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PCIntern

(25,720 posts)
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 09:08 AM Oct 2023

Hey media stars and wannabes:

Remember Saddam Hussein? You used to quote him and imply his veracity as though he were Albert Schweitzer. “Today, Saddam Hussein stated that there were no political prisoners being held…”. And then of course it would come out that there were 20000 prisoners being held in jails reminiscent of those in the film Ben Hur. No retractions, no explanations for idiotic quotes without some decent amount of skepticism.

So yesterday, a hospital exploded and the MSNBC correspondent stated that this most certainly be a “turning point” and that it “changes everything”. Well, apparently Hamas bombed its own ammo dump, conveniently located next to a hospital, rather than a school this time, and I’m waiting for the “we screwed up once again” self-repudiations. I gather that I will be waiting a long time.

The statement may be distilled down as this: we believed Hamas when they told us of this horror but require proof beyond any reasonable doubt that Israel didn’t bomb the hospital. Intercepted transmissions, video, and satellite imagery may not be enough to persuade us. We will have to think about this. Don’t call us, we’ll call you.

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Hey media stars and wannabes: (Original Post) PCIntern Oct 2023 OP
I saw most of that right here. The Blame Israel First Brigade was rabid with the hate. nt LexVegas Oct 2023 #1
I also remember weapons of mass destruction. gab13by13 Oct 2023 #2
Absolutely... PCIntern Oct 2023 #3
Is it confirmed there was an ammo dump? Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2023 #4
There's an article on disinformation from EDMO usonian Oct 2023 #5
Kick dalton99a Oct 2023 #6
So inthewind21 Oct 2023 #7
You know, PCIntern Oct 2023 #8

gab13by13

(21,632 posts)
2. I also remember weapons of mass destruction.
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 09:14 AM
Oct 2023

The fog of war.

Don't take my statement to mean I believe that the rocket was Israeli, I don't. I'm just saying there is a lot of misinformation during a war from all sides.

PCIntern

(25,720 posts)
3. Absolutely...
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 09:21 AM
Oct 2023

And it is the responsibility of the press to do their best to report fact, not speculation or propaganda.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,724 posts)
4. Is it confirmed there was an ammo dump?
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 09:33 AM
Oct 2023

Seems more likely to have been leftover rocket fuel, since it landed far short of its intended target.

Wonder if there will ever be confirmation of the actual number of casualties. Tv was still spouting leftover rumors from yesterday as if they were fact.

usonian

(10,106 posts)
5. There's an article on disinformation from EDMO
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 09:34 AM
Oct 2023
https://edmo.eu/2023/10/17/edmo-preliminary-analysis-of-the-israel-hamas-conflict-related-disinformation/

It is very preliminary but does have links (or docs with links) to sources they checked, conspiracy theories, and filter failures.

FWIW, and YMMV
Ongoing.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
7. So
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 11:10 AM
Oct 2023

you're chastising others for lack of proof while at the same time making a claim with lack of proof.

PCIntern

(25,720 posts)
8. You know,
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 11:22 AM
Oct 2023

I sort of expected that.

No…I’m not a news organization and they as a matter of professional responsibility they needed to wait for those types of guilty verdicts until and unless it’s demonstrated. The obvious in the Middle East is not so obvious, correct?

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