct 2023

No wonder the world is in a deep depression. Power is being exerted at what you’d expect to be a criminal level. But no. Desperate women are the criminals.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,412 posts)
13. And Repubs scream because a medicare fraudster might be held accountable.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 04:49 PM
Oct 2023

It's not just a boys club, it's a sindicate - "A loose affiliation of gangsters in control of organized criminal activities."

sheshe2

(97,626 posts)
7. Imprisoned for 'endangering' fetus...
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 04:32 PM
Oct 2023

so they proceeded to 'endanger' not just the fetus but the mother.

dickthegrouch

(4,527 posts)
22. Equal protection
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 05:06 PM
Oct 2023

Says they should be. Part of the same crime. Accomplices after the fact. Making medical decisions without a license. Prescribed “treatment “ without qualifications. I’m sure real attorneys could come up with a whole raft of appropriate charges for the custodial staff to answer to.
I’d love to see the Inmate try to press those charges.

elias7

(4,229 posts)
24. Well, if she's in jail for endangerment, how about the guard?
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 05:19 PM
Oct 2023

Whoever said wait until Monday put both mother and fetus at grave risk, graver than a hit of meth.

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
28. Right? Once your water breaks, you need to give birth within hours or else risk lethal infection.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 05:36 PM
Oct 2023

That's what my obstetrician told me when my water broke. She said if I didn't push my son out, they would open me up. I pushed that boy out!

Harker

(17,785 posts)
14. And here we go.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 04:50 PM
Oct 2023

The Supreme Court has a lot to answer for, and don't think they are answerable to anyone but their masters.

Takket

(23,715 posts)
16. um.................
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 04:51 PM
Oct 2023

The Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution states: “Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.”

how in the world does denying someone the medical care they need to ensure a safe pregnancy because... and I cannot over-stress the absurdity of this... the law is supposedly saying SHE is endangering the fetus... not a violation of her 8th amendment rights???

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
17. But the mother fuckers who tried to steal an election are free to be in congress and continue the
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 04:52 PM
Oct 2023

coup. Fuck this country.

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
18. Now, another baby that will grow up for the grinder.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 04:53 PM
Oct 2023

As George Carlin said, "Pro-Life" idiots want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers.



iluvtennis

(21,497 posts)
27. Thanks for posting this. As Carlin said, the conservatives are 'anti-woman', not 'pro-life'. n/t
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 05:24 PM
Oct 2023

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
19. The baby survived in this case, but it was deprived of oxygen which means that it will likely
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 04:58 PM
Oct 2023

have developmental issues that may be impossible to overcome. The right wing evangelicals have now criminalized pregnancy, as we knew they would after Roe was overturned because they have always been more about control and forcing women to be nothing more than baby machines. It’s no wonder Alabama has one of the highest maternal death rates in this country.

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
23. As long as the baby is "minimally exceptional" he will be fine to them.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 05:17 PM
Oct 2023

They will raise him on guns, ammo, and violent games so that when time comes, he can be their very own Forrest Gump and join the military.

Grins

(9,459 posts)
20. "sleep it off" Like the crap you get from a football coach.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 05:01 PM
Oct 2023

“Walk it off! Get back in the he game.”

Not much different…

Vinca

(53,994 posts)
26. #1 - Fire the lawyer. #2 - Get a new lawyer to sue anyone and everyone involved in denying her
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 05:23 PM
Oct 2023

access to a hospital for labor and delivery and treated her like an animal for the duration of the pregnancy.

Mickju

(1,823 posts)
30. This is barbarism.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 05:56 PM
Oct 2023

And I'll bet they all consider themselves to be Christians. I couldn't be more disgusted.

PatrickforB

(15,425 posts)
33. Alabama is the anus of the USA. For sure.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:11 PM
Oct 2023

And these jails. God help you if you get sent to jail because they absolutely do not give a shit. Not at all. Their whole medical 'care' thing in prisons is about COST SAVINGS instead of helping the prisoners with what they need.

Let's hope ACLU and the SPLC sue the hell out of Etowah county and those fucks have to pay out several million.

JoseBalow

(9,488 posts)
35. That Etowah County jail was featured on a season "60 Days In" on A&E network
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:34 PM
Oct 2023

What a horrendous overcrowded filthy shit-hole that place is!

And the sheriff is colossal douche, just a terrible fascist reprobate.

I've watched every season of 60 Days In, and that jail has been by far the worst.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
37. Oh, my word
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:36 PM
Oct 2023

WHAT THE FUCK ARE THOSE ASSHOLES THINKING?

Oh, there better be a lawsuit over this one and it better be a doozy which will kick that county hard enough that everybody in charge of that place is fired and the rule book completely rewritten.





bronxiteforever

(11,212 posts)
39. Alabama's Senator doesn't even live in Alabama.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:39 PM
Oct 2023

That is how bad the GOP has governed the state.

peggysue2

(12,533 posts)
53. Sleep it off?
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 12:00 PM
Oct 2023

Just another example of the heralded 'pro-life' stance. Misogyny at its finest: Cruelty, ignorance and a total indifference to the welfare of women and/or their children.

Despicable!

pandr32

(14,272 posts)
54. Sure--tell the baby to hold off for two days.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 12:38 PM
Oct 2023

My gawd! Women who are pregnant need to have easy access to support and care.
Sure, drug use needs to be controlled, but not like this.

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