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sheshe2

(96,097 posts)
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 07:29 PM Oct 2023

I don't like this, I don't like this at all.

Why are they announcing his travel plans to a volatile war zone? I hope he has a huge security detail on the ground and heightened security for VP Harris. These are extremely dangerous times.

Jesus C, Jordan maybe second in line by Wednesday.

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I don't like this, I don't like this at all. (Original Post) sheshe2 Oct 2023 OP
I don't like it at all, either. Sogo Oct 2023 #1
Good to know it is not just me. sheshe2 Oct 2023 #3
Me neither. Captain Zero Oct 2023 #22
I don't like it, but I'm going to assume that there was a purpose to announcing it. lapucelle Oct 2023 #2
I know there was...still makes me nervous. sheshe2 Oct 2023 #7
Maybe it's a time-buying tactic so more Gazans can move south and more supplies can get in. lapucelle Oct 2023 #14
I'm sure they know what thy are doing. I bet he lands a day early. applegrove Oct 2023 #4
That is what I am thinking say Wednesday but go on Tuesday. sheshe2 Oct 2023 #8
Or go Wednesday and prove you have nerves of steel. applegrove Oct 2023 #10
I'm feeling sketchy about the whole situation. CanonRay Oct 2023 #5
Iran, russia know our capabilities including fighting wars on 2 fronts if needed. Has been our PortTack Oct 2023 #29
Their knowledge maybe augmented... Dave says Oct 2023 #51
Did I hear that there is a THIRD strike group coming up the Red Sea? JoseBalow Oct 2023 #68
Don't go, Joe Blue Owl Oct 2023 #6
I don't bdamomma Oct 2023 #9
You think the threat/concern to Biden is Netanyahu? JoseBalow Oct 2023 #66
I don't like that his visit, at BiBi's request, RockCreek Oct 2023 #71
I don't like it either. anciano Oct 2023 #11
I agree. nt sheshe2 Oct 2023 #12
My guess is that Biden will be home by Wednesday. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #13
This sheshe2 Oct 2023 #17
Sounds like the best plan. rubbersole Oct 2023 #28
He should do what he thinks is right and safe. Maru Kitteh Oct 2023 #15
I trust him, too. ShazzieB Oct 2023 #52
You are not alone. We just have to have faith in our Joe Biden. Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2023 #16
If something happened, VP Harris is there, and the VP spot would be filled soon after. JohnSJ Oct 2023 #18
Wishful thinking. VP nomination would get tied up in Senate Captain Zero Oct 2023 #24
Harris too? OMG!!! wnylib Oct 2023 #25
LOL. They didn't mean she was going too. Liberal In Texas Oct 2023 #32
Whew! I thought that someone posted that Harris was going with Biden. wnylib Oct 2023 #34
Maybe they will hold meetings on one of the aircraft carriers.... Sogo Oct 2023 #19
Exactly Rebl2 Oct 2023 #20
I'm very nervous about this trip. I can't think of any before when it was announced brer cat Oct 2023 #21
Joe Biden is the President of the United States of America and we know what we're doing. GuppyGal Oct 2023 #23
+1 ancianita Oct 2023 #37
+100! ShazzieB Oct 2023 #54
Stupid move. PlutosHeart Oct 2023 #26
I understand why he is going. sheshe2 Oct 2023 #27
That might have helped. PlutosHeart Oct 2023 #73
The President knows what he has to do ripcord Oct 2023 #30
Take a deep breath and calm down. The adults are in charge here. Martin68 Oct 2023 #31
In this day and age and tech.. chouchou Oct 2023 #33
Thk our Commander-in-Chief would go to Israel if his military weren't all hands on deck behind him? ancianita Oct 2023 #35
Don't go Joe duckworth969 Oct 2023 #36
No, now is the time before any invasion into Gaza. We have a real leader. If he is going it is JohnSJ Oct 2023 #39
2 carrier groups and 2k more incoming marines amongst our forces normally in the area Cheezoholic Oct 2023 #38
I.Trust.The.President. speak easy Oct 2023 #40
Israel yes; Netanyahu no. Israel's security is a proven failure; & I don't trust the Secret Service. NBachers Oct 2023 #41
I understand why he is going. sheshe2 Oct 2023 #43
I think it's noble, however Puppyjive Oct 2023 #42
I hope that security is extremely tight for him and that it's a brief visit. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2023 #44
Oh, I am sure they will find a way to criticize him. sheshe2 Oct 2023 #46
hopefully he will not travel on Air Force One yellowdogintexas Oct 2023 #45
This. Thank you. sheshe2 Oct 2023 #47
President Biden knows exactly what he's doing. All this MerryBlooms Oct 2023 #48
I could not agree more! ShazzieB Oct 2023 #56
He has so much experience, he's got this! MerryBlooms Oct 2023 #58
Bite your tounge William769 Oct 2023 #49
You always worry about the ones you care about. sheshe2 Oct 2023 #53
And I think about you every day. William769 Oct 2023 #55
Awww. sheshe2 Oct 2023 #57
Recommended. H2O Man Oct 2023 #50
POTUS Biden going to the ME now is worrisome PufPuf23 Oct 2023 #59
Agree. moondust Oct 2023 #60
He'll be just fine. And good for Biden for publicly and physically standing in solidarity with the Voltaire2 Oct 2023 #61
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2023 #62
It is different than going to Kiev on a train. kentuck Oct 2023 #63
Biden traveled to an active war zone in Ukraine MistakenLamb Oct 2023 #64
I'm betting that every CAMERA they have is on full ZOOM! bluestarone Oct 2023 #65
Jordan as second to be President! burrowowl Oct 2023 #67
Meetings should take place orangecrush Oct 2023 #69
Exactly! llashram Oct 2023 #70
Hi! sheshe2 Oct 2023 #72

lapucelle

(20,950 posts)
2. I don't like it, but I'm going to assume that there was a purpose to announcing it.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 07:35 PM
Oct 2023

I'm not an expert, but they are.

sheshe2

(96,097 posts)
7. I know there was...still makes me nervous.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 07:44 PM
Oct 2023

Sad to say we have many enemies HERE and ABROAD.

lapucelle

(20,950 posts)
14. Maybe it's a time-buying tactic so more Gazans can move south and more supplies can get in.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 07:58 PM
Oct 2023

applegrove

(130,502 posts)
4. I'm sure they know what thy are doing. I bet he lands a day early.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 07:39 PM
Oct 2023

I had the same fear too but talked myself out of it.

CanonRay

(15,975 posts)
5. I'm feeling sketchy about the whole situation.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 07:42 PM
Oct 2023

TWO carrier groups? Plus 2k troops mobilized? I'm afraid we have some Intel that Iran is going to get involved. Are our carrier groups safe? Look what Ukraine has done to the Black Sea Fleet with no navy and just drones. My belief is that Moscow wants us dragged into a war so we can no longer support Ukraine at the necessary levels. Talk me down.

PortTack

(35,816 posts)
29. Iran, russia know our capabilities including fighting wars on 2 fronts if needed. Has been our
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 08:35 PM
Oct 2023

Policy since shortly after WWII.

JoseBalow

(9,196 posts)
68. Did I hear that there is a THIRD strike group coming up the Red Sea?
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 01:49 PM
Oct 2023

And did I hear that Iran was mere WEEKS away from being able to achieve nuclear weapons level materials? Seems like a good time to "push back that timeline", or more.

I agree with you regarding Putin's analysis of the situation vis-a-vis Ukraine... That's how I'd play it on Risk board.

Blue Owl

(58,227 posts)
6. Don't go, Joe
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 07:43 PM
Oct 2023

We all know Joe’s intentions are good, but it’s too risky right now…..

bdamomma

(69,176 posts)
9. I don't
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 07:46 PM
Oct 2023

like it either. I don't trust Netanyahu. His own people wanted him out due his fraud indictments and trying to change laws that the Israeli Supreme Court adheres too. So when these guys get caught doing something illegal, they want to neuter the law so they can stay in power.

JoseBalow

(9,196 posts)
66. You think the threat/concern to Biden is Netanyahu?
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 01:39 PM
Oct 2023

Sorry, I'm not following the logic here

RockCreek

(1,382 posts)
71. I don't like that his visit, at BiBi's request,
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 03:19 PM
Oct 2023

don't like that his visit, at BiBi's request, could be interpreted as giving that criminal (Bibi) status and respect.

anciano

(2,198 posts)
11. I don't like it either.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 07:51 PM
Oct 2023

It would seem to me to better to keep such visits confidential until after they have occurred...

Maru Kitteh

(31,290 posts)
15. He should do what he thinks is right and safe.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 08:01 PM
Oct 2023

I trust President Biden. It's scary, but I trust him. Imagine how Jill is feeling.



ShazzieB

(22,240 posts)
52. I trust him, too.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 10:23 PM
Oct 2023

Yes, this is scary, but I absolutely believe he knows exactly what he's doing.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
18. If something happened, VP Harris is there, and the VP spot would be filled soon after.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 08:03 PM
Oct 2023

Hopefully nothing bad will occur, but it is important not to bow to threats, and it may involve diplomacy with those in the West Bank

Captain Zero

(8,756 posts)
24. Wishful thinking. VP nomination would get tied up in Senate
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 08:19 PM
Oct 2023

Hell they won't allow us to appoint SC members. Why would they allow Harris a VP pick. Sinems and Manchin would join them. Quislings.

Liberal In Texas

(16,011 posts)
32. LOL. They didn't mean she was going too.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 08:54 PM
Oct 2023

They're not going to send the veep to something like this.

Sogo

(6,994 posts)
19. Maybe they will hold meetings on one of the aircraft carriers....
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 08:04 PM
Oct 2023

I'd feel OK about that.

brer cat

(27,373 posts)
21. I'm very nervous about this trip. I can't think of any before when it was announced
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 08:11 PM
Oct 2023

in advance.

GuppyGal

(1,748 posts)
23. Joe Biden is the President of the United States of America and we know what we're doing.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 08:17 PM
Oct 2023

He'll be fine

chouchou

(2,834 posts)
33. In this day and age and tech..
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 08:54 PM
Oct 2023

..the President definitely should not go to dangerous realities.
Even my neighbor's son said today "Do they really know the accuracy of high-tech drones?"
"Some of the assholes are using them for dear hunting because they're more accurate and you can be
hundreds of yards away"
His words frighten me.
Joe, please don't go.

ancianita

(42,984 posts)
35. Thk our Commander-in-Chief would go to Israel if his military weren't all hands on deck behind him?
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 09:04 PM
Oct 2023

Think Netanyahu couldn't guarantee his safety? Remember when he went to Ukraine during wartime -- and how?

You've got a lot of love to be worried for Joe. I get it.

We just have to have faith that he's going to be okay and do his job as Israel's ally, and as leader of the free world.


duckworth969

(1,228 posts)
36. Don't go Joe
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 09:05 PM
Oct 2023

Now’s not the time, it can wait.

Too much at risk right now, please hold off.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
39. No, now is the time before any invasion into Gaza. We have a real leader. If he is going it is
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 09:29 PM
Oct 2023

because it is necessary

I trust Joe Biden and those around him

Cheezoholic

(3,544 posts)
38. 2 carrier groups and 2k more incoming marines amongst our forces normally in the area
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 09:13 PM
Oct 2023

the US has more fire power in the area than most of the countries around combined. What Israel is threatening to do in Gaza would be mild compared to what we would do should somebody try and go after a US president.

NBachers

(19,200 posts)
41. Israel yes; Netanyahu no. Israel's security is a proven failure; & I don't trust the Secret Service.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 09:38 PM
Oct 2023

Especially at this Puke-weakened point in our government's inability to function. The Maggots are capable of monstrous atrocities. The Maggots are capable of assassinating President Joe Biden in a bid to seize the Presidency. We are in the middle of an ongoing coup. And there will be no way to stop them if they get there.

Netanyahu's looking for a lifeline; and endorsement. Not right now

sheshe2

(96,097 posts)
43. I understand why he is going.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 09:44 PM
Oct 2023

However I don't understand the need to announce his schedule. I feel that it should be kept under wraps. A need to know basis.

Puppyjive

(924 posts)
42. I think it's noble, however
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 09:39 PM
Oct 2023

When high ranking officials enter the zone, it really adds more duties to the service members who's plates are full. I would not advise it. Too many missiles in the area just waiting to take out airborne targets.

greatauntoftriplets

(178,645 posts)
44. I hope that security is extremely tight for him and that it's a brief visit.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 09:54 PM
Oct 2023

It'll probably piss off the repukes because they won't be able to call him a coward.

yellowdogintexas

(23,595 posts)
45. hopefully he will not travel on Air Force One
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 10:03 PM
Oct 2023

When he went to Ukraine he went over on a regular Air Force plane to Poland then went by train to Ukraine. However, the world did not know about it until he was on his way home.

The least they can do is sneak him out of Andrews in an unmarked jet and have him land someplace friendly then get him on one of our carriers.
I still wish it was not made public

MerryBlooms

(12,163 posts)
48. President Biden knows exactly what he's doing. All this
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 10:10 PM
Oct 2023

I don't get the all of of sudden second guessing and hand wringing, after supposed full support of our President. I am 100% behind my President. I am Not doubting his judgment. President Biden has decades of experience in foreign affairs, including, Israel and hamas. He knows what he's doing! Why the hell wouldn't he have the best security in the world? Same for VP Harris? We spend more on military and security than what, the next 5 to 8 countries combined? No harm will come to Biden or Harris!

ShazzieB

(22,240 posts)
56. I could not agree more!
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 10:41 PM
Oct 2023

Some people here are not giving Biden nearly enough credit, imo. He knows exactly what he's doing, and he knows why he is doing it and what he plans to accomplish. He also knows what provisions have been made to assure his safety. I understand feeling distrustful of Netanyu, but Biden has known him for years and years, and we know Biden is no dummy. I trust Joe's judgment and the judgment of his advisors.

I think he's going to be fine, and I think he's got things in mind that we can't even guess at. Have a little faith in the man, people!

William769

(59,147 posts)
49. Bite your tounge
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 10:13 PM
Oct 2023

Second in line? Never! At ;east let's Hope.

I trust President Biden will be in good hands. We do have the best military.

sheshe2

(96,097 posts)
53. You always worry about the ones you care about.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 10:26 PM
Oct 2023

I worried about you when you disappeared for a bit a few years ago.

sheshe2

(96,097 posts)
57. Awww.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 10:44 PM
Oct 2023

That was a beautiful rendition of that song.

Great minds think alike. I just posted Andrew Golds version to Cha on another board. You should stop in there.

PufPuf23

(9,713 posts)
59. POTUS Biden going to the ME now is worrisome
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 10:51 PM
Oct 2023

but assume is well-planned and for the best. Something I know nothing about and should know nothing about the specifics.

Been away from DU since early today and did not like the talk at all about a proposed POTUS trip.

Thought (and think) POTUS Biden making the trip is of high risk and potential consequences. There is only so much a human can do and the consequences of a tragic outcome unfathomable.

My perception is that POTUS Biden is doing everything possible to keep the war from expanding and stop the killing and destruction.

Trust Joe Biden.

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
61. He'll be just fine. And good for Biden for publicly and physically standing in solidarity with the
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 08:30 AM
Oct 2023

people of Israel while also working to prevent a humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza.

Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

kentuck

(115,145 posts)
63. It is different than going to Kiev on a train.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 08:41 AM
Oct 2023

I think they may be attempting to draw some of the terrorists into the open. I doubt that he would go on the schedule announced. That would not be wise.

bluestarone

(21,297 posts)
65. I'm betting that every CAMERA they have is on full ZOOM!
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 08:51 AM
Oct 2023

Just to see the movements after this announcement!

llashram

(6,269 posts)
70. Exactly!
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 03:18 PM
Oct 2023

why? They announce the travel plans. I agree, these are "dangerous times" indeed

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