This is probably going to start some shit,

[MarineCombatEngineer]

but, I am damned proud to be an American with Pres. Joe Biden at the helm of our Govt. and standing up for Western values with regards to the Ukrainian and Israeli wars.

Go Joe and I hope that all Democrats remember this in 2024 and defeat fascism via Benedict Donald.

[brewens]

1. Absolutely. Put down Trump, Putin and Nutandyahoo. Whatever it takes. Plus, defeat Hams while we're at

it, of course.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

18. +100. nt

[AdamGG]

134. Except has Biden done anything to stand up to Netanyahu?

I guess time will tell if Netanyahu goes for long term occupation of Gaza and wouldn't be surprised if Bibi wants annexation. Then, we'll see how much Joe tries to reign him in.

I understand that Israel needs to respond, but I'm not sure that ground invasion would even be strategically good for Israel. They could take lots of casualties and objectives may not be obtainable and they could spur more antagonism toward them. But, it's probably good domestic politics for Netanyahu who did an incompetent job of preparing defenses of Gaza and needs to look strong.

[BootinUp]

2. Lol. No it won't.

[sarisataka]

7. Don't be so sure

Some people are... less than happy with Biden.

[BootinUp]

8. Ok then. I feel like he is living up to

The James Bond song Nobody does it better.

[sarisataka]

21. .

[Playingmantis]

25. Some people are always dissatisfied no matter what...

We live in an age of cynicism and negativity

[aggiesal]

60. Some people are only happy when they're miserable. n/t

[ShazzieB]

112. That's for darned sure.

And people who decline to join in on the cynicism and negativity get called pollyannas and worse.

I wear the pollyannna label proudly myself!

[BobsYourUncle]

129. My mother's expression was

If it makes you happy to be unhappy, go ahead—be happy.

Can’t tell you how many years it took me to get that!

[LakeArenal]

29. Are you speaking for yourself?

If so what makes you ( or if you speak for others, anyone else) “less than happy”.

Or is this a trump, “ people tell me”thing?

[sarisataka]

36. I am referring to posters who have called Biden

"Stupid", to "stop kissing Israel's ass" and "he needs to be a one term President".

If you look below, I have already expressed my satisfaction with his efforts.

[Big Blue Marble]

53. You had better understand that many younger Democrats are watching this crisis with different eyes.

They have a much more sympathetic view of the Palestinians than many on DU. They
are not Israel, right or wrong like so many here. Biden may lose support with these
voters who are already questioning his re-election, especially as the death toll continues
to rise and aid is restricted.

[Eliot Rosewater]

55. I wish I could say you are wrong. I am afraid there is some truth to this...

Unfortunately many who must vote to save democracy already think, wrongly, that there will not be SS or Medicare when they get older and thus they dont bother to vote to save it.

Sadly many of them didnt even bother to show up AFTER Roe was overturned as only 27% did, under the age of 29.

A good friend of mine on here educated me that this is NOT their fault, because my knee jerk is to blame them. We must talk to them and tell them why they have to vote in every election for any Democrat.

[Big Blue Marble]

65. I agree.

The poll yesterday on DU with only 25% support for Joe among younger voters
is frightening especially when our democracy hangs in the balance.

My hope is that the Republican candidate will be so bad that they will
come out in sufficient numbers to re-elect Biden and that the abortion issue
will drive them to the polls as well.

[Rebl2]

133. Wonder who

they prefer. Hope it isn’t tfg.

[Bev54]

117. I remember when I was much younger, I too, was told there would not be any

Canada Pension for us by the time we got to retirement age and I am sure many in the US heard the same. Well it is still going strong and it will be there for the next generation, if people want it to be.

[betsuni]

122. Yes, in the '80s (U.S.) I heard lots of other young people say the same thing.

[LakeArenal]

56. I had better understand? I've spent decades with 19 to 25 year olds.

I have seen them wait in line for a couple hours in 90 degrees to see Biden.

In my opinion many to most are solidly with Biden.

[Big Blue Marble]

69. I am not just talking about the first-time voters.

I am talking about those under 35 who use a more balanced filters when viewing the
Israeli Palestinian conflict than those of previous generations.

Biden has to convince them he is a concerned as much about the Gazans dying now
as the Israelis who died on October 7th. So far he has not.

[happy feet]

95. I believe he has shown concern

for Gazans in his speeches? Perhaps they’re listening to others vs what he himself says?

[betsuni]

99. Yes he has, clearly. They're listening to others.

[Big Blue Marble]

103. Minimal concern and so far no results.

People in the US and around the world are watching over million children under fire
while starving, dehydrated, forced to drink contaminated water. Biden only promised
to support the relief of this suffering, he has not accomplished any results.

[betsuni]

127. Why is that his fault?

[Big Blue Marble]

135. It is being seen as his fault because he is the leader of the free world.

Perceptions are more important than facts; haven't you noticed?

He has green lighted Israel to pretty much do what they want. And now they
are not listening to anyone as the Gazans wait for sufficient aid, medical supplies and water.

[Sugarcoated]

136. He's said numerous times

That he was blunt in telling Netanyahu to show restraint, that if/when Israel goes after Hamas it must be very careful, to consider the Innocent Palestinians

[Big Blue Marble]

138. Actions speak louder than words.

The world is watching the rising death count and the destruction of Gaza while
the basic necessities of life are being withheld.

[Sugarcoated]

139. I was speaking to you saying

Biden "greenlighted" killing. He has not.

[Big Blue Marble]

140. Most experts would disagree with you. N/T

[happy feet]

148. What experts are you speaking of?

[MorbidButterflyTat]

100. Yes because

trump will do so very much for the Palestinians.

Prez Biden expressed his concern very well last night in his speech. Perhaps you missed it.

[Big Blue Marble]

105. They will not vote for Trump; they will vote for a third party or stay home.

They are less and less willing to see themselves as Democrats.

And as far as last night, no desperately needed supplies entered Gaza today.
despite Biden's expression of concern. Little help that brings to the babies
of Gaza who are living on the edge.

And do not tell me that is Egypt's fault, because it is Israel who refusing to
guarantee the safety of the aid workers as well as other stalling tactics.

[betsuni]

111. They prefer Republicans then. That's their choice.

[SouthernDem4ever]

130. It will be a very sad lesson to learn for them

I am in the latter stage of my life - they will have to live with the consequences for years to come.

[Scrivener7]

87. This is absolutely true.

[ecstatic]

110. true, they're following this closely.

My usually low info sister told me that President Biden had given Palestinians 100 million dollars in aid, so it's good that that info is at least getting out. She gets all her info from social media and she knew before me. lol

[RocRizzo55]

120. Thanks

I couldn’t have said it better

[brush]

126. I'm not Israel right or wrong, but I feel a Palestinian state should have a right to exist...

as does Israel. I also feel Hamas has to go as there have been many assassinations in the region over the decades, including Egyptian President Anwar Sadat, Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, an attempted assassination of President Nasser of Egypt, and others.

The Muslim Brotherhood assassinated Sadat

HAMAS formed in late 1987 at the beginning of the first Palestinian intifada (uprising). Its roots are in the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, and it is supported by a robust sociopolitical structure inside the Palestinian territories.

Bad penny Netanyahu also has to go. His admin's intelligence arm failed miserably here, but also were wrong in thinking keeping Hamas in place for control of Gaza was the right way to go. Of course he/they couldn't have been more wrong.

On this immediate crisis now, I feel Biden is correct in backing Israel to go after Hamas. He and Sec'y Blinken are urging restraint in how it's done...perhaps special forces to go after Hamas' tunnels instead of a full-on invasion of Gaza.

[Trueblue Texan]

131. Like one of the hostages reported yesterday...

...the current conflagration isn't about the Israelis and the Palestinians. It's about Israel and Hamas. The Palestinians are being used by Hamas and are in the crossfire. Israel must defeat Hamas then help build a Palestinian state.

[BidenRocks]

91. Why are people unhappy with Pres, Biden?

I call bullshit!
Look at his record!

[leftstreet]

3. What are "western values?"

[MarineCombatEngineer]

9. Ummm,

standing up for human rights.
I thought that was evident.
I do understand that not all of the world embraces that concept, including the USA at times, but with Pres. Biden, we've come a long way compared to Benedict Donald's Admin.

[leftstreet]

11. Oh, okay n/t

[WhiskeyGrinder]

16. .

[MarineCombatEngineer]

17. I don't understand what that's supposed to imply.

Maybe you could elaborate?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

19. Sure, I'm laughing at someone saying "western values" equals "human rights."

I'm not actually Christina Hendricks, though. That's a clip from Mad Men.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

31. Ok, well, respectfully,

you are entitled to your opinion, on which I don't embrace, but do respect.
Peace out
Daniel

[paleotn]

71. Vs. cutting off hands and heads for stealing or calling the ruler a butthead?

You know, it could be worse. A whole fucking hell of a lot worse. Think about that. You really don't have to worry about someone coming to your door and dragging you away and no one ever seeing you alive again for typing bullshit. What a country!

If you're looking for nirvana, you're not going to find it. We're not perfect, but we try most of the time. That's about as fucking good as it gets on planet earth. Maybe you should clue into reality. Just a thought.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

75. +100. nt

[WhiskeyGrinder]

68. .

As the old saying goes, if you don't like it then fucking leave.

Leave if I don't like...what?

Oh, and you're typing your snark from the bubble of protection granted you by a western power. As I said, your response is kind of pathetic.

K.

[paleotn]

72. As I said....pathetic.

[Celerity]

124. de rec nt

[MarineCombatEngineer]

77. C'mon,

we all have our opinions, but we should be coming together to defeat this fascism trying to take over our democracy,
Not meant as a rebuke, just an observation.

[Scrivener7]

82. I think you're replying to the wrong person. Whiskey was simply

block quoting response 66 where the guy told her if she doesn't like it she should fucking leave.

[Celerity]

125. Yes, I think so as well. That reply (to WhiskeyGrinder) in post 66 was offensive AF.

[Scrivener7]

137. Kinda like a chant you'd hear at a MAGA tiki torch parade.

[progressoid]

40. standing up for human rights....hmmm

I get the sentiment but...well...we haven't exactly had a stellar track record in that category in recent history.

like the loss of reproductive rights for women.
The inability to protect our citizens from other citizens with guns.
We lead the world with the most incarcerated.
Our tendency to fuck around with other country's governance, most notably the unnecessary war in Iraq.
...etc.

I know that the US was seen as shining example to a lot of other people, but I think the shine has become tarnished.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

42. I cannot, in good conscious, disagree with you,

but we need to elect more Dems to rectify this.

[progressoid]

48. Absolutely!

[Skittles]

97. America started two wars because of what some guys from Saudi Arabia did

America doesn't always make the best decisions.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

104. I fully agree with that and have basically acknowledged it. nt

[Skittles]

113. also

America has never had a female president - that right there says nothing good.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

114. +100.

I would love to see VP Harris run for Pres. after Pres. Biden's second term.
I can dream can't I?

[Walleye]

106. Joe Biden said, "we haven't always lived up to it, but we've never walked away from it"

[Caliman73]

85. Umm

The United States has stood up for human rights? Consistently? As a "western value"?

Like when we have supported right wing governments in Central America?

Like when we supported the coup in Chile to replace Salvador Allende with Pinochet?

Like supporting the the Brazilian military junta that lasted like 20 years?

Like supporting the ouster of Mossadegh and the installation of the Iranian Shah leading to the Islamic Revolution?

Like supporting the Saudi government that is basically a theocracy?

Don't get me wrong. I do think that we as a country espouse the belief that women should have rights, that workers should have rights, that popular democracy should be promoted, etc... I just think it is a bit odd that our history and current policies fall very short of such a general statement.

President Biden is fundamentally a decent and kind human being. I can say that unequivocally. He truly cares about people. You could see that in how he talked about being with the victims and survivors of the recent violence in Gaza and Israel. Under his leadership, we do have a good chance at living up to our ideals. I cannot however, say that it is "evident" that western values automatically means "standing up for human rights". Donald Trump was elected, George W Bush was elected, Ronald Reagan was elected, all of whom trampled the rights of people in our own country and around the world.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

88. Ummm,

perhaps you missed this part of my post:

I do understand that not all of the world embraces that concept, including the USA at times

s,

[Caliman73]

93. Ummmm

No. I didn't miss that part.

I think that "at times" is not clear or strong enough. Look, I actually read and like many of your posts. I simply have a disagreement about the whole idea of "Western Values" and how much of a role the United States plays in standing up for human rights.

Like I said, I think that President Biden has been the exact right choice to help us bounce back after that disgusting piece of shit, Trump. I will certainly support Biden and think that history will be good to him despite the difficulties that are happening during his administration. I think that the Democratic Party is moving in the correct direction, with people like AOC, Maxwell Frost, etc... guided by younger but experienced people like Hakeem Jeffries and veterans like Nancy Pelosi, I think that if we can get more Democrats into office, we will really start to live up to our ideals. I suppose I get a weird vibe from things I sense as American Exceptionalism. It may be entirely me, but like I said, "Western Values" doesn't really mean anything when you see historically, where it came from. Greece and Rome where yes the ideas of democracy were presented, but where kings and empire also flourished, to England and France, again where absolute monarchy was the norm for hundreds of years, and empires spanning the globe took root, to Us pushing Capitalism and consumerism across the globe, certainly doing good things and advancing technology, but very much doing things to keep our wealthy, wealthy at the expense of our own people and people around the world.

We talk about the "crisis on the border" without even acknowledging that we facilitate that with or economic and political policies abroad. Our insane "War on Drugs" creates the incentives that make Cartels and the illicit drug trade so lucrative that Narco gangs rival the power of governments, that we have also kept relatively weak by destabilizing countries when they choose political and economic systems (Socialism) that we don't like.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

98. Look, I get where your coming from and do agree with you some what,

but without the US, realistically where would we be now?
I'll wholeheartedly agree that we haven't been the shining beacon on the hill for human rights, far from it, but compared to Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and so on and so forth, we are centuries ahead of them on human rights.

[Magoo48]

92. I'm with you on Joe Biden doing a fine job. He has done and will continue to do a good job.

That said, I also wasn’t clear on the “western values” thing. Standing up for human rights goes back long before there was a “west”. And like everywhere else, human rights have been crushed and obliterated in the west as well as all other directions. Native peoples here as well as indigenous people wherever Europeans showed up had no rights and weren’t even considered human.

[róisín_dubh]

119. Well the US could start by...

ratifying some human rights treaties and enforcing the ones we have ratified. We’re no defenders of human rights. That’s a myth.
Defending human rights would require the country to care more about people than corporations.
And get guns under control.
And guarantee my human rights as a woman.
And guarantee right to housing.. I can go on.
International human rights legal scholar and historian here and we are not a shining beacon. We just bought the myth.

Oh and if I get told to fuck off and leave, fear not, I already have 😊

[LakeArenal]

30. Good one

[speak easy]

50. Liberal democracy

- free elections between political parties - separation of powers between the branches of government - the rule of law in everyday life - market economy with private property - universal suffrage - equal protection of human rights, civil rights, civil liberties, and freedom of speech.

[FakeNoose]

4. K & R

[peppertree]

45. Every time I see that smile, I know we'll be alright

There isn't a doubt in my mind that, had Needy Amin somehow been re-elected, we'd be in both a banking collapse and World War III by now.

We are truly blessed.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

49. There is no doubt in my mind that what you say is unvarnished truth. nt

[peppertree]

51. Thank you.

I only hope more people see it that way.

[ShazzieB]

116. I certainly do!

[peppertree]

132. I worry about the swing voters though

As you know, they're oh-so susceptible to media influence - and they swing one way, and then swing in the other.

[LiberaBlueDem]

5. American empire rules

Yes, we do, although we do kiss a lot of ass to stay on top.

How long can we keep it up? I mean, we have electile disfunction and a real illness in the loins.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

13. That is an excellent question,

one which I have no answer to.

[sarisataka]

6. Why not

The fans are getting clogged so what's a bit more?

I support our President fully.

[sheshe2]

10. ...

[MarineCombatEngineer]

15. I think I'm in love with you sheshe2.

[sheshe2]

23. Awwwwww.

[erronis]

12. As soon as someone tells me "This is going to cause some trouble", I say "bring it on"

We need more stirring of the pot and trying new things. The best people I have worked with have pushed envelopes and worked around the stupids. I worked a lot in the military as a contractor, and the ones I respected were the ones that could give good explanations of their mission, rather than parroting regulations and work orders.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

14. Well stated.

[hueymahl]

34. Don't see how supporting the status quo is stirring the pot or trying new things

But whatever.

[betsuni]

76. What do you mean by "status quo," exactly? That a Biden/Democratic admin. is the same as a Trump/Republican

administration?

[KS Toronado]

20. Nephew and I were discussing yesterday the best strategy for 2024

Paint all elected MAGAts as FASCISTS and the enemy of Democracy. And who are the elected MAGAts? All of the R congress critters who have voted to protect tfg from his misdeeds, voted against the Electoral College results trying to keep him in office, all those who want him back in the White House.

If you're a tRUMP enabler now or in the past, this Country can not afford you a 2nd chance at rewriting the Constitution.

On Edit:
And on the local levels, all those who have said "nice" things about tfg or support him. They all lean FASCIST.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

28. +100.

I couldn't have said it better.

[mcar]

22. I support this 100%

President Biden is doing an amazing job!

[Initech]

24. Amen to that! Fuck Trump and Putin and all of their minions.

This is definitely one of those times where we need cooler heads at the top. The MAGA fuckheads can wallow in their own self-pity.

[brer cat]

26. I support this fully!

[Cha]

27. Hallelujah!!💕

[MarineCombatEngineer]

33. Aww, thank you Cha,

you are one of my favorite here.

[Cha]

57. As it turns out

Backatcha 💙🌊🇺🇸🕊️🇮🇱🇺🇦

[GuppyGal]

32. I'm with you Marine.....I'm proud to be an American all the time, warts and all.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

73. And thank you for getting it right,

many here spell it as marine, which is an insult to active duty and retired Marines.
Good job!!!

[orangecrush]

35. K&R

[PortTack]

37. Absolutely!!

[Codifer]

38. Absolutely agree...

with but one sorta caution: It won't get solved in 2024.

There is a shit ton of evil in this world, pervading evil, so many layers of evil. It will take a long time. It will be a forever struggle.

It always has been.

.... but we have the rule of law on our side. That is huge.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

47. Excellent, excellent reply.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

39. Joe Biden....The ADULT in the room.

Who can fucking argue with that?

[DBoon]

41. Biden is showing his competence and his compassion

He cares for people and knows how to push political systems to make things happen.

[Elessar Zappa]

43. I'm with you 100% brother.

He’s a great man and a great president.

[Big Blue Marble]

44. I grew up being taught a different meaning of western values.

We are the purveyors of human rights and civil rights around the world attempting to
shame authoritarians in protecting their own citizens. Our invasion of Iraq was partly justified
by Hussein's abuse of his minorities

Authoritarians around the world are watching our endorsement of this horrific slaughter
of children and the innocents of Gaza with great attention. And if many more are killed,
even in the 100,000's that are at risk of dying in the coming weeks, we will have lost our
moral authority and with it our opportunity to bring freedom and democracy to the world.

And in ceding our influence, we will cede the world to China.

[TexasDem69]

94. When did Biden

Endorse the slaughter of children? That’s a whole lot of rhetoric right there. I assume you support Israel’s right to defend itself from Hamas’ murderers?

[brush]

46. With you 100%.

Go, Joe.

[PJMcK]

52. Im with you!

President Biden has made me proud again as an American and a Democrat.

[hueymahl]

54. Hell yeah! 'merica!

https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_1423537

[MarineCombatEngineer]

58. I always hated that slogan,

it doesn't reflect American values.

[hueymahl]

62. Agree 100%

We should all be free to disagree with those we elect to lead us, without being shamed for doing so.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

63. Absolultely!!!!

Thank you.

[Scrivener7]

78. What the everloving fuck?

[hueymahl]

86. lol

[bluestarone]

59. I'm very proud to rec THIS!!

[MarineCombatEngineer]

61. Wow!!!!

I didn't expect this kind of response to my thread.
Thank you all for your input, whether you agree or not, I respect all opinions.

[paleotn]

64. +1000

[Submariner]

67. I served with fiercely anti-Soviet

mates for years in the '60s following JFK's call to repel Russia everywhere.

I can barely tamp down the hate I have for these trump ass-licking putin loving treason weasels. They have no right to trash the Democracy our parents preserved for us during WWII.

Biden is the mature steady hand with the respect of the international community, and I hope all Democrats, and needs to be re-elected 2024.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

70. Well, jeez submariner,

don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.

I'm guessing that you were the Bottom Gun of the US defense posture.

Thank you for your service Navy.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

74. I am so glad that we have a real POTUS now

[Caliman73]

79. "Western Values"?

Anytime someone says "western values" that sends up little warning flags. Especially because:

1. It is so vague as to mean anything and nothing...
2. For right wingers it is code for "What White people want".
3. Fascism is a "western" idea as are Socialism and Communism. They were all brought into the political discussion by Germans, French, Italians, and other western societies.
4. It just seems like a way to say "Us" versus "Them"

I am glad that we have a responsible, intelligent, and compassionate person like President Biden as the head representative of the United States. He doesn't want to see anyone suffering and is trying to promote the welfare of all of the people who are "caught in the middle" of the conflicts mentioned. With respect to Russia and Ukraine, he is definitely on the side of self determination for Ukraine and checking aggression from Russia in Putin's bid to restore the "Russian Empire" for his own aggrandizement.

The fundamental difference between Democrats and Republicans is in their Constituency. For Democrats the constituency is ALL of the American People, regardless of whether they are Democrats or Republicans. Democrats want to use the power of government to make the lives of as many Americans better. Republicans serve the wealthy, Christian Nationalists, and primarily White people. They want to impose a specific idea of society onto everyone, which inevitably would lead to authoritarianism.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

115. In case you missed it, and I'm not being rude,

but I did say concerning the Ukraine and Israeli wars, other than that, I agree with the rest of your post.

[Stuart G]

80. I am proud to have Joe Biden as the President of the United States

[cactusfractal]

81. Fuck. To the yes.

I don't care if the President trips on the stairs or over his own words from time to time.

Hell, *I* trip on the stairs and over my own words from time to time.

In the lifetime of public service rendered by Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr., one may rightly disagree with his policy priorities, but his obvious dedication to that public service is just plain unimpeachable.

[Evolve Dammit]

83. Could not agree more. Democracy vs. fascist dictators and/or religious autocrats.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

84. +100.

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This is our time to step up and declare that we aren't going to surrender our democracy to a bunch of fascist wannabe terrorists, we need to come together and defeat this new age Nazism and relegate it to the dust bins of history.
I'm fast approaching the end of my life, and I'm ok with that, this will fall on my children, grand children and great grandchildren, I truly hope they are ready to carry the torch of democracy.

[DENVERPOPS]

123. MCE.......perfectly said!

Thanks, again!!!!!!!!!!

[MarineCombatEngineer]

141. My pleasure DENVERPOPS.

Good to see you again, how are things going?

[DENVERPOPS]

149. MCE

just chugging along......Putting it in Compound Low and letting out the clutch to begin every day......LOL

I am beginning to think that 2024 is gonna be like no year ever before experienced in U.S. History, or for that matter in the whole planet earth.

Hang in there, stay safe and warm MCE......

[Evolve Dammit]

145. never thought I would have to pass on small arms training to my kids, but here we are. And I refuse

to let them "win" cause they have no idea what that even looks like or means after they burn it all down.

[Evolve Dammit]

146. never thought would have to consider passing on small arms training to my kids, but here we are. I refuse

to let them "win" by violence and intimidation, threats and elections denial because they have no idea what that even looks like or even means after they try to burn it all down. The Orange Boy plays on their grievance of America being destroyed by liberalism and immigrants. So ironic considering Grampa Drumpf came from Bavaria and ended up being deported. Great piece by Lawrence O'Donnell on the Drumpf's (real name) family origins. And of course, his Dad arrested at KKK rally (WaPo) in NYC.

[Red Mountain]

101. Agreed

defeating them overseas will become a teachable moment for domestic audiences.

We need a reminder for the complacent what real freedom means.

[Igel]

89. Nutritious food starts shit. n/t

[Bayard]

90. I am SO proud of President Biden!

He represents this country so well to the rest of the world, with his intelligence, eloquence, diplomacy, fairness, humility, honesty, and patriotism.

Just terrific after TFG fiasco.

[Progressive dog]

96. I support President Biden

He understands that ignoring Hamas terrorists and wannabe dictators is not going to keep us out of war. Putin and Hamas are already at war against democracies and common decency.

[oldsoftie]

102. I'm with you! nt

[Tetrachloride]

107. the shit was started long ago. more people added than subtracted.

[OAITW r.2.0]

108. To be honest, I can't possibly see how your post will "start some shit" here

If you posted in opposite world, say, FreeRepublic, yes, this post would cause some shit. In fact, it would get you ZOTED (or whatever the term is for maintaining the hive mentality).

[wendyb-NC]

109. 1000%

I agree with you.

[AlexSFCA]

118. Love my president!

His unwavering support for Israel will be for the history books. We saw how this most terrorist attacks triggered swaths of extremists on far right and also far left and brought blatant antisemitism. Biden knows what he is doing. In fact, no one else is as qualified as he is to navigate this. There is only one side in either Ukraine or Israel wars and it’s the side of democratic values, liberty, human rights, decency etc. The other side only brings death and suffering.

[GoodRaisin]

121. This is what is meant when they talk about who will be in the White House

when the call comes at 3 AM.

Just imagine what it would be like if Dick Tater took the call.

[Paladin]

128. + 1000%. (nt)

[Army Brat]

142. We're fighting for freedom

We're on the right side.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

143. Welcome to DU

Army Brat.
Semper Fi.

[Army Brat]

144. Thank you

Hooah!

[AntiFascist]

147. One of Biden's superpowers is his ability to reach across the isle...

and deal with right-wing politicos like Netanyahu, who is also an old friend. I hope he was able to get through to him, but I fear that Netanyahu's top priority is remaining in power at all costs.