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Beachnutt

(8,910 posts)
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:07 PM Oct 2023

Since Gaza strip is 7 miles wide and 25 miles long

would it be more safe for the population to make a run for the beach and camp there ?
The Sea borders the whole strip from one end to the other long ways.

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Since Gaza strip is 7 miles wide and 25 miles long (Original Post) Beachnutt Oct 2023 OP
people on a beach are easy targets nt msongs Oct 2023 #1
Israeli forces are not targeting civilians Beachnutt Oct 2023 #2
they are not not targeting them either TomDaisy Oct 2023 #5
6000 Israeli bombs/rockets. Around 1400 Gazans have died onenote Oct 2023 #13
+1000 And folks need to STOP with the Israel targeting..TARGETING civilians bullshit GuppyGal Oct 2023 #20
Agree SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #25
When Hamas is hiding next to it even under civilians Amishman Oct 2023 #31
Evidence? paleotn Oct 2023 #14
Sure they can, ForgedCrank Oct 2023 #28
Only if you believe israelis are blood thirsty monsters sarisataka Oct 2023 #6
I agree, and I would make signs Beachnutt Oct 2023 #12
hands up enid602 Oct 2023 #21
Some people seem to forget that much of Israel's armed forces is left leaning. NutmegYankee Oct 2023 #15
I'm not saying that Israel couldn't be more careful... BlueCheeseAgain Oct 2023 #16
I guess they can just pee into the ocean TomDaisy Oct 2023 #3
If they ran to the sea and then drowned themselves it would Help Bibi get his "One State".... EarnestPutz Oct 2023 #4
echoes of history TomDaisy Oct 2023 #7
Why would they want to go in the water and drown themselves Beachnutt Oct 2023 #9
I apologize for my sarcasm. I was taking a shot at Bibi who has said that he opposes a two-state.... EarnestPutz Oct 2023 #19
You mean a million sitting ducks? Ocelot II Oct 2023 #8
Who's shooting at them ? Beachnutt Oct 2023 #10
Wouldn't you expect Hamas to infiltrate them? That's what they do. Ocelot II Oct 2023 #11
But hamas cannot hide weaponry on an open beach Beachnutt Oct 2023 #18
Hamas enid602 Oct 2023 #23
I thought it was impossible to get out of Gaza sarisataka Oct 2023 #24
retooling enid602 Oct 2023 #27
Turns out, some folks "freedom fighters" aren't so nice after all. paleotn Oct 2023 #33
They have been bombing whole city blocks for days. The_Casual_Observer Oct 2023 #17
bombs enid602 Oct 2023 #29
The civilians have no where to go. They can't actually leave. They're going to be killed. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #22
typical beach nut solution maxsolomon Oct 2023 #26
If you were there with your family Beachnutt Oct 2023 #30
I'm trying to make a joke about your name, which is Beachnutt. Beach Nut. maxsolomon Oct 2023 #32
I gotta lighten up... Beachnutt Oct 2023 #34
Parts of the Gaza strip are only 3.4 miles wide. Exactly how large do you niyad Oct 2023 #35

Beachnutt

(8,910 posts)
2. Israeli forces are not targeting civilians
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:10 PM
Oct 2023

and the hamas fighters can't hide weaponry on an open beach.

onenote

(46,142 posts)
13. 6000 Israeli bombs/rockets. Around 1400 Gazans have died
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:18 PM
Oct 2023

Israel has bombed Gazan targets with 6000+ rockets/bombs. The result is the death of 1400+ Gazans.

That number of fatalities includes Gazan civilians, but it also probably includes Hamas terrorists that were killed in Israel before they could flee back to Gaza as well as some number of Hamas terrorists within Gaza.

6000 rockets/bombs -- fewer than 1400 civilians killed. If Israel is targeting civilians, they're doing a rather poor job of it. Or maybe, just maybe, they aren't targeting civilians but thanks to Hamas using civilians effectively as human shields, civilians are getting killed.

GuppyGal

(1,748 posts)
20. +1000 And folks need to STOP with the Israel targeting..TARGETING civilians bullshit
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:27 PM
Oct 2023
It's starting to really piss me the fuck off

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,710 posts)
25. Agree
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:39 PM
Oct 2023

Of course, some people tend to make words mean what they want to rather than what the words really mean. To too many people, it’s seems that any civilian death from a bomb in Gaza means that the Israelis targeted those civilians.

Amishman

(5,929 posts)
31. When Hamas is hiding next to it even under civilians
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:52 PM
Oct 2023

Israel has to choose to either not hit Hamas or accept the risk to civilians.

After the recent atrocities by Hamas, it should surprise no one that Israel is choosing the latter.

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
14. Evidence?
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:18 PM
Oct 2023

Hamas blends in with civies, using them as human shields. That's the group many on the left have supported all these years.

ForgedCrank

(3,096 posts)
28. Sure they can,
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:47 PM
Oct 2023

they can just do what they always do. Put a rocket pod in the center of a daycare or elementary school.
Then we can blame Israel for killing civilians again when a bomb hits it.
Sorry for the sarcasm, I'm just a bit flabbergasted at the reaction coming from some folks right now.

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
6. Only if you believe israelis are blood thirsty monsters
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:11 PM
Oct 2023

And their goal is genocide.

If not, it actually is not a bad idea.

NutmegYankee

(16,478 posts)
15. Some people seem to forget that much of Israel's armed forces is left leaning.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:19 PM
Oct 2023

They don't want to kill women and children, but they do need to stop the resources of a de facto nation of 2.3 million being used to wage merciless indiscriminate war on them.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,983 posts)
16. I'm not saying that Israel couldn't be more careful...
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:20 PM
Oct 2023

... but people tossing around the word "genocide" are exaggerating, I think.

As is frequently pointed out, Gaza is not big, and is very densely populated. Israel has dropped 6000 bombs, and according to Hamas, killed about 1500 people. You'd think if they were trying to kill civilians, they would have killed many more than that by now.

Again, this is not to minimize any civilian deaths, or to say that the IDF shouldn't be more careful. War is terrible, and this whole situation is terrible.

 

EarnestPutz

(2,843 posts)
4. If they ran to the sea and then drowned themselves it would Help Bibi get his "One State"....
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:11 PM
Oct 2023

....solution that he seems to want.

 

EarnestPutz

(2,843 posts)
19. I apologize for my sarcasm. I was taking a shot at Bibi who has said that he opposes a two-state....
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:24 PM
Oct 2023

.....solution. But let me continue in that vein (sarcasm) by suggesting that the Governor of Florida has just now put into place emergency provisions for Israeli refugees to come to Florida. An evacuation of Palestinian refugees from the water off Palestine, sort of like the Cuban flotilla of "boat people", would mean that no one would have to drown. This would also give DeSantis some cred on the international/foreign affairs stage. No?

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4252938-desantis-issues-order-rescue-operations-floridians-israel/

Beachnutt

(8,910 posts)
10. Who's shooting at them ?
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:15 PM
Oct 2023

Forces are hunting for terrorist not women and children.
I would think that sitting in a building would be a sitting duck.

Ocelot II

(130,537 posts)
11. Wouldn't you expect Hamas to infiltrate them? That's what they do.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:17 PM
Oct 2023

A whole bunch of convenient human shields.

Beachnutt

(8,910 posts)
18. But hamas cannot hide weaponry on an open beach
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:24 PM
Oct 2023

so if they are mixed into families they cannot fight and Israeli military can hem them in until they screen all the men for evidence of terrorist ties.
Meanwhile they can blast the hell out of suspected buildings containing terrorist and munitions.
In other words civilians mainly women and children get the hell out of the way and stay safe.

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
24. I thought it was impossible to get out of Gaza
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:33 PM
Oct 2023

I read that somewhere recently.

But if Hamas is gone, who is firing the rockets into Israel everyday?

enid602

(9,686 posts)
27. retooling
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:46 PM
Oct 2023

The 'retooling' of Hamas that has taken place over the past two years would suggest that the border was not as closed as one might think. I personally would not be surprised if this retooling was accomplished by Wagner Group.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
17. They have been bombing whole city blocks for days.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:23 PM
Oct 2023

You figure it's just Hamas fighters in those places.

enid602

(9,686 posts)
29. bombs
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:48 PM
Oct 2023

IDF dropped more bombs in Gaza during a six day period than the US dropped in Afghanistan (a large country) during any particular year in the war.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
22. The civilians have no where to go. They can't actually leave. They're going to be killed.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:27 PM
Oct 2023

No one cares.

Beachnutt

(8,910 posts)
30. If you were there with your family
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:50 PM
Oct 2023

knowing what is about to begin there where would you go ?
would you just hunker down in an apartment building a church or gymnasium ?
I personally would take the necessary action to be certain that my loved ones were out of harms way.
Camping on an open beach is an alternative to a building collapsing on you and your loved ones.

maxsolomon

(38,729 posts)
32. I'm trying to make a joke about your name, which is Beachnutt. Beach Nut.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 06:55 PM
Oct 2023

your advice is to go to the beach, and you're nutty about beaches, so it figures you'd say the beach is the answer - that's the joke. I don't think my joke worked, but I thought it was funny.

It's not a terrible idea, and I'm sure some are doing just that. Also camping in the open fields along the border.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
35. Parts of the Gaza strip are only 3.4 miles wide. Exactly how large do you
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 07:53 PM
Oct 2023

think the beach is? And how separate from all that is currently happening?

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