Dave Chappelle triggers walkout of Boston show after criticizing US, Israel and Hamas

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

Dave Chappelle triggers WALKOUT from Boston show after comedian slammed Hamas attacks on Israel, Israel for cutting off water to Gaza and said pro-Palestine students should not lose job offers
Dave Chappelle, 50, aired his views about the conflict in the Middle East during his performance at the TD Garden arena on Thursday
He slammed Israel over its response to the attack by Hamas which has included over 6,000 bombs dropped on Gaza in less than a week
Chappelle also accused the US of aiding the slaughter of innocent civilians during his show and said war crimes were taking place in Gaza

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Chappelle condemned the Hamas attacks on October 7, in which 1,400 Israelis were killed and another 200 were taken hostage, before he slammed Israel's military response, according to audience members.

An audience member told the comedian to shut up and an emotional Chappelle criticized the Israeli government for cutting off water, along with fuel and electricity that power water and sewage plants.

It had also blocked off humanitarian aid from reaching Gaza from Israel.

There were cheers from some audience members who shouted 'Free Palestine' while others reacted with 'What about Hamas?'

Chappelle's comments led to some people in the crowd getting up and leaving his show.

Near the end of his performance, he said two wrongs don't make a right in reference to the Hamas attacks and Israel's response.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12657917/Dave-Chappelle-Boston-Israel-Hamas-walkout.html

[marybourg]

1. "Two wrongs don't make a right" is a playground platitude. Pretty irrelevant and irresponsible

after a brutal and vicious attack, killing 1500 and kidnapping and abusing 200 more.

[jaxexpat]

29. It's also a basic truth. One of those that hold civilization to a standard.

We need recognizable standards. We require them. Without them, we lose sight of what defines civilization and begin to believe radical conservatism is normal.

[NotVeryImportant]

36. What's the right response then?

[marybourg]

42. Taking out the terrorists.

[RockRaven]

2. If the summary is to be believed, criticizing the infliction of death and suffering

in chronological order of the parties doing so is not acceptable to anyone because everyone is unwilling to hear some portion of that.

What a great timeline we are living in.

[Arthur_Frain]

26. Zero interest in any artist getting up on a soapbox to tell me anything.

Least of all when I paid for the ticket to see a comedy show or a concert.

I walked out of a Nancy Griffith show when she passed the microphone to some asshat associated with one of her pet causes.

[mopinko]

32. if u bought a ticket to chapelle and didnt expect a soap box, that's on u.

[Arthur_Frain]

34. Didn't.

Probably wouldn’t.

Why anybody would want a polemic showing up at a concert (comedy or music) is beyond me. That was my point.

[usonian]

3. Some comedians believe in offending everyone.

One said "If I offend you, tell your friends."

100 imaginary points if anyone knows who. No, not Rodney Dangerfield.

[jaxexpat]

30. Dave Chappelle. Where can I cash in my points?

[usonian]

35. I don't know if he said that, but it's likely

Belle Barth. In the 50's I guess.

Radio and TV were really censored like crazy, no cable, so there were comedy records for the naughty stuff. My uncle worked at a radio station and had a giant record collection.

But you are welcome to imaginary points. Put them in a plastic bottle and a recycling center will give you 5 cents.

In case it's closed on Sunday, here's a webcam photo of Half Dome (sort of) as an alternate prize.



I'd post the live link, but it's REALLY live, so it goes very dark at night.

[jaxexpat]

43. Meanwhile, thanks for all the fish.

[stopdiggin]

4. Dave Chappelle is a bit of a moron - so you have to start out with that

And if you're buying tickets to Dave Chappelle show - etc. etc. Chances are you not a real touchy feely, thin skinned type to begin with. And with all that - it doesn't sound like people were just streaming out of the venue at any rate.

It was a stupid thing for a performer to do. But, again - this man is known to be a major knucklehead ..

[H2O Man]

5. I respect Chappelle.

I think he is hilarious. And I think he gives serious thought to social issues.

[CatWoman]

7. thank you

It was really hard keeping my mouth/fingers shut

[H2O Man]

20. Sure thing!

And thank you for your response. I read through some others (below), but they appear to be about someone other than David. Hey, he was hanging out a while back with Sean Lennon and my nephew, in a place in NYC that Sean had given my nephew. There was another guy there, Chris Rock.

[vercetti2021]

8. You respect a TERF?

He overwhelmingly supports anti trans measures. He stated he is openly a TERF.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

9. he is very trans phobic

[elias7]

12. I don't like the term TERF

I find it overly simplistic and pejorative. For women including feminists who have spent a lifetime trying to carve out a safe space, a women-only space; for those who have suffered trauma at the hands of a man and are traumatized for life — I feel there is room for their POV when it comes to trans women and NBs who may identify as female but still present quite male entering that space.

Who are we to tell victims of sexual trauma that they are wrong and bad people for being triggered. Why is the debate so black and white for the most vocal?

I think Chappelle’s major gripe with transgender community is their pretty harsh methods (I.e. cancel culture) as a leverage tool, gaining the group a traction that has leapfrogged their social legitimacy in a way that black people can only dream of.

[vercetti2021]

13. Understand this

Once a man transitions to a woman. They are no longer a man...they are woman. Also it sucks that they were traumatized. But transwomen are not a fault for what men do. TERF is shit they labeled themselves as and they are proud of it. Women and transwomen are now fighting the same battles of losing rights.

[redqueen]

18. No, the term is not "shit they labeled themselves as". nt

[WhiskeyGrinder]

19. .

For women including feminists who have spent a lifetime trying to carve out a safe space, a women-only space; for those who have suffered trauma at the hands of a man and are traumatized for life

When it comes to bathrooms, their origin wasn't safety; it was social acceptability. As women became more mobile but were still frowned upon when eating or resting along while in transit, businesses found it useful to provide services for them.

— I feel there is room for their POV when it comes to trans women and NBs who may identify as female but still present quite male entering that space.

What about a person AFAB who "presents quite male"? And how do you police this? Feelings? Everyone has the right to be safe. But the right to "feel" safe isn't a thing.

Who are we to tell victims of sexual trauma that they are wrong and bad people for being triggered.

No one is wrong or bad if they have certain feelings. What others object to is what they do with their feelings, which is try to exclude people they've never met before simply because they feel like they have something in common with an abusive man. Do women who have been abused by women figure in these exclusionary debates? It's possible I've missed their perspectives.

I think Chappelle’s major gripe with transgender community is their pretty harsh methods (I.e. cancel culture) as a leverage tool, gaining the group a traction that has leapfrogged their social legitimacy in a way that black people can only dream of.

Oppression isn't an Olympic sport and this is really gross.

[Duncan Grant]

22. For another, more inclusive, point of view:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/29/im-credited-with-having-coined-the-acronym-terf-heres-how-it-happened

I'm credited with having coined the word 'Terf'. Here's how it happened
— Viv Smythe

…Intersectional feminism, including trans-inclusion, is receiving unsurprising pushback from those who wish to keep the boundaries they’ve fought for as women’s spaces clear. I can understand this stance, but cannot agree that it justifies exclusion, and stand by what I wrote in 2008 when declaring my blog would not share links to any trans-excluding feminist event:

...I am aware that this decision is likely to affront some trans-exclusionary radical feminists (TERFs), but it must be said: marginalising trans women at actual risk from regularly documented abuse /violence in favour of protecting hypothetical cis women from purely hypothetical abuse/violence from trans women in women-only safe-spaces strikes me as horribly unethical as well as repellently callous.

DG: Here’s DU’s stance: “For your information, our definition of transphobia includes, but is not limited to: Misgendering, deadnaming, or otherwise refusing to recognize a trans person's gender identity; Arguing that trans people are not "real" men or women; Arguing that trans people should not have the same rights as cis people -- for example, the right to use public restrooms or play sports that match their gender identity; Arguing that there is any scientific basis for discriminating against trans people.”

[leftyladyfrommo]

11. I respect him for that. I like him, too.

I don't always agree with him but it's a stand up comedian's job to poke at our inconsistencies.

There is another brilliant black comedian that I love. Josh Johnson.

[vercetti2021]

14. Its one thing to poke fun at people

Its another to constantly stoke the fucking fire of trans hate that's already bad enough.

[H2O Man]

25. Right.

I think he is one of the greatest minds of this era.

[Duncan Grant]

23. For your edification:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/24/entertainment/trans-comics-dave-chappelle-netflix-cec/index.html

… So when she read what Dave Chappelle, a comedian she once admired for his searing social commentary, said about trans women – about their genitalia, their “knuckles and Adam’s apples,” their insistence on being recognized and respected – in his latest Netflix special, she felt disappointed and defeated.

… “I know [Chappelle] says he wasn’t punching down – he’s absolutely punching down,” McBride told CNN. “When you’re just taking this mean position against a minority, no matter who the minority is or who you are, it just comes off as wrong.”

… CNN spoke with four trans comedians about what they think Chappelle got wrong in “The Closer.” Some said they had considered Chappelle a comedy hero. But three of the comedians said that, by targeting trans people – trans women, mostly – and adopting the language of opponents of trans rights, his comedy has mutated into something meaner, more dated and less impactful. (CNN has reached out to a representative for Chappelle and is waiting to hear back.)

… At several points, he referred to trans people as “transgenders,” a term GLAAD advises should not be used in its noun form – only as an adjective. He said he was “on team TERF,” which describes people who identify as feminists, but argue that trans identities are not valid.

[H2O Man]

24. You have misused

the word "edification." This is what can happen when one tried to "inform" someone that they do not know at all, including anything about them. Thanks for your effort, though.

[Duncan Grant]

27. I've just learned so much about you.

This is a great example of intent vs. impact. Thanks for the education.

[H2O Man]

38. You are welcome!

[Duncan Grant]

40. The pleasure was all mine!

[H2O Man]

41. I respectfully disagree.

I have enjoyed no less than 50%.

[mopinko]

33. agree.

he always interests me.
and he is outright hilarious.

[H2O Man]

39. Thanks.

Chappelle is a comic genius, and a fascinating social critic. Some people don't like him. That's fine. Don't watch him. And if anyone ties them down & forces their eyes open, to watch hours and hours of Chappelle in a style similar to Alex (Malcolm McDowell) in "A Clockwork Orange," call the police.

I do get a kick out of those like one person here who thought they could provide "edification" for me. It is not that I haven't read and considered the opinions of those who dislike him or find him offensive. We see those same opinions expressed here on this page. I listen to them, I listen to Chappelle, I listen to others who like Chappelle.

Being a comedian and social critic is an important role when done correctly. Norman Mailer compared it to be a chimney-sweep ....... a dirty job that keeps society from suffocating. There are things that might make people a little uncomfortable. Lenny Bruce and Abbie Hoffman had an edge to them. Like with Chappelle, there aren't gangs leaving their shows and assaulting "others," though both were the target of violence numerous times. You could get arrested -- and knowing you, I'd speculate that you know of at least one person arrested and/or beaten up by policing breaking up a Lenny Bruce show. I'd prefer we don't go back to that.

[Frasier Balzov]

6. Chappelle says he is Muslim.

So one could expect his view of the present hostilities to come from that perspective.

I wonder where the funny supposedly was which he thought he was mining when he went to this topic.

Maybe he was offering relevance in lieu of laughs. He sometimes does that.

[uponit7771]

10. He can be Muslim and his perspective be objectively NOT from a Muslim one

[JI7]

15. How is his perspective not Muslim ? It's similar to most Muslims .

[AkFemDem]

28. I'm a Chappelle fan

I don’t like his commentary here, but he’s not saying it as an elected representative so I’m not so outraged. I just wanted to say though, it is very common for him to break away from overt humor and go into very serious tangents- that usually close with bitter jokes that offend some and make others laugh. I’m totally not surprised to hear he’s done it again.

[DFW]

16. I recuse myself

I have never heard of the guy.

[flying rabbit]

17. What was said in the summary makes sense to me.

I dont know what he said exactly, but this is a complex issue.

[kimbutgar]

21. I still laugh when Chapelle brought elon musk up on stage in SF and everyone booed him!

I was booing real loud the whole time he talked. Chapelle always likes to rile things up.

[Initech]

31. Same!

Fuck both of them. I used to love Chappelle but definitely not lately.

[NotVeryImportant]

37. Criticism is deserved on all those sides.

What seems to be the problem here?

[Snooper9]

44. too many snowflakes in the World

apparently...