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Pototan

(1,300 posts)
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 07:30 PM Oct 2023

Democrats responsible for no Speaker?

Kevin McCarthy and some right-wing talking heads want to pin the blame for the chaos in the US House of Representatives on the fact that no Democrats crossed party lines to save or pick a Republican Speaker. The shortage of votes was, and is, the result of Republicans being unable to reach the magic number of 218 (or, in yesterday's case, 217).

Every time this comes up, the interviewer should ask any Republican supporter or complainer who makes this claim, "nothing prevents 6 or 7 Republican congressmen from crossing party lines and voting with the Democrats for Jeffries, thereby providing the House with a qualified Speaker."

It's the same line of reasoning.

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MontanaMama

(23,422 posts)
2. To be fair...
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 07:37 PM
Oct 2023

you're asking interviewers and members of the media to actually do their job. That doesn't happen very often any more.

calimary

(81,960 posts)
3. Excellent retort! Thanks, Pototan!
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 07:45 PM
Oct 2023

"Every time this comes up, the interviewer should ask any Republican supporter or complainer who makes this claim, 'nothing prevents 6 or 7 Republican congressmen from crossing party lines and voting with the Democrats for Jeffries, thereby providing the House with a qualified Speaker'."


ABSOLUTELY!!!

B.See

(1,614 posts)
5. Haven't ya heard? Democrats are responsible for EVERYTHING...
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 09:10 PM
Oct 2023

... because it's easy to blame someone else when YOU'RE COMPLETLY AND TOTALLY IRRESPONSIBLE.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
6. If we had a real media, rather than a bunch of lapdogs
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 09:39 PM
Oct 2023

To corporate masters, they would always ask every traitor thug blaming Democrats for not voting for their buffoons this question:

"How many of your traitor KKKlan voted for Nancy Pelosi to be Speaker?"

And when they of course try to deflect, then hit them with this question:
"Why should they show support for your leadership, when you have shown none for theirs?"

Rhiannon12866

(209,140 posts)
7. Who can blame the Democrats for not voting for a divisive Speaker who takes orders from TFG?
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 10:19 PM
Oct 2023

What do the Republicans expect when they keep nominating the least qualified candidates??

Rhiannon12866

(209,140 posts)
11. Excellent point! And she is likely the most experienced and qualified Speaker in history.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 10:32 PM
Oct 2023

But the Republicans have become strictly partisan, even among themselves, which is why they're experiencing the chaos that they are.

Pototan

(1,300 posts)
15. You're correct
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 10:41 PM
Oct 2023

Pelosi had a similar majority and led effectively and had no problem gaining and holding the Speakership. She didn't ask for or receive any Republican votes to become the Speaker.

The Republicans hold a similar, slim majority. If they can't lead or pick a Speaker, there is no one else to blame but themselves.

My suggested response is that to try to place the blame on Democrats is preposterous.

Perhaps someone can name me one Republican that voted for a Democratic Speaker in the last 100 years. I've tried to find one and can't.

keithbvadu2

(37,528 posts)
14. Meaning that junior member Gaetz is a better leader than you, senior member Kevin15.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 10:37 PM
Oct 2023

Kevin15 blames the democrats for working with Gaetz.

Meaning that junior member Gaetz is a better leader than you, senior member Kevin15.

Aussie105

(5,629 posts)
17. Republicans often get a free pass from the media.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 10:52 PM
Oct 2023

I wonder why?

. . . actually, I don't. Vested interests, bothsiderism, etc

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