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brewens

(15,359 posts)
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 04:20 PM Oct 2023

I was thinking about Trump's "sir stories". Where he tells about conversations with about anyone

and always quotes them as calling him sir. I wonder if anyone could find any other president doing that? I would guess they almost always just related what was said without that part even if they were addressed as sir.

When I tell someone about a conversation, I'll just say, "then he said.......", I don't quote the guy as saying my name first. I bet we'd like to know how some other powerful wealthy people have talked to him in private conversations. I doubt every sentence start with sir or Mr. President! LOL

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I was thinking about Trump's "sir stories". Where he tells about conversations with about anyone (Original Post) brewens Oct 2023 OP
My latest favorite one is how China calls him "sir" Blue Owl Oct 2023 #1
Also, considering the sheer volume of "sir stories" gratuitous Oct 2023 #2
Just musclecar6 Oct 2023 #3
The only place I expect to hear "sir" said so many times is in the military. 4lbs Oct 2023 #4
He always thought he was the lord of the manor... Joinfortmill Oct 2023 #5
I'm surprised he doesn't have a story with his dad calling him sir. LOL n/t brewens Oct 2023 #6
People tell stories differently. Caliman73 Oct 2023 #7
Elders in my family would say ggma Oct 2023 #8
Different generations have different rules. Caliman73 Oct 2023 #12
I always hated kids calling me Mr. I would say, "Mr. Dillon" is my dad, my name is Scott. brewens Oct 2023 #13
Big, strong men with tears in their eyes, no doubt. Buns_of_Fire Oct 2023 #9
My guess: He was slapped a lot for not saying "sir" to his father. Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2023 #15
The time sir saluted a North Korean general. Kid Berwyn Oct 2023 #10
Yes, SIR! keithbvadu2 Oct 2023 #11
well gee, onethatcares Oct 2023 #14

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Also, considering the sheer volume of "sir stories"
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 04:22 PM
Oct 2023

How likely is it that the defendant is routinely approached by one of the great unwashed?

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
4. The only place I expect to hear "sir" said so many times is in the military.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 04:30 PM
Oct 2023

Since Dumpster was too afraid to be in it, I can't recall anyone actually calling Bone Spur Boy by that.

He probably has called Pootie "sir" though, many times.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
7. People tell stories differently.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 04:40 PM
Oct 2023

I might mention meta details in recounting a story if it added to the story.

Trump on the other hand, straight up lies, and uses the "sir" reference to signal that he is the "superior" person in the room. It is almost always when someone is asking him for something, or thanking him.

I often notice that Mary Trump, his niece, rarely refers to him as Uncle. She will describe him as, "my uncle" if identifying who she is talking about but she doesn't say, "Uncle Donald used to take me fishing...." She says, "Donald is very corrupt" . I usually see it as a sign of respect, at least for your elders. I still call my aunts and uncles "aunt/uncle ...." or "tia/tio (Spanish) ....." I never call them by their first name alone, that would be a sign of disrespect.

ggma

(711 posts)
8. Elders in my family would say
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 04:57 PM
Oct 2023

"Put a handle on that." They only ever said it once. Sir and ma'am were automatic.

gg

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
12. Different generations have different rules.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 05:46 PM
Oct 2023

When I was growing up, children were to be "seen and not heard". When you force people to "respect" others, it can lead to bad things happening.

While I do teach my children to be respectful and use a person's title or relationship marker, I also teach them that respect is earned and kept by behavior. If a relative, teacher, etc... was abusive, I would not obligate my child to continue to use any honorific/relational titles.

There was a period of time where I would not speak to some of my uncles, and/or would call them by their first name (myself being an adult at the time). I did not feel, based on their treatment of me, that they deserved the respect of being referred to by "uncle". I have reconciled that time and those behaviors now, and have reverted back to using titles as the relationships are mostly repaired.

I would very likely never call Trump, "sir", Mr. President, etc... I would definitely call President Biden, "sir" or "Mr. President" as I would call President Obama, or call "Secretary Clinton" or "Ma'am"

Mary Trump said that Donald Trump does not deserve our respect or sympathy at this point because he is so destructive. There is no doubt that he suffered in his life. His father was abusive and his mother was not mentally well. He could have used his family's wealth to deal with those traumas, but he didn't and went full steam into becoming a monstrous person who damaged so many lives. He is beyond redemption at this point, at least in my opinion.

 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
13. I always hated kids calling me Mr. I would say, "Mr. Dillon" is my dad, my name is Scott.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 05:57 PM
Oct 2023

I'm not a peasant. I don't do the title thing usually. Only maybe an old veteran I personally knew was in serious shit, do I call sir. To paraphrase Hank Jr. "I don't say sir and I don't say maam, if you ain't into that you can....."! LOL

If your name isn't good enough, I call you, "hey you". I doubt Joe would be personally offended if I said, "Hi Joe, it is really great to meet you!"

Buns_of_Fire

(19,213 posts)
9. Big, strong men with tears in their eyes, no doubt.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 05:08 PM
Oct 2023

I guess that's when he wants to imply that he's an Ultra-Alpha male compared to the mere Alphas.

Hmmmph. Ultra-Alpo is more like it.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
15. My guess: He was slapped a lot for not saying "sir" to his father.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 06:46 PM
Oct 2023

All those "big, strong me with tears in their eyes" are traitortrump making an appeal to his father.

onethatcares

(17,009 posts)
14. well gee,
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 06:03 PM
Oct 2023

it's not like he's lied about anything all these years.

can't you just take him at his word??

where's that pile of shit emoji when I need it?

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