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Ah yes, the Peter Strzok/Lisa Page lawsuit against the justice department.
Strzok and Page are suing the Trump administration DOJ for releasing their private emails to the press and for succumbing to pressure from Trump to fire them.
Of note, the Garland DOJ had fought to keep Trump from testifying declaring it was unnecessary, but the courts thought otherwise.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-scheduled-to-be-questioned-in-lawsuits-from-ex-fbi-employees-who-sent-negative-texts-about-him/ar-AA1ik9oQ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=0541766569c94a40a101ef9cde33732b&ei=20
malaise
(296,111 posts)K & R for,visibility
livetohike
(24,283 posts)getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)And by extention, how many of those people still work there.
Nothing to see here citizen
Move along.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,395 posts)Might be a first.
gab13by13
(32,321 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,395 posts)Trumps Top Targets in the Russia Probe Are Experts in Organized Crime
Some of President Trumps favorite targets in the Russia probe have spent their careers in the Justice Department and the FBI investigating organized crime and money laundering, particularly as they pertain to Russia.
NATASHA BERTRAND
The Atlantic, AUG 30, 2018
Bruce Ohr. Lisa Page. Andrew Weissmann. Andrew McCabe. President Donald Trump has relentlessly attacked these FBI and Justice Department officials as dishonest Democrats engaged in a partisan witch hunt led by the special counsel determined to tie his campaign to Russia. But Trumps attacks have also served to highlight another thread among these officials and others who have investigated his campaign: their extensive experience in probing money laundering and organized crime, particularly as they pertain to Russia.
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Trumps latest obsession is with Bruce Ohr, a career Justice Department official who spent years investigating Russian organized crime and corruptionan expertise he shared with another Trump target named Christopher Steele, the former British intelligence operative who provided valuable intelligence on Russia to the State Department and the FBIs Eurasian Organized Crime Task Force prior to authoring the Trump-Russia dossier in 2016. Ohr and Steele met in 2007, according to The New York Times, and stayed in touch as a result of their shared interests and mutual respect. Trump has tweeted about Ohr nearly a dozen times this month alone, complaining about his relationship with Steele and Ohrs wifes past work for Fusion GPSthe opposition-research firm that hired Steele in 2016 to research Trumps Russia ties.
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Trumps fixation with seeing Ohr ousted from the Justice Department could be perceived as yet another attempt to undermine the credibility of the people who have investigated him. It could also be interpreted as an attack on someone with deep knowledge of the shady characters Trump and his cohort have been linked to, including Semion Mogilevich, the Russian mob boss, and Oleg Deripaska, a Russian aluminum magnate close to Putin who did business with Trumps former campaign chairman Paul Manafort. (Incidentally, another Manafort associate, the Ukrainian billionaire Dmitry Firtash, admitted that he only managed to be in business because Mogilevich allowed him to be, according to a leaked 2008 State Department cable.) Ohr was involved in banning Deripaska from the U.S. in 2006, due to his alleged ties to organized crime and fear that he would try to launder money into American real estate. Nearly a decade later, Ohr and the FBI sought Deripaskas help in taking down overseas criminal syndicates.
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The president has denied having any business ties to Russia, and his dream of building a Trump Tower Moscow never materialized. But his links to Russian oligarchs and mobsters from the former Soviet Union have been documented: Millions of dollars from the former Soviet Union flowed into Trumps developments and casinos throughout the 1990s, as the journalist Craig Unger has chronicled, as oligarchs looked for a place to hide their money in the West. The Trump Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey, was once known as a hot spot for Brooklyn mobsters associated with the Russian Mafia, and quickly became the favorite East Coast destination of the top Russian mob boss Vyacheslav Ivankov, according to the 2000 book Red Mafiya: How the Russian Mob Has Invaded America. It was also repeatedly cited by the Treasury Departments Financial Crimes Enforcement Network for having inadequate money-laundering controls.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/trumps-top-targets-in-the-russia-probe-are-experts-in-organized-crime/569056/
What I know: MF45 is a traitor who fired the FBI Russia counterespionage team.
AllaN01Bear
(29,495 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,395 posts)President Trump gestures to Russia's ambassador to the U.S., Sergey Kislyak, as he speaks to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in the Oval Office on Wednesday, May 10, 2017. (Alexander Shcherbak/TASS/Getty Images)
I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job," Trump said, according to The Times. "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off.

"I'm not under investigation," he added*.
Sources:
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/10/527755991/trump-meets-with-russias-lavrov-at-the-white-house-today
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-nut-job-james-comey-russia-2017-5
* After Comey, Trump fired just about everyone at FBI investigating Russia, including Page and Strzok.
Shanti Shanti Shanti
(12,047 posts)gab13by13
(32,321 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)nt
Delphinus
(12,522 posts)plead the 5th in this deposition?
Marthe48
(23,175 posts)I haven't seen anything so far that helps me understand why people are mesmerized by his line of utter bs, but maybe experts will watch and tell us.
Although traitor in court is different than traitor in front of a crowd.
gab13by13
(32,321 posts)People are afraid of Trump. People who cross Trump end up getting death threats. Senators voted to not convict Trump in his impeachment trial because they were afraid of death threats.
It is a simple explanation, Trump uses mob tactics.
Why his unwashed Magats blindly follow him? It is a cult, religion is involved, Trump was sent by god to cure all their ills. Maybe most of his cult are mini-Trumps?
cactusfractal
(578 posts)They revere the wealth and stardom.
They have someone famous and essentially uncancelable spouting the same bigotry that informs their own lives.
For him to go down because of it is their own denouement, as well.
Lonestarblue
(13,480 posts)The Trump cult loves to be able to denigrate people they dont like and threaten to kill them, and Trump gives the permission to do just that.
Marthe48
(23,175 posts)Did you ever get in a spot where one of the choices you could make was counter to what you had been taught and you got an interior twinge if you took that option? You knew you were doing wrong, but did it anyway.
Or were you ever in a spot where one of the choices was going to demean you, and you avoided that choice?
Remember the old saying, 'Let your conscience be your guide'? Maybe the cult doesn't like the word conscience because it contains the word science. Who knows?
But even in these times, where is the switch, where is the common sense, that people used to have that made them pick the option that didn't cause the icky feeling within or cause harm to others?
When traitor gets in front of a mike, when the few bits of MSM I watch give him airtime, I can't mute him fast enough. It is like his voice is polluted water and I'm spitting it out so I don't get sick. To his cult, the same babble is music to their ears.
calimary
(90,021 posts)With apologies to garbage disposals everywhere, of course.
And something else Ive noticed. Its higher-pitched than a lot of mens voices.
Marthe48
(23,175 posts)who was wrong, knew he was wrong, and still tried to convince the people around him he was right.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
Or
You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,604 posts)It's low-brow all the way, and it works. If you never watched pro wrestling, you don't get it.
Attilatheblond
(8,878 posts)The critter advocates won that case, I think a trademark violation case or something along that line. Cracked me up cuz Trump was in charge of the choreographed wrestling farce at the time, if memory serves. He who loves to sue got smacked.
msfiddlestix
(8,178 posts)The 6 Trump supporters on the high court will go with Garland on this.
gab13by13
(32,321 posts)Garland backed down on the first E.Jean Carroll lawsuit and it never made it to the SC.
I doubt that Garland will back down on this one though, being an institutionalist he must keep the Justice department from being sullied.
msfiddlestix
(8,178 posts)It's going to take at least one or more generations to fix that sullied problem.
I'm not even suggesting that the problem will ever be wiped perfectly clean, just that it could at least be substantively disinfected by the level of corruption existing thus far.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)Traildogbob
(13,018 posts)Himself. Since when has an oath to anything else occurred? He laughs at the hand on the upside down BuyBull. Telling truth just by placing a hand on that book, as meaningful as the Taliban doing so.
He was told holding it upside down, it would not burn in his hand, by Stephen Miller. A religious scholar.
Farmer-Rick
(12,667 posts)He actually submitted to the court that he, as president, didn't have to support the US Constitution.
The guy sure as crap doesn't understand an oath of loyalty to anyone but his own interests.
NBachers
(19,438 posts)gab13by13
(32,321 posts)Trump nominated Christopher Wray in 2017 as FBI Director. It was Deputy Director David Bowdich who fired Strzok but I am sure at the direction of Wray/Trump.
Federalist Society member Christopher Wray slides under the radar, he is a Magat. He lied to Congress about the intelligence leading up to J6, he should have been fired.
bluestarone
(22,179 posts)LYING under oath! OATH means nothing to TFG! PERIOD!
kentuck
(115,406 posts)From one of Trump's rallies.
They did not support him so he looked to destroy them and their careers.
Attilatheblond
(8,878 posts)While doing great things in FBI Counterintelligence, Strzok exposed, disposed of a spy ring Putin had assembled to work inside the US. Think of the TV show The Americans, it was like that. Trained Russian operatives living in Canada, them moving to the US. Yep, Putin must have REALLY hated Peter Stzrok.
rurallib
(64,688 posts)O, gawd, would I love to see that.
Orrex
(67,111 posts)Trump will receive a stern-ish warning not to do it again or else risk receiving another stern-ish warning.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Trump is justified to be afraid of a perjury trap.
it is impossible to fall into a perjury trap if you tell the truth.
Trump has a legitimate reason to fear a perjury trap.
rurallib
(64,688 posts)nothing has happened to him yet.
edhopper
(37,370 posts)protecting "the Institution".
What he should realize is corrupt institutions aren't worth protecting. Only the glare of sunlight can disinfect them.
appleannie1
(5,457 posts)His truth is what he sees inside his own brain. It is a conglomerate of fantasies, wishes, and dreams. It has nothing to do with reality or truth as we know it. And if they declare he committed perjury, it would be because Biden told them to persecute him. And the really sad part is, his followers would believe that too simply because it is what he is telling them.
jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)Perjury is a crime and the truth exists and is relevant in the courts even if not amongst his cult. Thats sort of the premise that ties together everything thats going on in all of Trump's legal affairs right now... he's trying to argue these cases in the media and social media, but the courts don't care about that bullshit.
appleannie1
(5,457 posts)they too might get to share space with their god.
ShazamIam
(3,129 posts)Martin68
(27,749 posts)pleading the 5th, although the Dumpster probably thinks that's for criminals and cowards and might spill the beans anyway.
republianmushroom
(22,326 posts)whopis01
(3,919 posts)11 Bravo
(24,310 posts)I'll take the over.
Blue Owl
(59,106 posts)nakocal
(625 posts)he may not be able to tell fact from fiction. His supporters are too fucking stupid to tell the difference. At least the ones that are not just pure evil Russian agents.
ShazzieB
(22,590 posts)