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TNNurse

(7,481 posts)
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 01:18 PM Oct 2023

So today, I emailed my Congressman (an idiot by the way)

wrote a letter to the editor of the local paper and posted on Facebook. I will email my equally idiotic Senators later today.

We live in Blount County, TN. We live out in the country. Our mail used to be delivered by carriers who have to provide and maintain their vehicles. Our last mail was delivered Tuesday the 10th. On Wednesday, I put a piece of mail out to be picked up, a bill payment. Later that afternoon I saw a US Mail truck zip by without stopping. Friday, I took that mail out of the box and drove to the post office in Maryville. We have a Maryville address. I spoke to a "supervisor". I was told that half of their carriers were out for various reasons. When I mentioned the mail truck he informed me that those are for Amazon deliveries (which I knew) and that "Amazon has priority, it is in the contract". We have had no mail delivery since and I checked with neighbors who agreed. I was shown at the PO, really large Amazon boxes that were needing to be delivered. One of them would have filled that mail truck. He also said that their sorting equipment measured up to 40# and some of them Amazon boxes were heavier than that. He also said he could not find subs....well at 20$/ hr and having to maintain a vehicle that is adapted, that is just not realistic for part time work.

The Post Office is in the US Constitution. Amazon is not. I know that many assholes in the GOP have been trying to destroy the postal service so they can make if profitable for them and their pals for years. The cost of mailing a letter has gone up many many times recently, but it still cheaper than a letter via UPS or FedEx.

I am furious. I can decide to pay bills online or by direct withdrawal but MANY PEOPLE CANNOT DO THAT. We can rent a PO box and drive to town 15 miles every day and back home 15 miles just to get our mail.

Why have we not been able to remove Dejoy and get some sanity back in the USPS????

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So today, I emailed my Congressman (an idiot by the way) (Original Post) TNNurse Oct 2023 OP
When my mail wasn't picked up for three days once, I complained at the main post office. tblue37 Oct 2023 #1
I would like to know who decided that they were not "required" to stop to pick up mail. TNNurse Oct 2023 #2
Wow. I remember having to put the flag up on our mailbox to let the USPO to stop to pick up mail Freethinker65 Oct 2023 #8
Oh, that flag was up from Wednesday until Friday, TNNurse Oct 2023 #9
We have had the same problem. I live in the country also (Texas) walkingman Oct 2023 #3
Amazon being a priority. Gee, I wonder why? Boomerproud Oct 2023 #4
We never have a problem getting our mail picked up. We Emile Oct 2023 #5
I can handle it being a different time. TNNurse Oct 2023 #10
That's crazy! Emile Oct 2023 #13
My Congressperson blocked me. czarjak Oct 2023 #6
JoJo? Duppers Oct 2023 #14
Jodey Arrington. The Pride Of The Plains. Ask him. czarjak Oct 2023 #15
Thank you. Duppers Oct 2023 #19
Worked in W's fiasco. Unfazed by facts. czarjak Oct 2023 #21
Talk about irony! ShazzieB Oct 2023 #27
Proud Boy. For sure. I think he at least knew something about1/6. czarjak Oct 2023 #31
This is why we have a PO box. The rural delivery person is pretty reliable, but . . . Vinca Oct 2023 #7
I live in the city of Pittsburgh and my mailman is here pretty much every day (not Sunday) FakeNoose Oct 2023 #11
I'm with you. This is the "privatizing" brought in by Reagan, so it's been in the works for decades Hekate Oct 2023 #12
The Roots and Reasons of Privatization Celerity Oct 2023 #33
My neighbors in FR also complain... Duppers Oct 2023 #16
Drumpf's installed operative and rich republican asshole Louis DeJoy is STILL the Postmaster General JoseBalow Oct 2023 #17
I love the Postal Service and we are lucky to have it, BUT... Trueblue Texan Oct 2023 #18
I won't email my idiot again. UTUSN Oct 2023 #20
If Republicans are able to gain control again, the USPS will be privatized in a heartbeat for Lonestarblue Oct 2023 #22
Good luck with your dopey Sen Blackburn BaronChocula Oct 2023 #23
Oh, I expect nothing from her or her lap dog Hagerty. TNNurse Oct 2023 #28
I know you know Marsha Marsha Marsha BaronChocula Oct 2023 #34
I live in Sevierville... IrishAfricanAmerican Oct 2023 #24
Thank St. Ronnie for that one. Iggo Oct 2023 #25
How long is it going to take before it dawns on you capitalism is not the answer Stargazer99 Oct 2023 #26
Who is the "you" that you are addressing here? ShazzieB Oct 2023 #29
So I have contacted my elected federal officials. TNNurse Oct 2023 #30
Remove DeJoy... Duppers Oct 2023 #32

tblue37

(68,118 posts)
1. When my mail wasn't picked up for three days once, I complained at the main post office.
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 01:35 PM
Oct 2023

They told me that if there was no mail to deliver at an address, the carrier was not required to stop there to pick up mail.

Since they put so much time pressure on carriers, that means the carriers will
always save time where they can, so if they don't have to stop at an address, they definitely won't.

TNNurse

(7,481 posts)
2. I would like to know who decided that they were not "required" to stop to pick up mail.
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 01:43 PM
Oct 2023

Pretty sure that did not used to be the policy.

Freethinker65

(11,202 posts)
8. Wow. I remember having to put the flag up on our mailbox to let the USPO to stop to pick up mail
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 02:40 PM
Oct 2023

Is that no longer valid?

TNNurse

(7,481 posts)
9. Oh, that flag was up from Wednesday until Friday,
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 02:42 PM
Oct 2023

but since the regular carrier did not come by, it was meaningless. The truck carrying packages did not stop.

walkingman

(10,262 posts)
3. We have had the same problem. I live in the country also (Texas)
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 01:46 PM
Oct 2023

We have had the same postman for over 25 years who is a local and knows everyone. Always dependable and good service. He is a "contract" mail carrier, not a Post Office employee. First they cut our PO hours down to 8-12 weekdays and 7:30-9:30 Sat. and about 6-8 months ago did not renew the carriers contract. So they transfer in a PO employee from out of state who has absolutely no idea about our area at all. Lots of paved and gravel roads that cover a large area. Not only that they did not give the former carrier the opportunity to "train" (show the route) to the new carrier. It was a total mess for about 3-4 months. People not getting their mail - mail delivered to the wrong mailbox, etc. But finally, thanks to a lot of work by the new carrier things have finally smoothed out. We contacted our Rep and even Sen. who basically did nothing except to "look into it.

A damn mess.

It is shameful what has happened since Dejoy took over but no one seems to give a shit.

Emile

(40,323 posts)
5. We never have a problem getting our mail picked up. We
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 02:04 PM
Oct 2023

always leave a little Christmas present for our mail carrier. The subs are a different story. You never know when they will deliver the mail. It's a long way out to the mail box too. One sub is too lazy to lower the flag after picking up and delivering the mail. So you automatically think he's never been here and he has. I jumped the sub ass about it, but still does it from time to time.

TNNurse

(7,481 posts)
10. I can handle it being a different time.
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 02:43 PM
Oct 2023

This is has been 4 days with no delivery or pickup at all.

ShazzieB

(22,153 posts)
27. Talk about irony!
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 04:28 PM
Oct 2023

I never heard of him, so I googled, just for the heck of it. Hs website is a trip, especially this, which is

WELCOME

Congressman Jodey Arrington is the proud United States Representative for constituents of Texas' 19th Congressional District. Please don’t hesitate to contact our office with any questions or concerns on how we can best serve you.

I guess they need to add something to that last sentence, like "Please don’t hesitate to contact our office with any questions or concerns on how we can best serve you unless I get tired of hearing from you and decide to block you.

What a jerk. He should change his last name to Arrogant. It would suit him a lot better.

czarjak

(13,424 posts)
31. Proud Boy. For sure. I think he at least knew something about1/6.
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 08:04 PM
Oct 2023

That Bush Experience provided connections. Basically groomed for his position. Replaced Randy Neugebauer. Worth a Google search too. His son Toby miraculously became a billionaire hedge-funder. Funny how that works. Good-Old-Boy Texas Network. Since forever.

FakeNoose

(40,005 posts)
11. I live in the city of Pittsburgh and my mailman is here pretty much every day (not Sunday)
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 02:47 PM
Oct 2023

Since the UPS, Fedex and Amazon trucks go down my street regularly there's no need for the mailman to deliver Amazon packages.

But here's what I wanted to mention: it's about the USPS barcode label that's stuck on my mailbox. Every day the mailman came to my door and scanned the barcode label on the mailbox to prove that he was there. Even when there's no letters to pick up or deliver, he still scanned that barcode.

But this past summer I noticed that he wasn't doing that any more. He skips my house when there's nothing to deliver, and therefore my letters don't get picked up. (It's not a problem for me because I rarely mail anything.) I asked my mailman, don't you have to scan the barcode? and he answered, "Oh we don't do that anymore. That program is over."

So now I watch for his truck parked down the street, and I go out and hand him my letters. Otherwise they might sit in my mailbox for days. The only reason I can do this is that I'm retired and home during the day. If I were still working, I'd never know why the mail wasn't picked up.




Hekate

(100,131 posts)
12. I'm with you. This is the "privatizing" brought in by Reagan, so it's been in the works for decades
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 02:49 PM
Oct 2023

Say the government does not work — take charge — defund and refuse to maintain — commit outright vandalism. Voila! Self-fulfilling prophecy.

Best of luck. Make as big a stink as you can.

Celerity

(53,552 posts)
33. The Roots and Reasons of Privatization
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 02:04 AM
Oct 2023


https://forgeorganizing.org/article/roots-and-reasons-privatization

This excerpt originally appeared in The Privatization of Everything: How the Plunder of Public Goods Transformed America and How We Can Fight Back published by The New Press. Reprinted here with permission.



A Very Brief History

Understanding privatization means understanding that it is first and foremost a political strategy. It was born this way, and so it remains, but it has also become a grab for billions of dollars in contracts and fees. In the years since it sprang from the mind of Milton Friedman as a way to undercut government “monopoly,” it has also become a way for profiteers to tap into the $7 trillion of public revenue (which swelled to $9 trillion during the COVID crisis) spent by local, state, and federal government agencies each year and carve out a piece (sometimes a very big piece) for themselves. Privatization has also in recent history become remarkably bipartisan—Democratic president Bill Clinton arguably did more for the privatization project than did his Republican predecessor Ronald Reagan. And it has become surprisingly pervasive, to the point where there are now 2.6 times as many federal government contractors as there are government employees, and there is literally no public good that is not at risk of being privatized. But it started very humbly, with ideas from the conservative intelligentsia that became a way to achieve political ends without incurring public disfavor.

School Choice and the “Iron Fist” of the Bureaucrats

In the 1950s, conservative economist Milton Friedman felt increasingly out of step with what he saw as “the general trend in our times toward increasing intervention by the state” and “the trend toward collectivism.” He strongly preferred a government that provided only enforcement and avoided providing any services. Yet he also believed that democratic governments tend to naturally grow larger due to self-interested groups and the self-preservation instincts of politicians and bureaucrats (in Friedman’s imagination, people often seem incapable of acting for the common good). Privatization was an effective, though imperfect, counterweight to these tendencies. In his landmark 1955 essay on school choice, Friedman admitted that few citizens would want to do away with universal public education, and suggested providing parents with “a specified sum to be used solely in paying for [their child’s] general education” and allowing them “to spend this sum at a school of their own choice.” This would satisfy a public desire while preventing the growth of bureaucracy. Sixty-two years later, President Donald Trump chose a secretary of education whose only experience in education was her advocacy for Friedman’s ideas, now packaged in the consumer-friendly term school choice.

Friedman’s vision for market-managed public services was remarkably clear-eyed; he was under no illusion that any profit-generating enterprise would act for the common good. He lambasted the very idea that a business could have social responsibilities, and insisted that executives have responsibilities only to the business owners. To even suggest a responsibility to something larger was to invite “the iron fist of Government bureaucrats.” So Friedman’s voucher-supported private schools, despite taking public money, would have zero responsibility to the public. The implications were clear by the time Friedman’s essay was published. Brown v. Board of Education had already spurred a “school choice” movement in segregated states. Private schools, bereft of social responsibility, offered something their white customers wanted—segregation— and politicians hoped to support this deplorable choice with public money in the form of vouchers. The racial implications of privatization should have been perfectly obvious to a man of Friedman’s intelligence, but they apparently did not enter his thinking until someone pointed them out to him, after his landmark essay was largely complete. The issue of how the free market encourages racial segregation gets no more than an awkward footnote.

Outside of Friedman’s self-generated bubble, school choice was a raw expression of white supremacy. The white parents of Prince Edward County, Virginia, were happy with their public schools until the court forced those schools to accept black children. Vouchers came into play as part of a segregationist strategy that started with the county’s pulling funding for all public schools. Next came a “tuition grant program” that gave parents vouchers up to $150 for private school. White parents rallied together to create a “segregation academy” that could legally bar black students. Prince Edward County ultimately closed its public schools completely and chained their doors. This example inspired racists everywhere; in 1969 over two hundred segregation academies were thriving in the South, and seven states had instituted voucher programs. The Prince Edward County school story offers a clear example of the ways in which privatization helps the powerful and well connected circumvent civil rights and the law. Putting public goods in private hands helps them evade accountability and protections. It prioritizes individual choice, even if that choice is one of racial oppression. While Friedman first devised privatization as a way to avoid the iron fist of government, his vouchers merely forged another fist, one specifically designed to curtail the rights of African Americans and other racial minorities.

The Reagan Revolution and Privatization’s “Golden Opportunity” .................

snip

Duppers

(28,460 posts)
16. My neighbors in FR also complain...
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 03:29 PM
Oct 2023

And have to rent P.O. boxes at that little gas station/post office in Walland.

Blount county postal service sucks.

JoseBalow

(9,090 posts)
17. Drumpf's installed operative and rich republican asshole Louis DeJoy is STILL the Postmaster General
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 03:29 PM
Oct 2023

He wasn't kidding when he said that he'd be around "a long time, get used to me."

Trueblue Texan

(4,162 posts)
18. I love the Postal Service and we are lucky to have it, BUT...
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 03:30 PM
Oct 2023

...they really don't pay as well as folks think. Back in the oughts, I worked for $11.XX/hr, paid for my own gas and maintenance on my personal vehicle as a sub. And gas was around $4.00 a gallon then. I think I actually ended up paying them for letting me work at that rate. It was even worse for the part-time maintenance employees who made $7.25/hr, supplied their own mowers and gas for mowing the yards, plus did all the inside cleaning and worked 6 days a week--no benefits included, of course and never a full-time schedule. Ridiculous.

And Dejoy wasn't around then.

In the years before that when I worked as a window clerk, I first had to have a very high score on the postal exam to get a part-time job in a small town 60 miles from my home AND I had to work a split shift! I worked as a part time flexible (which doesn't mean you work less than 40 hours--usually mean you work at least 6 days a week, though) for almost 4 years stuck with the crummiest shifts there were and never a weekend off before I finally bid on and was awarded a full-time job, which ALSO did not give me weekends off. The people who had jobs with weekends off had usually worked more than a decade before they won a bid that gave them that luxury. It can be a real shit job at times. It's probably a lot worse now.

UTUSN

(76,712 posts)
20. I won't email my idiot again.
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 03:35 PM
Oct 2023

She only got in via redistricting/Gerrymandering, replaced a score or more years of Dems. Once she got in she went radio silent for most of the first year, finally dipping a toe into non-controversial community events (think, veterans' ceremonies). But the first year barely over, I started getting campaign-like, glossy, multi-color junk mail from her. Her local field office telephone not answering, I called her D.C. office. Her phone dude heard out my request to be taken off their mailing list, then said, "You've called here before, haven't you." The answer was a definite no. He didn't commit to taking me off the list.

The junk (postage free for congresscritters) kept coming a couple of more times. By the way, there were no overt campaign voting requests in the mailing, so I guess the free postage qualifies as official business, being pictures of her at community events. So then is when I emailed asking to be taken off the list.

And that's when her emails started, which continue after several months - "newsletters" and invites to her upcoming appearances. I tried Blocking, but only succeeded in getting them marked as Spam. So they keep coming, yes straight to the Spam folder, but they don't stop.






Lonestarblue

(13,197 posts)
22. If Republicans are able to gain control again, the USPS will be privatized in a heartbeat for
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 03:36 PM
Oct 2023

some private equity group to strip it of as many assets as possible, fire thousands of workers, close all rural post offices, and then walk away with their millions and leave the ruins for the government to pay to recreate a postal service demanded by the Constitution.

And, no, I do not understand how DeJoy is still in his job. Most people in the Biden administration surely know how much he is hated. And they should also fear his ability to prevent mail ballots from being delivered on time. Several Republican states have changed their laws to now require that all ballots be received by election day to be counted, instead of the grace period of three or more days. DeJoy is a Trump supporter. He needs to go before he can help screw up the 2024 election.

BaronChocula

(3,967 posts)
23. Good luck with your dopey Sen Blackburn
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 03:42 PM
Oct 2023

When asked if she supports raising the minimum wage her nonsensical stock answer is "I'm for people making a maximum wage" which makes it sound like she's only for the wealthy which is the total truth. She's a weak and cowardly republican shill for the interests with the most power and money.

TNNurse

(7,481 posts)
28. Oh, I expect nothing from her or her lap dog Hagerty.
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 04:31 PM
Oct 2023

I just need to speak my complaints.

Working to get the wonderful Gloria Johnson to take her place.

BaronChocula

(3,967 posts)
34. I know you know Marsha Marsha Marsha
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 02:43 AM
Oct 2023

I wasn't insulting your intelligence. I was just venting myself since I really can't stand her going back to her House days. Fingers crossed for Gloria Johnson!

IrishAfricanAmerican

(4,378 posts)
24. I live in Sevierville...
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 03:46 PM
Oct 2023

Our mail's been jacked up since we relocated here a year ago. Disgusting!


Stargazer99

(3,416 posts)
26. How long is it going to take before it dawns on you capitalism is not the answer
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 04:09 PM
Oct 2023

or are you going to just wait until the capitalist have their hand in your pocket for every need in life? No wonder they laugh all the way to the bank...they own your reps...follow the money...take Amazon's recent grab for the public's mail as a way of reducing their expenses to pay their "owners' more profit while you pay in lack of service's. Sometimes I wonder just how stupid the general public can be
Our Tacoma News Tribune just told subscribers that they will get their newspapers in the mail...putting that expense on the tax payer while they profit..expect more business enitities will try to do this..why should we the taxpayer pay for Amazon's delivery expenses? Talk about welfare for the well off! If you are upset about welfare how about going after the really big taxpayer welfare expense for the businesses or are the poor and the average citizen easier to resent? If you've got a brain, think!!!

ShazzieB

(22,153 posts)
29. Who is the "you" that you are addressing here?
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 04:51 PM
Oct 2023

The way the title of your comment is worded, it's not clear who the "you" is that needs to realize capitalism is not the answer.

If "you" = Republican voters and the politicians they keep voting in, and "capitalism" means unfettered and unregulated capitalism, I heartily agree.

TNNurse

(7,481 posts)
30. So I have contacted my elected federal officials.
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 05:49 PM
Oct 2023

My Congressman, the incredibly stupid Tim Burchett ( or Tim Birdshit as he is known to many), and Senators Marsha Blackburn who is infamously incompetent and Hagerty whose first name I do not know and apparently just does as he is told.

So no, I do not expect meaningful communication or results from any of them.

I did mention it was good that I do not get medications through the mail...I could be dead by now.

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