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speak easy

(12,598 posts)
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 04:14 PM Oct 2023

Israel says the Al-Ahli Hospital was hit by a malfunctioning rocket

launched by Islamic Jihad. (My take: improbable, but possible)

Israel ישראל 🇮🇱
@Israel
Breaking: IDF Spokesperson

From the analysis of the operational systems of the IDF, an enemy rocket barrage was carried out towards Israel, which passed through the vicinity of the hospital when it was hit.
According to intelligence information, from several sources we have, the Islamic Jihad terrorist organization is responsible for the failed shooting that hit the hospital.




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WarGamer

(18,613 posts)
1. misfired rocket just happens to hit an ammo dumo near hospital...
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 04:16 PM
Oct 2023

Or IDF strike hits ammo dump.


I don't know... we will probably never know because BOTH sides are capable of spinning.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
3. If they allowed a neutral party to go in and investigate, it could be determined. Problem is
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 04:22 PM
Oct 2023

the hostilities going on now make it quite dangerous for anyone to be there

DFW

(60,186 posts)
4. If some neutral forensics people arer allowed in
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 04:25 PM
Oct 2023

They would be able to detrmine from the debris pretty quickly who fired the rocket that did the damage.

It is just as clear that whoever was responsible will not be eager to let anyone impartial conduct that investigation.

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
6. It would be difficult to do
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 04:26 PM
Oct 2023

A time on target strike coordinated with an enemy rocket launch that coincidentally passes over the targeted ammo dump (that should not have been anywhere near a hospital) .

Lancero

(3,276 posts)
8. The ammo dump would be a legitimate target, but people will blame Israel either way.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 04:29 PM
Oct 2023

If Israel directly targeted it, then might as well own it - Backlash is the same.

More likely to be one of Hamas's improvised rockets failing and landing on one of their many weapons caches. Hamas can't exactly own up to blowing up their own hospital, so of course they'll claim it was a Israeli bomb that did it.

 

MOMFUDSKI

(7,080 posts)
2. At this point believe
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 04:20 PM
Oct 2023

none of what you hear and half of what you see. False flags abound.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
11. I'm not a "rocket scientist" ...
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 04:32 PM
Oct 2023

I'm not a "rocket scientist" but Occam's Razor suggests that there are remnants, and the remnants would indicate who fired it.

Lovie777

(22,983 posts)
7. If it's determined by actual video and other evidence that the rockets....................
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 04:26 PM
Oct 2023

were fired from within Gaza towards Israel where one or more failed and hit the close to the hospital area, then yes, unfortunately lives were taking because of it.

And yes, there are quite a few of those ammunition sites throughout Gaza.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
12. I
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 04:50 PM
Oct 2023

am suspicious of pretty much all Tweets. Especially those who are "reporting" "facts" from the US about the happenings in Israel/Gaza and who's twitter account, when clicked on "suggests" in the "you might like" area republican congress people.

demmiblue

(39,720 posts)
10. Laurie Garrett retweet (fwiw): #BREAKING: One minute before the Baptist Hospital in Gaza was hit,...
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 04:30 PM
Oct 2023
#BREAKING: One minute before the Baptist Hospital in Gaza was hit, Hams announced on its own Telegram channel that they were launching their strongest rockets at the northern Israeli city of Haifa.

However, no interceptions or impacts were detected near Haifa.



DetroitLegalBeagle

(2,504 posts)
13. Any pics from the hospital?
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 05:53 PM
Oct 2023

A JDAM will leave a pretty large crater. A hamas type rocket not so much.

tritsofme

(19,900 posts)
14. Why do you find it improbable? Because it interferes with your "evil evil Israel" narrative?
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 05:56 PM
Oct 2023

speak easy

(12,598 posts)
16. You are barking up the wrong tree.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 06:09 PM
Oct 2023

Look through my previous posts. I posted it here to give Israel's response ASAP.

As for probability - I'll quote the first response here: 'A misfired rocket just happens to hit an ammo dump near hospital or an IDF strike hits ammo dump.'

If however, after a through accounting, the IDF can confirm that there were no strikes at that time, in that area, I shall accept their version of events.

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