Children in Gaza 'developing severe trauma' after 16 days of bombing

[AntivaxHunters]

Sigh.....
This has to end.

[link:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/22/children-in-gaza-developing-severe-trauma-after-16-days-of-bombing]



Children in Gaza are developing severe trauma symptoms alongside the risk of death and injury, according to a Palestinian psychiatrist.

On Sunday, the Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza said 1,750 children had been killed in the 16 days of bombardment by Israeli forces since Hamas’s murderous onslaught on 7 October. That is an average of almost 110 children a day. Thousands more have been injured.

The psychological impact of the war on children was showing, said Fadel Abu Heen, a psychiatrist in Gaza. Children had “started to develop serious trauma symptoms such as convulsions, bed-wetting, fear, aggressive behaviour, nervousness, and not leaving their parents’ sides.”

The “lack of any safe place has created a general sense of fear and horror among the entire population and children are most impacted,” he said.

More at link above

[brooklynite]

1. Perhaps the Gaza Government (Hamas) should do something about that.

[Mossfern]

3. Agreed

To start off, how about not firing rockets at Israel ( those kids are traumatized as well) sending suicide bombers (in the past) or sending terrorists to torture and kill children up close and personal.

Sorry, my own personal "but, what about."

[AntivaxHunters]

11. Or both sides stop being dinguses

Israel did this.
Hamas did this.

[TexasDem69]

30. I don't understand your posts

There are no circles. Hamas burned and beheaded women and children, and you seem to think that Israel is either at fault or acting inappropriately because they are attempting to prevent future attacks on their citizens.

[AntivaxHunters]

36. It's been an endless circle for 75 years

We can talk about the recent events with Hamas but that does not touch on anything in the past or currently happening in the West Bank.

[Hekate]

41. Bothsiderism is so fun

For some

[Cha]

48. Fetterman "Now is not the time to talk about a ceasefire. We must support Israel in efforts to eliminate the Hamas.."

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Jon Fetterman putting the Atrocity Blame Where it Belongs. HAMAS

[SickOfTheOnePct]

53. He gets it n/t

[Cha]

58. Yeah, and he's brave to do so.

[Hekate]

54. Thanks, Cha

It’s been a nightmare here for 2+ weeks

[Cha]

55. Yes it has.. and Fetterman is the exact oppossit of Tlaib..

who is still pushing that "Israel bombed the hospital" Unless she's Deleted and apologized for that tweet by now?

[womanofthehills]

78. Fetterman ex staff feel betrayed

group of former campaign staffers for Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pennsylvania) is calling for the lawmaker, who presented himself as a progressive on the campaign trail, to reverse course on his call for violence against Palestinians in Gaza last week.

As first reported by The Intercept, 16 former campaign staffers have anonymously signed an open letter calling on Fetterman to change his stance on Israel’s war, demanding a ceasefire and de-escalation, and condemning his staunch support of Israel as it has forcibly displaced 1.4 million Gazans and rained thousands of bombs down on the area. https://truthout.org/articles/former-staffers-call-out-fetterman-over-his-support-for-israels-war-on-gaza/

[Cha]

81. So?.. Sen Fetterman is standing up for what

he Believes.. you have a problem with him doing that?

I don't. Sen Fetterman is a US Democratic Senator and I applaud him for speaking his mind. with Truth.

The exactly opposite of Rep Tlaib tweeting that Israel was responsible for the bomb on the hospital and NOT Deleting it or apologizing for believing Hams and was proven WRONG.

Link to tweet

She never condemned Hamas for Massacring Jewish babies, children, men and women, either.

[tritsofme]

88. Too bad he hired Hamas sympathizers. We all make mistakes.

I certainly don’t fault the great Democratic senator from Pennsylvania

Sounds like they are gone now, so all the better.

[Dorian Gray]

97. He has moral clarity

Hamas not only intentionally targeted and performed atrocities toward the Israelis, they are responsible for continuing the tensions and actions that are harming their own Palestinian civilians.

They are not interested in governing. Their only purpose is perpetuating the war against Israel.

Hamas needs to go.

[womanofthehills]

79. Obama just wrote this on Twitter

It’s long so read the whole thing. Such a wise man. 💕


“Still, the world is watching closely as events in the region unfold, and any Israeli military strategy that ignores the human costs could ultimately backfire. Already, thousands of Palestinians have been killed in the bombing of Gaza, many of them children. Hundreds of thousands have been forced from their homes. The Israeli government’s decision to cut off food, water and electricity to a captive civilian population threatens not only to worsen a growing humanitarian crisis; it could further harden Palestinian attitudes for generations, erode global support for Israel, play into the hands of Israel’s enemies, and undermine long term efforts to achieve peace and stability in the region.”

https://barackobama.medium.com/my-statement-on-israel-and-gaza-a6c397f09a30

[AZSkiffyGeek]

76. It's the latest version of "All Lives Matter!"

And just as transparent.

[Dorian Gray]

95. "Both sides are dinguses"

"Children in Palestine have PTSD"

Your concern about "both sides" only comes out when the horrific actions of Hamas are pointed out to you.

[Dorian Gray]

96. "Both sides are dinguses"

"Children in Palestine have PTSD"

Your concern about "both sides" only comes out when the horrific actions of Hamas are pointed out to you.

[AntivaxHunters]

4. How about both sides quit being stupid?

That seems like a pretty logical choice

[Think. Again.]

8. Or any other...

...human who cares about the traumatization and killing of innocent children.

[Big Blue Marble]

28. Your :"compassion" is noted.

If you are not able to express grief for these children, it might be advisable to
just ignore the thread. There is a button for that.

[brooklynite]

46. My comment stands...

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Whenever someone says "think of the children",, they leave out an implied "Israel should do something about that". They never mention that Hamas started this crisis (and certainly didn't "think of the children" ) and can end it just as quickly.

[Big Blue Marble]

57. The article is describing what is happening to children in.a war zone

As more children are killed and maimed, more and more people will respond
to their crisis and their pain.

[oldsoftie]

73. Put in a war zone by their own people; intentionally.

Start with THEM.
And maybe ask why none of the Arab countries say a WORD about them. Or are wiling to do ANYTHING to get rid of them
Instead, Israel is supposed to simply do nothing because "children are there". Which invites MORE slaughter of civilians by Hamas because they'll know hiding behind children will let them operate freely.
This is the REALITY.

[AntivaxHunters]

74. Let's look at this rationally rather than emotionally

And one side is taking A LOT MORE harm than the other.

Now does that mean I'm defending Hamas? No of course not & that's a very dangerous thing to believe when we associate someone who is simply stating facts with "oh, you're on their side!" It's an irrational & illogical thought process. In psychology that's what's called an "attribution error".

It seems quite a few discount what's been happening for years because they're hyperfocusing on 1 single event. It's important to remember that Hamas attacked for revenge of previous events that took place. Of course that doesn't excuse what they did but we need to look at the whole problem. Both sides are guilty. Both. And innocent people on both sides are paying a heavy price for it - their lives.

[Dorian Gray]

98. I'm very rational when I say

that Hamas should release every single hostage RIGHT NOW.

That is their best chance at a cease fire.

[oldsoftie]

31. How bout the Arab nations collaborate to get rid of Hamas?

Why do we never hear a word about Hamas from ANY of them?

[EllieBC]

44. Shhh we don't talk about that.

You know that. We never ask why any Arab nation stays silent. It’s never their problem.

[Act_of_Reparation]

69. What an astonishing dearth of empathy.

[tritsofme]

89. Definitely agreed. Hamas choosing to sacrifice women and children to cling to power in Gaza is absolutely disgusting.

[womanofthehills]

80. Gaza can't do much now that they have been bombed for 2 weeks

With more bombs dropped in Gaza than a year in in Afganistan. This is backfiring big time on Israel and the US . If the US keeps backing this, we will lose the election as now latest polls say only 20% of those under 40 support this horrific bombing. Thousands are matching in the streets of LA, NY, Chicago chanting- “Biden, Biden - you can’t hide…..”. This is not good for the next election. We will lose the youth vote.

Suprise suprise - the largest support for bombing Gaza is in those over 65. The young want to live and not have WW3 - Russia & China are already doing joint military operations in Alaska and they side with Iran.

[Dorian Gray]

93. Right.

If Hamas released all their hostages, including traumatized children, then the bombing would stop.

[LiberaBlueDem]

2. Inhumane

These kids have ZERO responsibility for Hamas

But they are paying the price. Ceasefire NOW!

[AntivaxHunters]

5. Exactly

[SickOfTheOnePct]

7. Is the trauma Israeli children

Suffering also inhumane to you?

[Think. Again.]

10. And traumatizing more children...

..helps them in some way?

What's that old saying?

"An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind"

[EllieBC]

25. Wow can't even answer that can you?

It was a simple question. You were asked about the Israeli children.

Are you capable of answering without anything extra?

[Think. Again.]

40. Wow... My apologies...

...I honestly thought that was a rhetorical question with no need for the obvious answer which is

Yes, Absolutely, Without a doubt I firmly believe the suffering and death of the Isreali children is very, very inhumane. Also.

[Bok_Tukalo]

104. It's like TheOnion

"Dying Gazans Criticized For Not Using Last Words To Condemn Hamas"

https://www.theonion.com/dying-gazans-criticized-for-not-using-last-words-to-con-1850925657?utm_campaign=TheOnion&utm_content=1697223994&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=twitter

[AntivaxHunters]

14. Absolutely

Nut one side is beating the brunt of this.

No child should be harmed. None.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

20. Just wondering

Because you don’t post anything Israeli suffering

[AntivaxHunters]

56. Has there been much that's happened since Oct 7?

Well has there?

What's the child death toll on the Israeli side since October 7?

[SickOfTheOnePct]

59. Got it

The suffering of 7 Oct isn’t enough.

Good to know.

[AntivaxHunters]

60. Answer my question please

What's the death toll count of dead children please since October 7 on both sides?

Let's be honest here.
We both know that figure is incredibly lopsided. You asked why I don't post anything about Israeli's suffering. Because there's not been much of anything to report on for weeks. If there is I'll report it.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

61. Like I said

7 Oct wasn’t enough suffering.

It’s obvious where you and your group of 30 doctor’s (sic) sit on this - 7 Oct was more than two weeks ago, and Israel needs to just get over it.
I wouldn’t count on that if I were you.

Hamas brought this suffering to the Palestinians, and they could end it if they wanted to.

[AntivaxHunters]

66. Personal insults? Really?

You know what, just forget it.
I typed out a gigantic response to you but it's not worth my time. We're not going to agree at all I'm not going to round & round with you.

Have a good night ❤️

[SickOfTheOnePct]

67. What personal insult?

Just reading from your profile, as you told someone earlier they should do.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

68. How profound n/t

[Cha]

70. That's the BIG Problem.. Hamas Doesn't want Peace and they

don't want to Protect the Palestinian Children.. they want to Kill more Jewish Children.

[Dorian Gray]

99. There are still children

being held captive in Gaza.

And Hamas is still sending missiles into Israel.

So yes, there is still stuff happening.

You're just not interested in learning about it.

[Think. Again.]

35. Yes, Absolutely, Without a doubt.

[Cha]

49. Fetterrman puts the Blame Squarely on HAMAS..

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[treestar]

83. Well yes

Of course.

[brooklynite]

6. Israeli kids have zero responsibility for Netanyahu.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

9. Palestinian children

Are the responsibility of Hamas. Hamas could end this now by returning the hostages and surrendering to Israel.

[Think. Again.]

12. Children are the responsibility of all adults...

...hamas is terribly mistreating both Ireali and Palestinian children, that does not allow anyone else to join in on that.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

17. Sorry

But I disagree.

I don’t know a single parent, myself included, who if given the awful choice of saving our own child or saving someone else’s, wouldn’t save our own child.

YMMV

[Think. Again.]

32. That's a twisted analogy...

...disregarding the lives of Palestinian children will not secure the safety of Isreali children.

I'm curious, what does ymmv mean?

[SickOfTheOnePct]

34. Your Mileage May Vary

And I don’t agree that it’s an invalid analogy. Because of the way Hamas uses civilians as human shields, it’s inevitable that children and other innocents will die.

So long as Hamas is able to threaten Israel, every Israeli child - and adult - is in danger.

Israel, like every other country in the world, will do what it needs to do to protect its own. They have an obligation to do so.

[Think. Again.]

42. Okay then...

...I really don't have anything more to say.

[AntivaxHunters]

15. Ceasefire now

[lapfog_1]

18. what's after the ceasefire?

and is that a one sided ceasefire by Israel or are you calling on Hamas to stop firing rockets, sending death squads to kill civilians with guns and grenades?

And what should happen to the instigators of this, the Hamas "resistance"? Nothing? Murderers go free?

And the open air prison that is Gaza, what should happen to that place? Rebuild it to pre Oct 7?

I don't have answers, but the questions hang in the air like a gathering storm.

[EllieBC]

26. What's your plan for restraining Hamas?

Or do you not have one?

[GuppyGal]

33. The plan is ceasefire now! And that apparently is enough.

[EllieBC]

37. Sounds like the plan made by

The Underpants Gnomes from South Park.

[AntivaxHunters]

38. Popcorn 🍿?

[AZSkiffyGeek]

77. Don't forget to sing "Imagine" as well

I think that's part of it as well.

[AntivaxHunters]

39. What's your plan to restrain

the IDF do it quits doing headshots to innocent little kids as it's done for years?

How about your plan to stop bulldozing homes?

[EllieBC]

43. Seeing as though Hamas started this round

and you have a vested interest in defending them, along with shrieking “ceasefire now”, I thought maybe you’d have a plan for Hamas.

Not shockingly, you don’t.

[Cha]

50. So your question gets a Deflection.. Shocking.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Fetterman puts the blame for this on HAMAS.

[TomDaisy]

64. +1

[oldsoftie]

27. Hamas puts themselves among civilians. Their HQ is in a hospital.

Put the blame where it belongs

[Cha]

51. Sen Feterman does..

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[oldsoftie]

72. No lies in any of those statements. But yet here we still see the "both side"ers

No. If Hamas is disposed of, conditions will improve for Palestinians. Its not israels fault that they were elected. Yes, Hamas hasnt allowed any elections to possibly replace them, but thats where the Arab nations come in
If they cared.

[TexasDem69]

84. Are you proposing that Israel should just stand down?

And accept the next attack on their citizens, and the next, and the next, and do nothing to prevent future attacks? Because that’s what it sounds like. Hamas terrorists murdered over 1,000 Israeli citizens, in their cribs and beds and kitchens.

[Mosby]

13. I don't think it will end until all the hostages are released.

Nt

[AntivaxHunters]

16. I honestly don't believe that will end it

[SickOfTheOnePct]

19. Unless Hamas surrenders

It shouldn’t end.

[AntivaxHunters]

21. Ra ra more killing! Whoo hoo!

[SickOfTheOnePct]

22. Every country

Has a right to defend themselves.

Even Israel.

[AntivaxHunters]

23. No country has a right

To kill 1000s of innocent little kids.
We're far beyond payback at this point.

[BlueCheeseAgain]

24. It's not about payback.

It's about destroying Hamas. If Israel could destroy Hamas without harming a single Palestinian civilian, it would. Unlike Hamas, it isn't motivated by a desire to kill people for being who they are.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

29. It's not about payback

But of course, you already know that.

[TexasDem69]

47. You think Israel is attacking Gaza

For payback?

[Cha]

52. Israel wants the GD Terrorists DEAD SO They Won't KILL AGAIn!!

Link to tweet

[TexasDem69]

85. Yet you excuse Hamas' murder of hundreds

Of Israeli children and thousands of Israeli citizens.

[tritsofme]

90. The insistence that this is about " payback" is either incredibly naive, or purposefully obtuse.

[Dorian Gray]

101. I'm pretty confident that it's

purposefully obtuse.

[sheshe2]

62. This meme is totally inappropriate for this thread.

Men, women and children are dying and no one is cheering! No one.

[Dorian Gray]

100. When Hamas butchered over 1000+ Israelis

did you send out cheerleader anime pictures, too?

What the absolute fuck?

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

45. "...the Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza said..."

Yea, whatever numbers follow that is bullshit. Undoubtedly children are among the dead and injured but there is zero reason to believe anything that a Hamas run group says.

[TomDaisy]

63. K&R

[Bayard]

65. 16 days......

Imagine how Ukrainian children feel.

[disablegamer]

71. The bloodthirsty revenge against children scares me

I'm actually scared at what I'm seeing in this thread. People are so blood thirsty for revenge. They are children have some empathy. The Children are not Hamas.

[AntivaxHunters]

75. Me too..... it's sad

[Patton French]

86. Now you're accusing the IDF of avoiding military targets

And intentionally targeting children instead in an act of bloodthirsty revenge? Are you sure you’re not talking about Hamas?

[disablegamer]

87. Learn some empathy

Don't care what religion a person is or where they were born. We all bleed red. We all were children at one time.

[tritsofme]

91. Exactly, it's disgusting that Hamas uses children as human shields.

[AntivaxHunters]

103. It is

And it's disgusting that Israel has been bombing hospitals for years.

[Hekate]

82. You might want to read this article about verified torture of Israelis by Hamas...

Or maybe you don’t want to read any such thing. But here’s the DU link and jpost link for those who do.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218394215

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-769339


Excerpt:
During the initial press conference, the forensics team showed images from their investigations. Among the images were those of charred hands with marks that revealed where the victims’ hands were bound behind their backs with metal wire before being burned alive.

Perhaps the most disturbing image in the slideshow was a completely charred mass of flesh, which at first glance could not be seen as ever having belonged to a human. It was only after a CT scan was done that experts could see the inhumanity of the image.

Two spinal cords—one belonging to an adult, one to someone young—a parent and child bound together by metal wires in a final embrace before being set alight.

[tritsofme]

92. No no, don't you understand? They were just anti-Zionists.

[Dorian Gray]

94. Hamas should release all the hostages

That would be a start to the ending of the bombing.

I have sympathy for those children; they are innocent. (As were the people targeted by Hamas in the first place.).

[agingdem]

102. well, maybe the Palestinians should have worried about

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their children when they allowed Hamas to control their government, live among them, use their children as human shields...and maybe the Palestinians should have thought about their children when they allowed Hamas to stockpile weapons in their homes, schools, hospitals, and mosques...

for 75 years the children of Israel have lived with air raids/bomb shelters because Arab nations do not recognize Israels right to exist...and for 75 years every Jewish Israeli child has grown up with the knowledge that they, like their parents before them, will fight and die for that right to exist..