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TomDaisy

(2,008 posts)
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 04:34 PM Oct 2023

All the dominoes are falling exactly as Netanyahu planned it years ago

By strengthening Hamas, Netanyahu recklessly gambled on the lives of Israelis – and in fact, last Shabbat, more than 1,000 of them paid the price of that foolish gamble with their lives / Dmitry Shumsky









Netanyahu made sure Palestinians didn't have a moderate leader. He made sure it was Hamas so he could smear all Palestinians with it, turn world outrage against them, then brutalize/attack/kill them like he is doing now to drive them out of Gaza completely and forever.


A leaked video from 2001 shows Netanyahu recounting how he manipulated America and American presidents, how he sabotaged the Oslo Accords and how he has been intentionally striking Palestinians to terrorize them ever since.





When you talk about "pure evil" make sure you include Netanyahu. He wanted what happened on Saturday to happen so that he could use it for his own violent purposes.















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All the dominoes are falling exactly as Netanyahu planned it years ago (Original Post) TomDaisy Oct 2023 OP
Check out Hamas' charter if you think they could have a more moderate leader NoRethugFriends Oct 2023 #1
The OP says "Palestinians" not "Hamas" in the "moderate leader" line... nt RockRaven Oct 2023 #3
Blaming Jews for the hatred perpetrated against them is millenia old. nt LexVegas Oct 2023 #2
Bibi chose this strategy, by his own words, and by the words of the main newspaper in Israel. TomDaisy Oct 2023 #4
Sure. It's all a big plot. Hamas is just a pawn of the Jewish state. nt LexVegas Oct 2023 #7
or you could actually read the article TomDaisy Oct 2023 #8
Which X post has the article link? ancianita Oct 2023 #26
Haaretz is one newspaper in Israel, and a left-leaning one. BlueCheeseAgain Oct 2023 #28
The main newspaper in Israel? Haaretz? former9thward Oct 2023 #36
Second verse same as the first sarisataka Oct 2023 #9
or you could just watch the video of Netanyahu admitting it TomDaisy Oct 2023 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author sarisataka Oct 2023 #17
I have a busy evening planned. sarisataka Oct 2023 #18
ok I'll take that as an admission you know I'm right. TomDaisy Oct 2023 #19
Uh huh. Elessar Zappa Oct 2023 #5
And then why did Netanyahu go to such lengths to support them. TomDaisy Oct 2023 #6
Elessar Zappa, your refusal to see Netanyahu's part in this suggests you are determined to ignore Martin68 Oct 2023 #11
EXACTLY TomDaisy Oct 2023 #13
that is exactly what Netanyahu hopes TomDaisy Oct 2023 #14
What does Hamas mzmolly Oct 2023 #32
mzmolly, I think Hamas has several objectives. The first is revenge for previous bombings Martin68 Oct 2023 #34
The murder of innocent people is not the proper way mzmolly Oct 2023 #37
No, murder is not the proper way to solve any problem. But I understand the anger, frustration, and Martin68 Oct 2023 #38
I understand anger and frustration on both mzmolly Oct 2023 #39
Exactly nt redqueen Oct 2023 #20
And Hamas took the bait! SouthernDem4ever Oct 2023 #21
I agree with this point of view. Earth-shine Oct 2023 #25
This is 100% correct. Meanwhile, Netanyahu is dismantling democracy as he castrates the Supreme Martin68 Oct 2023 #10
it's hard to put into words how evil this man is, how much killing he has caused. TomDaisy Oct 2023 #15
and let's not forget how he backstabbed Obama by addressing Congress without his consent TomDaisy Oct 2023 #16
I will never forget, nor forgive Netanyahu and the Republican Congress-critters for Martin68 Oct 2023 #35
I'll have to trust the citizens of Israel to sort this all out. GuppyGal Oct 2023 #22
Would explain why him ignoring multiple intelligence reports seems so LIHOP. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2023 #23
Good point! ancianita Oct 2023 #27
Ha'aretz has been attacking Netanyahu since day one. He deserves it. ancianita Oct 2023 #24
His career is over now. Mosby Oct 2023 #29
sometimes you need to create your "opportunity crisis" yourself. Well played Bibi. ZonkerHarris Oct 2023 #30
Someone should let Hamas know. mzmolly Oct 2023 #31
The video of Netanyahu mzmolly Oct 2023 #33

NoRethugFriends

(2,388 posts)
1. Check out Hamas' charter if you think they could have a more moderate leader
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 04:37 PM
Oct 2023

Not to say the Bibi is not a corrupt piece of crap who enabled the ultra-orthodox to screw things up more.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,654 posts)
28. Haaretz is one newspaper in Israel, and a left-leaning one.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 07:02 PM
Oct 2023

It's a good paper-- I've been reading if for 10+ years, but it also comes from its own world view. Its opinions are not necessarily a matter of incontrovertible record.

sarisataka

(19,076 posts)
9. Second verse same as the first
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 05:28 PM
Oct 2023

Repeat as necessary

I would post some examples from the past. But I'm sure it would be hidden because the material would be too uncomfortable for some.

Response to TomDaisy (Reply #12)

sarisataka

(19,076 posts)
18. I have a busy evening planned.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 05:44 PM
Oct 2023

Could you please point me to which video he says he will use hamas to kill a thousand Israelis? I have no love for Netanyahu and see him as part of the problem. He may have stacked the dynamite but he didn't light the fuse

Ironically, my evening is to go visit my brother, and we are going to be playing a war game. Cardboard soldiers only leave cardboard widows and orphans.

Martin68

(23,138 posts)
11. Elessar Zappa, your refusal to see Netanyahu's part in this suggests you are determined to ignore
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 05:36 PM
Oct 2023

what led to the successful Hamas attack on Israel. Netanyahu made sure two-state negotiations would fail, abrogated international law by encouraging thousands of Israelis to settle on Palestinian land, he played Hamas off against the PLA in a strategy to make both sides weaker. It was a colossal failure except that it has given him an excuse to bomb Gaza back to the Stone Age, kill thousands of Palestinians, starve the rest, and he probably hopes this will put Israel in a position to occupy Gaza and eventually, the West Bank.

Martin68

(23,138 posts)
34. mzmolly, I think Hamas has several objectives. The first is revenge for previous bombings
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 10:56 AM
Oct 2023

and commando raids that killed hundreds of civilians, and the taking of Palestinian land for settlements. Hamas would also like to disrupt the move towards a peace agreement between Israel and Saudi Arabia that does not include any mention of Palestinian statehood. thirdly, I believe Hamas wanted to exploit the unsettled political situation in Israel in which thousands of Israelis, including military personnel, are demonstrating against Netanyahu's attempts to neuter the Supreme Court to protect Netanyahu from criminal charges.

mzmolly

(51,022 posts)
37. The murder of innocent people is not the proper way
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 02:21 PM
Oct 2023

to address concerns over the issues you mention. It’s my understanding that their ultimate goal, is to kill Jews however.

All Hamas has “accomplished” in their quest, is the murder of more innocent Palestinians.

Martin68

(23,138 posts)
38. No, murder is not the proper way to solve any problem. But I understand the anger, frustration, and
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 10:24 PM
Oct 2023

helpless feeling Palestinian have from the fact that israelis steal Palestinian land for Israeli settlements against international law and UN agreements, and no other country will help them prevent that. Israeli commandos and jet bombers kill hundreds of innocent Palestinian civilians whenever Hamas terrorists attack Israelis. Look at the numbers. Israel is committed to kill multiple Palestinians for every Israeli killed. That is also in contravention of international law. Put people in a pressure cooker and there will be an explosion. Netanyahu has supported Hamas against the Palestinian Liberation Authority to weaken both groups, and bears a great deal of responsibility for the current climate. Yes, Hamas has committed atrocities. So has the Israeli military, again and again. The only solution is to negotiate statehood for Palestinians, and Netanyahu has done everything in his power to prevent that. Hamas and Netanyahu's administration both bear the responsibility for these crimes.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
25. I agree with this point of view.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:58 PM
Oct 2023

I was born Jewish in the USA.

Wannabe fascists (such as Bibi) need an enemy to conquer; something from which to protect the homeland.

Martin68

(23,138 posts)
10. This is 100% correct. Meanwhile, Netanyahu is dismantling democracy as he castrates the Supreme
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 05:31 PM
Oct 2023

court to avoid going to jail for his one crimes.

TomDaisy

(2,008 posts)
16. and let's not forget how he backstabbed Obama by addressing Congress without his consent
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 05:40 PM
Oct 2023

campaigning against Obama from the floor of our own House

Martin68

(23,138 posts)
35. I will never forget, nor forgive Netanyahu and the Republican Congress-critters for
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 10:58 AM
Oct 2023

doing an end run around President Obama.

ZonkerHarris

(24,366 posts)
30. sometimes you need to create your "opportunity crisis" yourself. Well played Bibi.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 07:21 PM
Oct 2023

all it took was a lot of innocent Israelis to die to get the war you wanted.

mzmolly

(51,022 posts)
33. The video of Netanyahu
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 07:32 PM
Oct 2023

is as clear as the ones regarding ACORN back in 2009.

I'm not convinced the captions, as it pertains, are any more accurate than the fake words attributed to Juan Vera.

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