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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI was thinking about Trump's "sir stories". Where he tells about conversations with about anyone
and always quotes them as calling him sir. I wonder if anyone could find any other president doing that? I would guess they almost always just related what was said without that part even if they were addressed as sir.
When I tell someone about a conversation, I'll just say, "then he said.......", I don't quote the guy as saying my name first. I bet we'd like to know how some other powerful wealthy people have talked to him in private conversations. I doubt every sentence start with sir or Mr. President! LOL
Blue Owl
(59,596 posts)Yes, China!
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)How likely is it that the defendant is routinely approached by one of the great unwashed?
musclecar6
(1,884 posts)A wildly, insecure, pathetic, jerk off.
4lbs
(7,395 posts)Since Dumpster was too afraid to be in it, I can't recall anyone actually calling Bone Spur Boy by that.
He probably has called Pootie "sir" though, many times.
Joinfortmill
(21,629 posts)brewens
(15,359 posts)Caliman73
(11,767 posts)I might mention meta details in recounting a story if it added to the story.
Trump on the other hand, straight up lies, and uses the "sir" reference to signal that he is the "superior" person in the room. It is almost always when someone is asking him for something, or thanking him.
I often notice that Mary Trump, his niece, rarely refers to him as Uncle. She will describe him as, "my uncle" if identifying who she is talking about but she doesn't say, "Uncle Donald used to take me fishing...." She says, "Donald is very corrupt" . I usually see it as a sign of respect, at least for your elders. I still call my aunts and uncles "aunt/uncle ...." or "tia/tio (Spanish) ....." I never call them by their first name alone, that would be a sign of disrespect.
ggma
(711 posts)"Put a handle on that." They only ever said it once. Sir and ma'am were automatic.
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Caliman73
(11,767 posts)When I was growing up, children were to be "seen and not heard". When you force people to "respect" others, it can lead to bad things happening.
While I do teach my children to be respectful and use a person's title or relationship marker, I also teach them that respect is earned and kept by behavior. If a relative, teacher, etc... was abusive, I would not obligate my child to continue to use any honorific/relational titles.
There was a period of time where I would not speak to some of my uncles, and/or would call them by their first name (myself being an adult at the time). I did not feel, based on their treatment of me, that they deserved the respect of being referred to by "uncle". I have reconciled that time and those behaviors now, and have reverted back to using titles as the relationships are mostly repaired.
I would very likely never call Trump, "sir", Mr. President, etc... I would definitely call President Biden, "sir" or "Mr. President" as I would call President Obama, or call "Secretary Clinton" or "Ma'am"
Mary Trump said that Donald Trump does not deserve our respect or sympathy at this point because he is so destructive. There is no doubt that he suffered in his life. His father was abusive and his mother was not mentally well. He could have used his family's wealth to deal with those traumas, but he didn't and went full steam into becoming a monstrous person who damaged so many lives. He is beyond redemption at this point, at least in my opinion.
brewens
(15,359 posts)I'm not a peasant. I don't do the title thing usually. Only maybe an old veteran I personally knew was in serious shit, do I call sir. To paraphrase Hank Jr. "I don't say sir and I don't say maam, if you ain't into that you can....."! LOL
If your name isn't good enough, I call you, "hey you". I doubt Joe would be personally offended if I said, "Hi Joe, it is really great to meet you!"
Buns_of_Fire
(19,213 posts)I guess that's when he wants to imply that he's an Ultra-Alpha male compared to the mere Alphas.
Hmmmph. Ultra-Alpo is more like it.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)All those "big, strong me with tears in their eyes" are traitortrump making an appeal to his father.
Kid Berwyn
(25,021 posts)
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)onethatcares
(17,009 posts)it's not like he's lied about anything all these years.
can't you just take him at his word??
where's that pile of shit emoji when I need it?