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With Jim Jordan as speaker... (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Oct 2023 OP
So in other words, he can cause Ukraine to lose the war by blocking aid Alhena Oct 2023 #1
Yes Stinky The Clown Oct 2023 #5
True, but sadly for the country, stuff needs to be done. rsdsharp Oct 2023 #2
And....voila! Back road to the government shut down. LakeArenal Oct 2023 #3
Third in line of succession to POTUS misanthrope Oct 2023 #4
Unserious and Dangerous times. Boomerproud Oct 2023 #7
Careless as fuck is what we are BeyondGeography Oct 2023 #8
If Jordan becomes speaker does he keep his committee chairmanships? Walleye Oct 2023 #6
He's not going to have a change of heart or temperament by becoming Speaker bucolic_frolic Oct 2023 #9
But he'll still wear his little costume misanthrope Oct 2023 #10
He can shut down the government. honest.abe Oct 2023 #11
Think we were better off with McCarthy. Silent Type Oct 2023 #12
There's no indication Jim is better or worse than anyone Johonny Oct 2023 #13
This was inevitable Aepps22 Oct 2023 #14

misanthrope

(9,556 posts)
4. Third in line of succession to POTUS
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 04:02 PM
Oct 2023

Had he been speaker on Jan. 6, 2021, we would be living in the Trump autocracy right now. That alone should be a sobering thought. But we are an unserious country.

BeyondGeography

(41,172 posts)
8. Careless as fuck is what we are
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 04:09 PM
Oct 2023

This country feels like it’s on the ultimate FAFO mission.

bucolic_frolic

(55,523 posts)
9. He's not going to have a change of heart or temperament by becoming Speaker
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 04:09 PM
Oct 2023

He's just going to rant and try to pull the stuff he does in committee as Speaker instead. He can wreak havoc. But he will come across as McCarthy with more anger, louder, and less logical.

misanthrope

(9,556 posts)
10. But he'll still wear his little costume
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 04:12 PM
Oct 2023

with the rolled sleeves and loosened tie, like he's portraying a character in a sitcom.

Johonny

(26,410 posts)
13. There's no indication Jim is better or worse than anyone
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 04:37 PM
Oct 2023

Else currently in the running. They all seem unlikely to hold their party together. Jim is all bark, no bite. He will be louder than Kevin which makes him easier to deal with for democrats. He's unlikely to make backdoor agreements, meaning he's likely to quickly get bogged down in any basic governmental function. There's a lot of doubt he can even ass kiss enough to get the job. He's unlikable, pig headed, loud, and not bright. He has little chance to do much more than scream a lot and put on big displays.

I figure government shutdown will be impossible to avoid with him.

Aepps22

(394 posts)
14. This was inevitable
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 04:38 PM
Oct 2023

Their party wants the government to shutdown. Even if we saved McCarthy the lesson he would take away from his experience would be to double down in November and shut things down. He wouldn't learn the actual lesson that trying to placate the crazies will always get you burned.

Sadly, I think the government will shutdown no matter who the speaker is and that's not great but it might be necessary. Until people realize that there are no both sides in politics they will continue to enable Republicans.

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