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Donkees

(33,733 posts)
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 10:11 PM Oct 2023

US announces deployment of fighter jets to the Middle East

From CNN's Brad Lendon

US Air Forces Central on Saturday announced the deployment of F-15E fighter jets and A-10 ground-attack jets to the Middle East region.

The movement of the warplanes from the 494th Expeditionary Fighter Squadron and 354th Expeditionary Fighter Squadron, respectively, “bolster the US posture and enhance air operations throughout the Middle East,” an Air Force statement said. It did not specify the number of warplanes involved.

A US Central Command social media post said the A-10s will join another squadron of the aircraft already in the region.

“By posturing advanced fighters and integrating with joint and coalition forces, we are strengthening our partnerships and reinforcing security in the region,” Lt. Gen. Alexus Grynkewich, 9th Air Force commander, said in a statement.

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-news-hamas-war-10-14-23/index.html


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US announces deployment of fighter jets to the Middle East (Original Post) Donkees Oct 2023 OP
Nothing to Ukraine though after a year and a half of war. brush Oct 2023 #1
The perils of the US (or NATO) Disaffected Oct 2023 #2
Apparently you don't know that pilots are being trained, and have been for weeks now... brush Oct 2023 #3
And apparently you don't know that those pilots are not American. Disaffected Oct 2023 #19
Who said they were? brush Oct 2023 #21
"You're missing the point completely." Disaffected Oct 2023 #28
Now you're resorting to repeating my lines. brush Oct 2023 #29
Well, if the shoe fits..... Disaffected Oct 2023 #30
I guess...if that's all you've got. brush Oct 2023 #31
But..Israel is not in NATO either, are they? Deuxcents Oct 2023 #4
Well, Israel is not in the North Atlantic region, for starters. Aristus Oct 2023 #27
What seems out of balance? Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #5
It took a year and a half to finally sign off on training F-i6 pilots... brush Oct 2023 #6
Nobody is training the Israelis to fly these American jets. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #7
You're missing the point completely. brush Oct 2023 #9
Apparently. That's why I am asking for an explanation. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #10
A year and a half for jets to Ukraine and just a week plus to... brush Oct 2023 #11
It is NOT to Israel. It is to American bases in the Middle east. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #12
Still mising the point. The jets to the Middle East are carrier-based. brush Oct 2023 #13
It's not complicated at all once you understand that American jets on American carriers, Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #15
Are you dense? The US supports Israel (noting wrong with that). brush Oct 2023 #17
Yes I am dense. It takes a genius to figure out how the jets that are not intended Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #24
The President really isn't messing around ripcord Oct 2023 #8
I did not see F35s listed Chuuku Davis Oct 2023 #14
''F-35 Lightning II stealth fighters are among the further capabilities that could be sent.'' Donkees Oct 2023 #25
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2023 #16
You do understand what buddhi mudra means, right? William769 Oct 2023 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2023 #20
... KS Toronado Oct 2023 #22
I have a question about the A-10s Dirty Socialist Oct 2023 #23
US Air Force. Multi-role fighters F-15E Strike Eagles ... Donkees Oct 2023 #26
 

brush

(61,033 posts)
1. Nothing to Ukraine though after a year and a half of war.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 10:22 PM
Oct 2023

Took just a week to deploy fighter jets to the Middle East. Something seems way out of balance.

Disaffected

(6,475 posts)
2. The perils of the US (or NATO)
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 10:24 PM
Oct 2023

getting directly involved in the Ukraine war are well known and understood.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
3. Apparently you don't know that pilots are being trained, and have been for weeks now...
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 10:35 PM
Oct 2023

on F-i6s to Ukraine? The US has signed off on it finally.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
5. What seems out of balance?
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 11:00 PM
Oct 2023

US deploying jets to... not Israel in the Middle East?

How is it different from US deploying jets to not Ukraine in Europe?

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
6. It took a year and a half to finally sign off on training F-i6 pilots...
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 11:43 PM
Oct 2023

for jets to Ukraine (Poland and other nations are supplying them), but it took only a week for jets to be deployed for possible action in the Middle East.

And Zelenskyy is Jewish. It just seems out of balance to me as making sure Ukraine wins is just as important as what the outcome is in the Middle East.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
7. Nobody is training the Israelis to fly these American jets.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 11:52 PM
Oct 2023

The jets are destined for American bases in the middle East, just like jets sent to Europe immediately after Russian invasion were meant for American bases in Poland, Slovakia and Germany, for the possible action in Europe.

Oh, and Netanyahu is Jewish too. So what exactly seems out of balance?

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
10. Apparently. That's why I am asking for an explanation.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 11:59 PM
Oct 2023

What exactly is out of balance considering the similarities of action in both cases?

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
11. A year and a half for jets to Ukraine and just a week plus to...
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 12:02 AM
Oct 2023

to the Middle Easst are in no way similar.

The Ukraine war could've been over months ago if Ukraine had had air cover to combat Russia's.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
12. It is NOT to Israel. It is to American bases in the Middle east.
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 12:11 AM
Oct 2023

America doesn't even have any bases in Israel. So why keep insisting that the jets are destined for Israel?

I am still not getting the purpose of repeating a false presumption again and again.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
13. Still mising the point. The jets to the Middle East are carrier-based.
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 12:21 AM
Oct 2023

It's not really that complicated.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
15. It's not complicated at all once you understand that American jets on American carriers,
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 12:43 AM
Oct 2023

just like American jets on American bases are not given to Israel in any way, shape or form.

Nothing to Israel, is that a difficult thing to understand? Just as American jets in Poland was nothing to Ukraine.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
17. Are you dense? The US supports Israel (noting wrong with that).
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 12:48 AM
Oct 2023

You're again missing my point completely. I favor rooting out Hamas from Gaza, as well as helping Ukraine win against Russia asap.

You seem to keep hinting that I'm advocating against Israel. Israel should of course retaliate against the Hamas terrorists. I also hope that measures should be taken so civilian losses on both sides be as few as possible in this humongously tragic and complicated humanitarian crisis.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
24. Yes I am dense. It takes a genius to figure out how the jets that are not intended
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 07:04 AM
Oct 2023

to go to Israel are going to end up going to Israel, while jets not intended to go to Ukraine will not.

I am just not up to the task.

Bye.

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
8. The President really isn't messing around
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 11:54 PM
Oct 2023

He meant it when he told the middle east to stay out of the conflict.

Chuuku Davis

(608 posts)
14. I did not see F35s listed
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 12:27 AM
Oct 2023

These things will kick ass and Israel and the two carriers have them

Donkees

(33,733 posts)
25. ''F-35 Lightning II stealth fighters are among the further capabilities that could be sent.''
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 07:15 AM
Oct 2023
U.S. officials have said that U.S. Air Force F-35 Lightning II stealth fighters are among the further capabilities that could be sent.

https://www.airandspaceforces.com/f-15s-middle-east-usaf-hamas-israel-war/


Editor’s Note: This article was updated on Oct. 9 following the U.S. response to attacks on Israel.

U.S. Air Force F-35 Lightning II stealth fighters that deployed to the Middle East to deter Iranian aggression in the Persian Gulf and push back against Russian bullying in the skies over Syria have left the region, according to service officials.

“What the F-35s did is they gave us additional capacity,” Air Forces Central (AFCENT) commander Lt. Gen. Alexus G. Grynkewich told reporters Oct. 4 at a Defense Writers Group event.

The deployment wrapped up in late September, according to the 388th Fighter Wing at Hill Air Force Base, Utah. All the aircraft have left the Middle East and are “in transit home,” according to a spokesperson for the 388th Fighter Wing.

Operating as the 421st Air Expeditionary Squadron, the F-35s first deployed July 26, when the fifth-generation fighters were rushed to the region by the Pentagon after Iranian attacks on commercial shipping around the Strait of Hormuz, the strategic chokepoint between the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman through which 20 percent of the world’s oil flows.

Additional U.S. Navy vessels, led by the Bataan Amphibious Ready Group with thousands of Marines, followed the F-35s. The USS Bataan amphibious assault ship brought more airpower into the region with a squadron of vertical or short takeoff and landing (V/STOL) Harriers.

The U.S. still has F-16s and A-10s in the region. However, the stealthy F-35 provided more advanced capabilities.

https://www.airandspaceforces.com/f-35s-leave-middle-east-deployment-iran-russia/


Response to Donkees (Original post)

William769

(59,147 posts)
18. You do understand what buddhi mudra means, right?
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 12:55 AM
Oct 2023

Just isn't your personification.

I'm sure we'll see more though.

Response to William769 (Reply #18)

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
23. I have a question about the A-10s
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 02:37 AM
Oct 2023

Do the kids in the region get to play with the spent depleted uranium shells?

Donkees

(33,733 posts)
26. US Air Force. Multi-role fighters F-15E Strike Eagles ...
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 07:29 AM
Oct 2023


Oct 14, 2023

US Air Force. Multi-role fighters F-15E Strike Eagles arrive in the US Central Command area of responsibility to strengthen the US position and strengthen air operations in the Middle East.

00:00 RAF Lakenheath, England
02:10 U.S. Air Force in the Middle East
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